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[Parazels]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I spent $4700 and change for my 4090 build.

I think people forgot how expensive it was to buy a new system when the 4090 launched

 

[kiphalfton]

Nobody has done a 1:1 comparison, for the exact build with a 4090 to figure out how much the 5090 should cost.

Come on.

 

[nkarafo]

Translation:

Im poor, poor, pooor, poor, poor, poor, Doesn't being poor matter, I don't consider being poor, xx80 is the real top end for poor, Im poor

Being a sensible consumer means you are poor now?

 

[JimmyRustler]

Serious question to the PC guys… Why the hell do you support this scam?

I mean, the hardware itself is good but the games released today in no way whatsoever justify the hardware required for current game releases.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Serious question to the PC guys… Why the hell do you support this scam?

I mean, the hardware itself is good but the games released today in no way whatsoever justify the hardware required for current game releases.

Some have the means to pay for the best of the best and haven’t reached their no deal point yet

 

[The Pleasure]

That will cost you 2,000 more.

Master race of gamers gotta pay. They got that Nvidia graphics card money.

 

[bundylove]

Oh yes yes . Pc gaming is king.
Looking at my ps5 pro.....pc gaming is king

 

[JimmyRustler]

Some have the means to pay for the best of the best and haven’t reached their no deal point yet

Fair enough. But I mean… it’s the principle at this point. The games released today barely look better than many games released on the PS fucking 4, yet need hardware dozends of time the power of the PS4.

Even with millions on the bank I would not support this utter scam. It’s like they are laughing at you face.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Top end was range was like 350 - 600 back in the 8800 era. You had 3 top end cards GTS, GTX and ultra.
A "60" series midrange card, the 8600gt was had for 150 at launch.
Entry level 8400 - $50, 8500 -100.

There was a good price for anyone and it was affordable. It was in line with inflation as you consider back in 2000 a voodoo 5 5500 pci/agp was $399 top of the line.
Geforce 2 GTS was 329 and ultra 450. The first geforce card 256 was $199.

Prices have gone from bad to worse sine the 2xxx series. and Leather jacket man's stock portfolio and number of houses skyrocketed.
You can blame bitcoin miners for all of this shit.

At that time, $450 was a lot of money, at least in my country. People had to spend 2 salaries to buy the GeForce 2 (or Playstation 2). Now people can buy 4080 with a single salary, or two PS5 consoles.

Prices have skyrocketed due to the mining craze and Covid. Nvidia is also hitting a wall, as node shrinkage is no longer driving prices down, but the opposite.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Imagine spending 6K on a fucking Acer.

 

[//DEVIL//]

if this card end up costing 3500$ CAD plus tax... thats close to 4k.. i think I will be out at this price range. a bit too much. 3k is fine. but dont push more (Canadian $ speaking)

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Fair enough. But I mean… it’s the principle at this point. The games released today barely look better than many games released on the PS fucking 4, yet need hardware dozends of time the power of the PS4.

Even with millions on the bank I would not support this utter scam. It’s like they are laughing at you face.

I dont blame anyone for not wanting to pay those prices no matter what your worth is

But I am an old dude at 57 and gaming is one of my main hobbies that I dearly love so have the best PC I can get is an easy choice for me

I will leave the boycotts up to the younger people

 

[FalconPunch]

if this card end up costing 3500$ CAD plus tax... thats close to 4k.. i think I will be out at this price range. a bit too much. 3k is fine. but dont push more (Canadian $ speaking)

No it's not. That's crazy man.

 

[Putonahappyface]

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Fair enough. But I mean… it’s the principle at this point. The games released today barely look better than many games released on the PS fucking 4, yet need hardware dozends of time the power of the PS4.

Even with millions on the bank I would not support this utter scam. It’s like they are laughing at you face.

Part of it is wanting the best no matter what. Part of it is e-penis.

It is completely optional of course. Don't care, don't need it.

