RurouniZel
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Ace Attorney 5: Dual Destinies |OT| Rated M For Objectionable Content
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Professor Beef
Banned
Looks great!
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Thank you!
your secret family suuuuuuuuucks, polly, stick with your adopted family
... that is all kinds of awesome, actually. XD
Red Arremer
Member
I kinda like Blackquill only for his bird. I dunno, he himself's okay, but I'm not really warming up to him for now (first trial day of case 3, btw).
Also not liking most of the witnesses so far, except for Jinxie, Scuttlebutt and Robin.
Only new characters I enjoy thoroughly are Fulbright and Athena.
Also not liking most of the witnesses so far, except for Jinxie, Scuttlebutt and Robin.
Only new characters I enjoy thoroughly are Fulbright and Athena.
Yeah, Fulbright's one of the better new characters. Hope he's in the eventual AA6.
No one knows. It should be out before the end of the year.
I'm sure you'll come to like him by the end of the game. "In justice we trust!"
I'm hopeful for this week, because they said they'd have news soon week before last, but we'll see. It could be that the 'news' is that it's coming at the end of the month or something like that.
I loved him. His relationship with whole cast was great and by the end, I really started to feel for the guy. I hope he comes back as the main Detective for AA6.
Fulbright is great. I've said as much before, but it's better if you don't try to think of him as Gumshoe or even as Ema. He's pretty clearly reactionary in terms of the roles they occupied, contrasting pretty clearly from their fairly glum or bitter attitudes towards their jobs. Dude loves every second of his job.
Oh wow, never even looked at it that way.
Then again, I'm not sure I remember Gumshoe particularly disliking his job, but being pretty down about the fact that he was supposedly poor as hell.
Good point. His energetic personality really contrasts well with the entire "Dark Age of the Law" theme. Heck, even his white outfit differentiates with the theme as well, like he's a "shining" glimmer justice in these dark times.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
2 -> DLC -> 3 -> first part of 4 -> 1 -> rest of 4 -> 5
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
2 -> DLC Case -> 3 -> Start of Case 4 -> Case 1 -> End of Case 4 -> Case 5
Edit: Beaten like a redheaded stepchild.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Just finished it.
Can't wipe the grin off my face.
Fucking bravo, bra-vo. So GOOD!
3 > 1 >/= 5 > 4 > AAI >2
Glad you liked it dude! It really was great!
Chrono Helix
Member
your secret family suuuuuuuuucks, polly, stick with your adopted family
Uh, that's not Apollo's Japanese name on the left. A cousin of his?
Completed Case 2, it was quite good! Case 3 also looks promising!
I actually really like that we had a case with Athena/ Phoenix, then Apollo and now a little bit of Athena again, that's quite the development, I appreciate it! Can't wait to see Athena being the main character for AA6!
Magnet_Man
Member
That's what his name would've been if he grew up with the Arumajiki family with Yuumi, but his new family, whoever the crap they are, named him Odoroki. The picture's basically a "what-if" situation where Apollo was planned to be a magician lawyer before they changed it to what we have today.
We dodged a serious bullet.
Red Arremer
Member
Ponco is so adorable aaaaaahhhhh.
AwakenedCloud
Member
Just got done with the game, and boy was the final case a roller coaster ride. It more than makes up for the blandness of case 4.
It's hard for me to rate this game in respect to the rest of the series. As far as story and animations go, it's definitely near the top. The actual gameplay, however, leaves much to be desired in my minds.
1. The streamlining of the investigation phases killed that part of the game for me. Almost every step of the way, the game tells you exactly what to do in order to progress the plot. As much as I love that game, I can finally relate to the people who were upset over Final Fantasy XIII feeling like a linear corridor. Investigations were one conversation after another, and to be frank, the comedy of the translation seemed lackluster to me when compared to the original 3 games. Not being able to examine on free-will and being automatically redirected to the next location obviously streamlines things as well. I'm sure it has been discussed 100 other times in this topic so I'll leave it at that. With the other games in the series, it never felt like I wasn't playing a game. I know some fans were happy about this change as they disliked the investigation phases anyway, but this irked me more than anything else.
