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Ace Attorney 5: Dual Destinies |OT| Rated M For Objectionable Content
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The Bankslammer
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Alright, all done. God, so good...
Probably the most consistent Ace Attorney to date, imo. It didn't really feel like it ever had "that case" for me. I agree that Case 2 was the low point, but... it was pretty inoffensive to me. I didn't really feel like it dragged all that much.
Still, totally great. Up there with AA3, but I'd still probably have to keep AA3 in the #1 spot because of what great closure it brought for the original 3 games
So I'll just echo 3>5>1>4>2, even if it's not a really interesting ranking, because it seems as though it's the most common. But still!
Can't wait for the DLC case and hopefully for AA6 someday. Aside from the bugs (one of which was quite a pain, as I had to redo a whole day of investigation), the engine was pretty perfect, because everything looked totally amazing. And hopefully AA6 keeps the team dynamic the Wright Anything Agency has going on now, because I think it worked really well.
Probably the most consistent Ace Attorney to date, imo. It didn't really feel like it ever had "that case" for me. I agree that Case 2 was the low point, but... it was pretty inoffensive to me. I didn't really feel like it dragged all that much.
Still, totally great. Up there with AA3, but I'd still probably have to keep AA3 in the #1 spot because of what great closure it brought for the original 3 games
and Godot.
So I'll just echo 3>5>1>4>2, even if it's not a really interesting ranking, because it seems as though it's the most common. But still!
Can't wait for the DLC case and hopefully for AA6 someday. Aside from the bugs (one of which was quite a pain, as I had to redo a whole day of investigation), the engine was pretty perfect, because everything looked totally amazing. And hopefully AA6 keeps the team dynamic the Wright Anything Agency has going on now, because I think it worked really well.
KnightBuster
Member
From across the room though?
Sure. Trucy points out that Apollo's eyes start bugging out when he starts doing it in AA4, so I could imagine it'd be easy to tell.
It's weird that he'd know what that meant, thought.
Sammy Samusu
Member
L Belle is amazing, I lost my shit when
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his cellphone started ringing
KnightBuster
Member
Trucy was also right next to him, so of course she'd notice. I think it'd be a bit harder for someone else to notice. Granted, he probably could deduce it because Apollo grabs his bracelet when the witness says a specific statement, but...
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I just finished the first day of court in case 2, does it get more wild in regular AA fashion? The way things are going, nothing has shocked me yet.
It's Ace Attorney. Do you even need to ask?
Poltergust
Member
Uh, wow. His name is far more clever than I originally gave it credit for.
...Hey, wait! That's a spoiler! D:<
Doesn't he use that catchphrase in day one of the case? I'll spoiler tag it just in case.
Case 3 spoilers
Robin is awesome, I also loved Means' chalkboard animations at the end there. Pretty great case.
Sure, as Flux said, Trucy even comments on how his eyes are bugging out when he does it. I'm sure you'd be able to tell if someone had their eyes as wide open as possible staring at someone, hell I don't even think apollo blinks during those scenes. As far as blackquill
he calls it as he sees it, I'm sure he has studied Apollo's courtroom antics before and he sees apollo does this thing and suddenly he has the witness on the ropes, it is a sort of "cheat"
KnightBuster
Member
His major thing was "I mean what I say and say what I mean, by all means." So he does use part of it.
I also thought it was noticeably harder.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I know, but I've been worried because they basically show the killer in the intro (supposedly). Didn't know if that had any effect on it or not. :/
Lol, I completely forgot about that phrase. All I remembered was, "The ends justify the means."
Poltergust
Member
Actually, I'm not sure where the difficulty complaints are coming from. I mean, sure, there are times when the characters outright state the answer for you, but there are plenty of instances where you have to think critically about what to present.
This is not AJ, people. Now that's a really easy game (except for that one Perceive section in the last case).
EDIT: I do wish the penalty bar was more variable in terms of how much you'd get penalized, though. I have no idea why that was taken away in both AJ and this game.
This is not AJ, people. Now that's a really easy game (except for that one Perceive section in the last case).
EDIT: I do wish the penalty bar was more variable in terms of how much you'd get penalized, though. I have no idea why that was taken away in both AJ and this game.
KnightBuster
Member
But then why
does he allow Athena to access the Mood Matrix? It's basically doing the same job Apollo's perceive ability does.
Is it really illegal though? He is always blatant in saying not to touch absolutely anything. If you stumble on a crime scene, what is illegal about looking around after you report it?
End game spoilers
Blackquill does not understand what Apollo is doing thus he calls it a cheat but he knows exactly what Athena is doing and he even agrees with the idea behind it since he studied psychology from the same person that created the mood matrix in the first place.