 

[FalconPunch]

I dont blame anyone for not wanting to pay those prices no matter what your worth is

But I am an old dude at 57 and gaming is one of my main hobbies that I dearly love so have the best PC I can get is an easy choice for me

I will leave the boycotts up to the younger people

Spend that money, take a vacation somewhere interesting, meet some new people. You'll remember that much more than whatever fps you gain from this upgrade. I mean, if the 5090 let you run fully pathtraced games at 4k60fps native, then I'd understand. However if we assume best case scenario which is like a 50% improvement in RT on the same node, then you can now play cyberpunk on the 5090 at 1080p90fps path traced native instead of 1080p60fps path traced native on the 4090.

 

[llien]

Huang, you are amazing.

Don't be shy, pwn them harder.

They deserve it. ))

 

[Crayon]

Such expensive GPUs are not going to appeal to a lot of gamers. I see a big opportunity for AMD, especially considering the recent leaks (RX8800XT 599$ offering RTX4080 performance even in RT at 25% less power consumption) .

Most will not buy 5090's, but many will buy overpriced 5060's based on 5090's reputation. Super weird, but it works. They call it a halo product. You go into the dealership to test drive that TRD Camry, and leave with a Camry sport or whatever.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Spend that money, take a vacation somewhere interesting, meet some new people. You'll remember that much more than whatever fps you gain from this upgrade. I mean, if the 5090 let you run fully pathtraced games at 4k60fps native, then I'd understand. However if we assume best case scenario which is like a 50% improvement in RT on the same node, then you can now play cyberpunk on the 5090 at 1080p90fps path traced native instead of 1080p60fps path traced native on the 4090.

If I can answer that without sounding too overly conceited

I retired in 2000, we vacation often all over the world, currently staying in our winter home on the coast in Jupiter Florida, we travel all over the US for engagements, fund raisers and the likes.

Spending this on a PC doesn’t even rate on the do I need to talk to the wife meter, she would just laugh and say I dont care babe

 

[Rush2112]

RTX 5090 with an i7 chip? No fuck YOU.

 

[neocycle]

Shame the $700 1080TI days are long gone.

I buy 2 consoles for that price.

 

[//DEVIL//]

No it's not. That's crazy man.

The 4090 strix was close to this number here

 

[FalconPunch]

The 4090 strix was close to this number here

I bought the founders 4090 from bestbuy for 2099. Spending anymore than that was just a waste of money.

 

[Black_Stride]

Serious question to the PC guys… Why the hell do you support this scam?

I mean, the hardware itself is good but the games released today in no way whatsoever justify the hardware required for current game releases.

You think:

• Alan Wake 2 PT
• CyberPunk PT
• Portal RTX
• Flight Sim'24
• Indiana Jones PT
• Silent Hill 2
• Final Fantasy XVI
• WuKong
• Space Marine 2

Should be able to run on a 1600X mated to a GTX1060 at highest 4K144hz?



And these are games just in recent months that ive purchased to stress out my RTX4080.....im skipping the generation either way, but even I know games are already pushing hardware hard.
For you to say games released today in no way justify the hardware requirements i utter nonsense.

 

[M1987]

Such expensive GPUs are not going to appeal to a lot of gamers. I see a big opportunity for AMD, especially considering the recent leaks (RX8800XT 599$ offering RTX4080 performance even in RT at 25% less power consumption) .

I really don't think the 8800XT is going to offer that sort of performance for 599

 

[Fess]

Serious question to the PC guys… Why the hell do you support this scam?

I wouldn’t buy a $6000 prebuild but I would build a custom $6000 PC without thinking twice if I had a reason to do it. I love the building process and choosing the parts and building a beastly thing would be awesome.

But the next upgrade will likely be the CPU or a better screen for me.

Still, if Nvidia show something truly revolutionary I’ll be there again.

 

[StereoVsn]

Did you see the lines when the 4090 first launched?

Another thing to consider is that these cards actually can act pretty well for AI model dev. 24GB isn’t bad at all and 32GB is even better. Professional Nvidia hardware is a lot more.