2. The removal of variable punishments and the ability to present people as evidence removes a lot of the challenge and stress of the trial phases. Variable punishments encourage a think-before-you-leap methodology, encouraging the player to really weigh all of their evidence before presenting it in a crucial situation. It also makes more sense with Wright's high-risk/high-reward bluffing methodology. Being unable to present profiles limits the amount of contradictions the player can point out in half. By allowing the player to present either evidence or a profile, you make them parse the testimony twice as carefully, as they need to infer what type of contradiction it holds.
3. To add on to point 2, the court sections of this game are just too easy and the game hints waaaay too heavily about what you should present and where to present it. Going to the end of a witness' statements and listening to the summary would literally tell you which piece of evidece to present or what point to press more often than not. They don't even penalize you out of court or during the analytical psychology sections!
4. Some pieces of evidence were just too predictable. In specific, I had pieced together the final 2 pieces of evidence in case 5 upon reciving them. Maybe I'm a bit faster on the uptake now, but that very rarely if-ever happened to me in the old games. The villains were also way too predictable.
Overall, I still AA5 is one of the better games in the series. Despite the myriad of problems I had with it, it managed to stay entertaining from start to finish. If they kept it more like a game than a visual novel, it probably would've been my favortite.
3=1>5=AAI2(Based off of first 2 cases)>2>4>AAI
It's hard for me to rate this game in respect to the rest of the series. As far as story and animations go, it's definitely near the top. The actual gameplay, however, leaves much to be desired in my minds.
1. The streamlining of the investigation phases killed that part of the game for me. Almost every step of the way, the game tells you exactly what to do in order to progress the plot. As much as I love that game, I can finally relate to the people who were upset over Final Fantasy XIII feeling like a linear corridor. Investigations were one conversation after another, and to be frank, the comedy of the translation seemed lackluster to me when compared to the original 3 games. Not being able to examine on free-will and being automatically redirected to the next location obviously streamlines things as well. I'm sure it has been discussed 100 other times in this topic so I'll leave it at that. With the other games in the series, it never felt like I wasn't playing a game. I know some fans were happy about this change as they disliked the investigation phases anyway, but this irked me more than anything else.
2. The removal of variable punishments and the ability to present people as evidence removes a lot of the challenge and stress of the trial phases. Variable punishments encourage a think-before-you-leap methodology, encouraging the player to really weigh all of their evidence before presenting it in a crucial situation. It also makes more sense with Wright's high-risk/high-reward bluffing methodology. Being unable to present profiles limits the amount of contradictions the player can point out in half. By allowing the player to present either evidence or a profile, you make them parse the testimony twice as carefully, as they need to infer what type of contradiction it holds.
3. To add on to point 2, the court sections of this game are just too easy and the game hints waaaay too heavily about what you should present and where to present it. Going to the end of a witness' statements and listening to the summary would literally tell you which piece of evidece to present or what point to press more often than not. They don't even penalize you out of court or during the analytical psychology sections!
4. Some pieces of evidence were just too predictable. In specific, I had pieced together the final 2 pieces of evidence in case 5 upon reciving them. Maybe I'm a bit faster on the uptake now, but that very rarely if-ever happened to me in the old games. The villains were also way too predictable.
The first 2 cases had killer in the intro, and 3rd case it was obvious within 5 minutes of the case starting due to context.
Overall, I still AA5 is one of the better games in the series. Despite the myriad of problems I had with it, it managed to stay entertaining from start to finish. If they kept it more like a game than a visual novel, it probably would've been my favortite.