Poltergust
Member
Yes, easy. It was intentionally made that way because it was supposed to bring in new players.
dude it's super illegal
maybe not in AA world though cos everything is fucked. 3 day at most trials that tend to start the day after the murder. lol
Oh ho ho keep going.
KnightBuster
Member
I suppose that does make sense.
If AA6 comes around and Blackquill still doesn't let him use it (if he prosecutes a case), I'm going to be annoyed though.
Plus they are both not actually doing the same thing, Apollo looks for nervous twitches or tells while Athena looks for what emotions are coming through in the voice. They may both lead to contradictions but they are fundamentally different.
dragonlife
Member
This game was definitely one of the easiest for me, but that's not such a bad thing.
What is illegal about it? Honestly. It's only tampering if you add, remove, move, or even touch anything but to look around? I don't see anything wrong there. Hell, you are probably helping since if it is a really big crime, they will probably be questioning you about the state you found everything in upwards of 100 times.
I wouldn't be annoyed
He still had a disdainful attitude about it at the end of AA5, he only allowed it because at that point, the defense and prosecution just wanted the phantom in a cage ASAP.
alright, I won't feel "that" bad then...
I'm loving the "presentation" of the game so far... the cutscenes, the music, the animations, the little camera pans over the courtroom...
it's freaking awesome...
between pokemon, AA5 and the free Hotline Miami for the Vita, october-november will be handheld heaven for me.
even by being at the presence of a crime scene you're probably contaminating it in some way. Not like Nick ever uses gloves. Half the time he steals evidence from the crime scene (after a while it stopped being apparent that he was just documenting stuff and putting it into the court record). Even in Case 3 when he explicitly says not to touch anything
they just rifle through Courte's planner anyway
I don't really care since Ace Attorney is so utterly divorced from reality towards the prosecutor (onus of proof for most legal systems lies on the prosecution, not the defence!) that anything biasing it towards the defence is fine by me
KnightBuster
Member
Mostly because it's a legitimate thing Apollo does. Looking for nervous tics isn't even cheating, so Simon's attitude about it kind of annoyed me while playing. Don't get me wrong, I love Simon and he's one of the better prosecutors in the series, but it's just this one matter that annoys me otherwise.
If I remember right, he seems specifically miffed
that Apollo's trick is supernatural in nature. The Mood Matrix is, at least in theory, science-based.
Minor-ish case 5 spoilers:
There's actually a discussion in Case 5 at one point about whether or not the Mood Matrix findings can really count as evidence. The Judge waffles a bit on this - his verdict is that it doesn't count quite as much as real evidence but it's a permissible tool since it often opens up new testimony and/or exposes the importance of hard evidence.
Also: finished the game last night. Well. This morning, at 1:30 or so - it kept me up. Excellent overall: great music, fantastic animation, relatively strong cases, and I liked the relatively even-handed approach to having 3 attorneys on the team. I'm looking forward to the DLC, and really hoping that there's going to be an AA6 (end-of-game spoilers
especially given some of the hints about an over-arching 'dark age of law' plotline and the possible return of Maya
lol I couldn't help but laugh when they did what was in the spoiler. I won't pretend that they are perfect about it but ah well
Hey, he has to be a dick somehow, at least he didn't throw coffee at anyone!
Attack Taka!
Dark age of law storyline is wrapped up. The only two things that ushered in the dark age have been cleared. Phoenix's forgery and Blackquill's murder conviction
Edit: Sorian's double post disappeared into Trucy's magic panties!
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Still at the beginning of Case 3. Will there be any discussion on why
from the end of AA4 hasn't shown up yet?
the jurist system
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Professor Beef
Banned
omg omg omg omg
Case 5 spoilers (investigation, day 1):
Case 5 spoilers (investigation, day 1):
PEARLS IS SO CUTE. Its like she never left! And the way they captured Maya's essence in her letter, I am just so happy. AND PEARLS' THEME, OMG
Figures.
And spoiler your quote that I stealth edited.
Sir yes sir.
Thought not really a spoiler if you haven't played AA4 IMO.
Needs more angry face at Phoenix with shacking up with a new 18 year old
KnightBuster
Member
I'm pretty sure she's so convinced Mr. Nick and Mystic Maya are a thing now she actually doesn't distrust him. LOVE CONQUERS ALL.
After 5 ace attorney games, I don't think there is anyone who Phoenix can end up with that would make the entire fan base happy. The man can never be happy T_T
or he has actually slept with every possible love interest and assistant he has ever had, the dark age of law indeed. Fuck it, he slept with Junie too, get yo shit out of here Apollo
KnightBuster
Member
Apollo is too busy batting for the other team. Apollo x Clay ftw. I'm sure he'll find someone else in time.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
So yeah, this is going to be an illustration I do. Though I'll need to drag get my sister and her fiancee to model for me to get the pose/perspective right. XD
*high five*
OTP.