Edit: My company bought a bunch of 4090s for the purpose a while back as f paying $6-8K for a dev card with decent amount of VRAM.

Some folks are seriously considering new MacBook Pro with 128GB and M4 Max chip very promising due to unified memory and fairly good memory bandwidth.

 

[Ivan]

If I can answer that without sounding too overly conceited

I retired in 2000, we vacation often all over the world, currently staying in our winter home on the coast in Jupiter Florida, we travel all over the US for engagements, fund raisers and the likes.

Spending this on a PC doesn’t even rate on the do I need to talk to the wife meter, she would just laugh and say I dont care babe

Who gives a shit about that?

 

[StereoVsn]

You think:

• Alan Wake 2 PT
• CyberPunk PT
• Portal RTX
• Flight Sim'24
• Indiana Jones PT
• Silent Hill 2
• Final Fantasy XVI
• WuKong
• Space Marine 2

Should be able to run on a 1600X mated to a GTX1060 at highest 4K144hz?



And these are games just in recent months that ive purchased to stress out my RTX4080.....im skipping the generation either way, but even I know games are already pushing hardware hard.
For you to say games released today in no way justify the hardware requirements i utter nonsense.

Yep, and especially if you want say 240hz experience on some new OLED 4Ks, then forget about it.

All that said, Nvidia could easily release at same price as 4090 and still take a ton of profit. But they aren’t because people are paying these prices anyways.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I'll take two!

.Jpgs of it.

 

[Bernoulli]

Some have the means to pay for the best of the best and haven’t reached their no deal point yet

And do you sell your previous card?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

And do you sell your previous card?

I usually donate all my old PCs to my wifes old High Schools PC lab

Who gives a shit about that?

He made it sound like I was only saving and spending money on this PC and not out there enjoying life

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

You think:

• Alan Wake 2 PT
• CyberPunk PT
• Portal RTX
• Flight Sim'24
• Indiana Jones PT
• Silent Hill 2
• Final Fantasy XVI
• WuKong
• Space Marine 2

Should be able to run on a 1600X mated to a GTX1060 at highest 4K144hz?



And these are games just in recent months that ive purchased to stress out my RTX4080.....im skipping the generation either way, but even I know games are already pushing hardware hard.
For you to say games released today in no way justify the hardware requirements i utter nonsense.

These are native TAA (or 100% resolution scale) results. I get 70fps in hellblade 2 at 1440p with maxed out settings, but at 4K DLSS Quality + FG I get much better image quality and 110-120fps. It doesn't matter to me whether the game runs at native resolution or DLSS if I can't tell the difference.

I'm expecting that the RTX5090 will be twice as fast as my card, so many games will run at 4K 200-240fps with DLSS + FG. People with 4K 240Hz will be happy for sure.

 

[HogIsland]

People really got it twisted thinking the xx90 series is for gaming rather than making games.

 

[Lupin3]

Soon Nvidia will remove "RTX" as a prefix in favor of "$".

 

[JimmyRustler]

You think:

• Alan Wake 2 PT
• CyberPunk PT
• Portal RTX
• Flight Sim'24
• Indiana Jones PT
• Silent Hill 2
• Final Fantasy XVI
• WuKong
• Space Marine 2

Should be able to run on a 1600X mated to a GTX1060 at highest 4K144hz?



And these are games just in recent months that ive purchased to stress out my RTX4080.....im skipping the generation either way, but even I know games are already pushing hardware hard.
For you to say games released today in no way justify the hardware requirements i utter nonsense.

I played all those games and no, they shouldn’t require hardware that is 10 times better than the PS4. It’s insane and I can’t believe there are actually people that are ok with it.

I remember times when I bought a high end rig for top dollar to play games that were leauges ahead of console games. Now you pay 5 times as much snd have to pixel count.

Something went awry along the way here. Stop encouraging this scam. Devs should make games that justify this kind of hardware again, not shitty engines that require you to upgrade your rig for no apparent reason.