3=1>5=AAI2(Based off of first 2 cases)>2>4>AAI
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I hear ya on this one. I wasn't sure if the game was genuinely easier, or if just felt easier because I'd gone to law school between AAI and AA5, but a lot of the objections seemed a lot more obvious in this game than previous entries.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I just started case 4, I assume I'm in for a ride.
Case 3 was great btw, really made me forget how awful and boring the 2nd one was.
Case 3 was great btw, really made me forget how awful and boring the 2nd one was.
2. For what it's worth, the only games (localized, anyway; I don't know about Investigations 2) where you could present profiles during the trial segments were 2 and 3. So not being able to present profiles has been more the norm than the exception. Your complain is still valid enough if you prefer it that way, just saying that it shouldn't really be a surprise that that was the case. What I DID find strange was that they removed evidence examination entirely from this game, except for one or two story-directed segments.
3. Considering you can save the game and resume it at any point, having the penalty system in place at all is functionally useless. Especially in a story and reading-heavy game like this, forcing you to go back and present solutions that you'd already gotten correct amounts to quite a waste of time. Rather than adding even more penalties, I'd rather they just do away with them altogether, that way I can select wrong answers to see the fun dialogue that occurs without having to restart the game every five minutes.
With the way they changed the evidence, investigations, Apollo's perception, and other such things, it seems that the designers made a concerted effort to really streamline the game as a whole and put the focus on the storylines themselves. I don't think that's necessarily for the best in all respects, but I understand why they thought to try doing it that way.
I have to agree with this. The penalties are rather pointless if I can save right before presenting a piece of evidence & just reload the game if I guessed wrong (heck, that's what I've done). I'll always have full "health" if I just keep reloading to the spot right before where I just guessed.
Just finished Case 2. It was okay, but I had one of those "Oh COME ON it's still going on?" moments, though thankfully, it was right before the final part so it didn't last very long. Hopefully will start Case 3 later this week once I'm done with some college exams.
AwakenedCloud
Member
I almost brought this point up in my original point because I thought I'd be called out on it. Yes, it's true that you can save at anytime, but I see that of the game's way of auto-saving. Other games allow you to save anywhere to alleviate the stress about having to redo things. I like to treat the game like Demons' Souls where a punishment can't be undone. It makes me really think about presenting evidence I'm unsure of. The other way allows me to press until I get it right.
From the OP:
Perhaps playing just AA4 before AA5 would be sufficient since a lot about AA5 plays on the player's knowledge of the previous game, but not playing any of the previous games before AA5 could in no way be considered "good."
They're all good anyways, so there should be no rush to getting AA5 instead of the others. You won't miss any significant plot points by going into AA5 first, though.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
There are several important instances of callbacks to previous games.
AA is a game series relying heavily on story/characters to deliver its best experience, so I would heavily recommend you go through the original 4 games first if it's possible.
If not, well, it's fine if you make this your first AA experience, though once again, I would heavily recommend you played through all the previous games first.
Anyways,
Heavily surprised by the revelation in Case 5, but heavily disappointed as well in how... impact-less, the character in the end turned to be.
My ranking:
AA3 = AA1 > AA2 > AA5 >>> AA4 > AAI.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Finished Case 4
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
finished case 4 and the ending is strong, but the whole case isn't that interesting. so far case 3 has been the best one. i'm hoping case 5 lives up to the hype, and not just among fans, but from the game itself.
and there's something about just playing as phoenix wright that feels so good. he's the perfect kind of underdog. athena is actually a close second, for me. apollo is just some loud guy.
and there's something about just playing as phoenix wright that feels so good. he's the perfect kind of underdog. athena is actually a close second, for me. apollo is just some loud guy.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Finished Investigation of Case 5 Day 1
My god, I need to sleep but I screamed when
Apollo IS FINE
My god, I need to sleep but I screamed when
The Black Psyche-Lock appeared, and cried with the stupid Maya letter... holy shit this fucking game
Apollo IS FINE
BassForever
Member
Apollo is still the worst of the main trio, but he's improved a lot in this game.