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Ace Attorney 5: Dual Destinies |OT| Rated M For Objectionable Content
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timetokill
Banned
So hey guys,
I've played the mainline AA games (1-3, Apollo) and I actually just bought new copies of the first 3 because I'd only played friends copies before. I'm doing a re-runthrough of these four games again in preparation for AA5. I downed AA1 over a couple days and I'm on the third case of AA2 now.
Big question: Do I need to play Investigations before AA5? It's the only one I don't have a copy of, and I was holding off because I heard it wasn't very good.
I've played the mainline AA games (1-3, Apollo) and I actually just bought new copies of the first 3 because I'd only played friends copies before. I'm doing a re-runthrough of these four games again in preparation for AA5. I downed AA1 over a couple days and I'm on the third case of AA2 now.
Big question: Do I need to play Investigations before AA5? It's the only one I don't have a copy of, and I was holding off because I heard it wasn't very good.
Simply put: no, Investigations isn't at all required for AA5. The AAI games have the least presence of any of the series in AA5, I'd say.
There are a few thematic beats from AAI2 that I can see echoed in AA5, but seriously nothing required.
AwakenedCloud
Member
Everybody loves AA2 case 4, but I really don't get what's special about it. Just finished my 3rd playthrough of the game last week, and while that case was better than I remember it just doesn't have the suspense or twists that separates the good cases from the great ones. The 'real villain' can be seen from a mile away, and the 'impending threat' presented to you is irrelevant as the person whom it is imposed on has the 2nd biggest plot-shield next to Wright himself. The only standout thing about the case is the
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My order for AA2 is 2 >>> 4 >=3 > 1
Case 2 is probably my favorite case in the entire series.
For overall series ranking: 3 = 1 > 2 > 4 >> AAI
Return of Edgeworth
My order for AA2 is 2 >>> 4 >=3 > 1
Case 2 is probably my favorite case in the entire series.
For overall series ranking: 3 = 1 > 2 > 4 >> AAI
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Got my funds ready too! All I need now is time to sit down and play the game!
Edit: I bought my 3DS almost a year ago for anticipation of this game as well!
Edit: I bought my 3DS almost a year ago for anticipation of this game as well!
Mockingbird
Member
Oh crap! This is next week! Awesome!!!!
Crash Station
Member
That's exactly why I didn't like it. Cases were always pretty distinct with some minor connections, but out of 5, 3 were directly connected to create a sort of story arc which I felt dragged on. I like how it ended, but I didn't like how it was paced.
timetokill
Banned
I work in a law office now, mostly because of Phoenix Wright.
Metal_Man, you didn't like AAI and think AA5 has greatly improved on that team's writing? That makes me really happy.
Laurentius
Member
It's been so long since I played it, that I have a hard time remembering exactly why I liked it so much. I just remember it being the most physically suspenseful case for me, as
you know that Maya's life depends directly and immediately on what's happening in the case. Top that off with the Dual Takedown with Edgeworth, and it was just so much fun for me. It also the first that actually explored the issue a bit of defending someone who ISN'T innocent.
I only ever played it once, so perhaps it doesn't stand up to future playthroughs. I just loved it a lot my first time through.
Spieler Eins
Member
I didn't really wanna go with digital only, but with the lowered price in EU and the amazing demo I'll bite. Though I'm afraid to have a game of the ,,quality'' of AA4 at the end of the day and no options to get my money back...
The production values and care that went into it seem amazing, although with some underwhelming story and characters like in AJ they won't get anywhere in this genre. But with what I've seen for now it might as well become the first great game in the series since AA1.
3 could have had an amazing ending but was ultimately ruined by the
finale. Easily the worst parts of the entire series since the begining, but I couldn't take it anymore in 3. So cringeworthy when it completely took over. Would have been perfect without it though.
Also, JFA was good because of the circus chapter. Probably the only standalone one I can remember from all games. No idea what the fuss is about at chapter 4 though...
The production values and care that went into it seem amazing, although with some underwhelming story and characters like in AJ they won't get anywhere in this genre. But with what I've seen for now it might as well become the first great game in the series since AA1.
3 could have had an amazing ending but was ultimately ruined by the
ghostbusters
Also, JFA was good because of the circus chapter. Probably the only standalone one I can remember from all games. No idea what the fuss is about at chapter 4 though...
I think they're all amazing (minor spoilers abound).
AA1 started it all, with some solid cases and a breathtaking finale. Right out of the gate they established the ambivalent relationship between defence and prosecution which is probably the central motif of the series.
AA2 gave us Franzi and, again, a thrilling ending. I thought the circus case was quite alright, actually (everyone seems to hate that one).
AA3 showed young Phoenix, we got Godot's theme and probably the most cinematic final case of all the games, for better or worse.
AA4, first and foremost, had a great atmosphere, I thought, very melancholic. The final case emphasized this the most. The concert case is one of the best in the series, even though Klavier is maybe the weakest prosecutor. Retired Phoenix makes up for that.
AAI features Edgeworth as the protagonist. Really didn't take much more than that for me to love this one as well. The whole mystery surrounding the Great Thief was really well done. The focus on investigation gave us some neat spritework. The biggest tragedy of this gen is that we never got AAI2. No LOGIC in that one, Capcom!
Not to mention the soundtracks (and the orchestral/jazz arrangements) that have been consistently excellent.