Wait until a Half Life Remakes comes out, barely looks better than the original but still asks for a nuclear power plant to hit 60 fps.

What a joke.

 

[K' Dash]

Did you see the lines when the 4090 first launched?

Most of those people will go into debt for stupid shit like this.

 

[xVodevil]

Nah gonna have to sit this one out, 16 Gb is just simply not good enough. Maybe 24Gb Supers coming soon for 5080.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Most people go on holiday every year and that's what 2k?

There's money in first world countries. Like fuck it some of you people should track on how much you're spending at Subways, Starbucks and McDonald's. Probably buy a 5090.

 

[Parazels]

Nvidia is going to bankrupt Battaglia Alex
from Digital Foundry!

 

[//DEVIL//]

I bought the founders 4090 from bestbuy for 2099. Spending anymore than that was just a waste of money.

Yes. I had that card as well. but we ended up paying 2400 after tax. I get what you are saying. but I highly doubt with our current shitty currency conversion rate, the 5090 to be anything below 2500$ for the FE model plus tax. other models to vary in between 2500 to 3k plus tax.

 

[FalconPunch]

Yes. I had that card as well. but we ended up paying 2400 after tax. I get what you are saying. but I highly doubt with our current shitty currency conversion rate, the 5090 to be anything below 2500$ for the FE model plus tax. other models to vary in between 2500 to 3k plus tax.

Ahh I hadn't factored that in and yea currency is real bad right now. I don't think the 5090 will be a big seller in Canada. It's probably going to be $3k min which is an automatic non-starter for many.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

That's beyond ridiculous.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Serious question to the PC guys… Why the hell do you support this scam?

I mean, the hardware itself is good but the games released today in no way whatsoever justify the hardware required for current game releases.

We don't. I am still on the RTX 3000 series because the 4000 prices scam.

 

[Papa_Wisdom]

How the hell is that out of stock? 300+ ordered per month.
IS there that many rich pc gamers? Seriously that is crazy expensive.

Shit I am still getting away with my 1080p display and a 3060ti maxes everything I need. Spent under 1k on the system 3 years ago and I am still happy.

I’m still rocking a 1660 super

Pray for me

 

[j0hnnix]

What a good time to be a FedEx driver. Lol.

 

[Black_Stride]

I played all those games and no, they shouldn’t require hardware that is 10 times better than the PS4. It’s insane and I can’t believe there are actually people that are ok with it.

I remember times when I bought a high end rig for top dollar to play games that were leauges ahead of console games. Now you pay 5 times as much snd have to pixel count.

Something went awry along the way here. Stop encouraging this scam. Devs should make games that justify this kind of hardware again, not shitty engines that require you to upgrade your rig for no apparent reason.

Wait until a Half Life Remakes comes out, barely looks better than the original but still asks for a nuclear power plant to hit 60 fps.

What a joke.

Alan Wake 2 PT looks borderline offline at full tilt and you really think it should be running at 4K144 on what an RTX2060?
Portal RTX literally cant run on consoles at all.
The light jumping through portals blew my frikken mind and ive still not been impressed by something that good on console yet.

The difference between the console versions and PC of Indiana Jones, Portal, Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk is near literally generational.
Even Wukong, when i saw the console version i actually gasped cuz i thought it was like a PS4 version or something.



You are either really out of touch, really ignorant and dont know what you are talking about or just being purposely obtuse.
Either way shut the hell up, running these current games at 1440p+ full tilt def requires RTX4080 levels of hardware.....if you want 4K HFR you are gonna need stuff beyond the RTX4080, e.g RTX5080+.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

And it doesn't even come with a disc drive or stand!

Oh wait, nevermind. Just 6X the cost of a PS5 Pro....tee hee.

 

[rodrigolfp]

And it doesn't even come with a disc drive or stand!

Oh wait, nevermind. Just 6X the cost of a PS5 Pro....tee hee.

Disc drive is not needed or you can use the one you had for decades and there are 4 stands.