AA1 started it all, with some solid cases and a breathtaking finale. Right out of the gate they established the ambivalent relationship between defence and prosecution which is probably the central motif of the series.
AA2 gave us Franzi and, again, a thrilling ending. I thought the circus case was quite alright, actually (everyone seems to hate that one).
AA3 showed young Phoenix, we got Godot's theme and probably the most cinematic final case of all the games, for better or worse.
AA4, first and foremost, had a great atmosphere, I thought, very melancholic. The final case emphasized this the most. The concert case is one of the best in the series, even though Klavier is maybe the weakest prosecutor. Retired Phoenix makes up for that.
AAI features Edgeworth as the protagonist. Really didn't take much more than that for me to love this one as well. The whole mystery surrounding the Great Thief was really well done. The focus on investigation gave us some neat spritework. The biggest tragedy of this gen is that we never got AAI2. No LOGIC in that one, Capcom!
Not to mention the soundtracks (and the orchestral/jazz arrangements) that have been consistently excellent.
Can someone change this so it says "My body is ready, Your Honor."?
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Dude, CANT''T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Next week, this and Blackgate!
Next week, this and Blackgate!
AwakenedCloud
Member
That's the thing though,
I was never able to suspend belief that Maya was in any real danger since she's so crucial to the game
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Just realised a few days ago this was coming so soon!
I started replaying the series, doing a case a day and planning to segue straight into this. Thanks to the 3DS Activity Log I've been tracking how long each case is. I have no idea why but just let me have my fun maaaan
Ace Attorney
Case 1 - 38 minutes
Case 2 - 2 hours 38 minutes
Case 3 - 3 hours 44 minutes
Case 4 - 5 hours 13 minutes
Case 5 - 11 hours 24 minutes
Justice for All
Case 1 - 1 hour 14 minutes
I started replaying the series, doing a case a day and planning to segue straight into this. Thanks to the 3DS Activity Log I've been tracking how long each case is. I have no idea why but just let me have my fun maaaan
Ace Attorney
Case 1 - 38 minutes
Case 2 - 2 hours 38 minutes
Case 3 - 3 hours 44 minutes
Case 4 - 5 hours 13 minutes
Case 5 - 11 hours 24 minutes
Justice for All
Case 1 - 1 hour 14 minutes
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I can see that happening.
Still, that arc along with what happens with that family in AA1 and AA2 meant we got this awesome medley (warning, some AA3 spoilers in the YT comments):
Gyakuten Saiban Orchestral soundtrack - Kurain Geneology
My favorite track on that album.
AA3 spoilers:
I love how it incorporates Dahlia's and Iris' theme in it
Seven Force
Banned
Pretty much my thoughts exactly. It turns most of the norms of the series up to that point on it's head, from
defending someone that's actually guilty, to accusing an innocent witness of murder in a desperate attempt to stall for time; a witness which was severely emotionally damaged, and even had a brief brush with suicide, a theme never really tackled in the series before, and of course, the idea of a prosecutor actually valuing the truth over all else instead of ultimate victory, and of course, the whole kidnapping thing.
It's £20, pretty cheap considering it's digital only.
ColossalLazy
Member
I am buying this day 1. So hyped.
Mostly just realism. And I'd say there's more blood in this game than most of the past ones. It's not excessively gory though.
Dunno. I sure as hell don't have a job because of Phoenix Wright
To my fellow lawyers/law students: what jurisdiction? I'm in Australia.
Laurentius
Member
The spoiler tags in your last two posts have been broken. =)
Anyway, yeah, I could see how the case wouldn't be as good
if you weren't able to suspend disbelief for the Maya episode.
BronsonLee
Member
I bought a 3DS for this game.
Then it was announced as digital only.
If I didn't have the 30$ credit from SMT IV, this wasn't getting touched. That's how bad eShop is. It overcompensates the awesomeness of AA.
You should've just went for the hairdo!
Then it was announced as digital only.
If I didn't have the 30$ credit from SMT IV, this wasn't getting touched. That's how bad eShop is. It overcompensates the awesomeness of AA.
Dunno. I sure as hell don't have a job because of Phoenix Wright
You should've just went for the hairdo!
SlipperySlope
Banned
This is coming to the US? Ooooh shit.
I only played 1-3. I know these are really story based. What other ones do I need to play before I play this?
I only played 1-3. I know these are really story based. What other ones do I need to play before I play this?
Frostinferno
Member
Just Apollo Justice and you're golden.
chickdigger802
Banned
Why Thursday though?
And batman is Friday. Is there something big next Tuesday that everyone is scared of?
And batman is Friday. Is there something big next Tuesday that everyone is scared of?
brickarts295
Member
God that 2DS looks tempting just for this game but ill wait till black friday...if i can.
Frostinferno
Member
FreedomFighter
Member
So I downloaded the demo and haven't played it just yet. I know I'll enjoy this game though. It'll be my FIRST Ace Attorney game.
Do I need to play the others BEFORE playing this though? Is it one continuous story?
Do I need to play the others BEFORE playing this though? Is it one continuous story?
You could theoretically start with this, but you would be missing out on a lot if you don't since it is indeed one continuous story.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It is indeed one continuous story. Highly recommended to play them in order.
brickarts295
Member
All i have to say is that you'll enjoy it a LOT more if you played the past games, it is sort of continuous.
Laurentius
Member
Absolutely perfect.