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[Mibu no ookami]

After seeing that trailer that is almost certainly going to run sub 30 fps on PS5 and XSX let alone XSS, do you think we need a midgen refresh? Did the trailer change your mind or affirm your thoughts in one way or another?

 

[Mythoclast]

Yes I would buy a refresh to play GTA6 at 60+

 

[twilo99]

After seeing that trailer that is almost certainly going to run sub 30 fps on PS5 and XSX let alone XSS, do you think we need a midgen refresh? Did the trailer change your mind or affirm your thoughts in one way or another?

Do you think it will run at 10fps on the xss then?

 

[Three]

Considering we don't even know what hardware it was running on how would we know if we need a midgen?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Do you think it will run at 10fps on the xss then?

25-30 fps, 480-720p

 

[Represent.]

Yes, and Im buying a PS5PRO and a new OLED for this and the eventual TLOU 3

 

[Aenima]

No console generation needs a mid gen refresh. If you are OCD with graphics build a PC and upgrade it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

No, but I'll buy a Pro if Sony releases one.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

I wanted and expected a mid-gen refresh long before this trailer launched, PS5 Pro next year, believe.

 

[Majormaxxx]

No console generation needs a mid gen refresh. If you are OCD with graphics build a PC and upgrade it.

This refresh, if it exists, will be less noticeable than ps4 - >ps4 pro

 

[twilo99]

25-30 fps, 480-720p

30fps720p will be the likely situation on xss

Why is everyone convinced it won't be 60fps on the PS5/X ?

 

[Represent.]

build a PC

Grand Theft Auto VI is coming to PlayStation® 5 computer entertainment systems and Xbox Series X|S games and entertainment systems in 2025.

And wait til god knows when to play this masterpiece?

 

[Three]

No console generation needs a mid gen refresh. If you are OCD with graphics build a PC and upgrade it.

To not be able to play the game?

 

[existensmaximum]

No, it needs more PS5 exclusives that aren't shackled by the Series S. Pour all the time, money and other resources into taking advantage of that hardware.

 

[KaiserBecks]

There have been only a few current gen showcases (and none of them were open world iirc) so I don’t think we really know what ps5 and xsx are really capable of. I would welcome a refresh but I don’t think it’s really necessary yet.

 

[Aenima]

Grand Theft Auto VI is coming to PlayStation® 5 computer entertainment systems and Xbox Series X|S games and entertainment systems in 2025.

And wait til god knows when to play this masterpiece?

Probably 1 year. Its usually the time Rockstar takes to port the games to PC

 

[M.W.]

We needed them in 2020

 

[Auto_aim1]

I'm just hoping my PS5 can survive until Pro comes out. However, after spreading the liquid metal around with a Q-tip I haven't gotten a single overheating message.

 

[rofif]

No if that’s ps5 footage. It only needs games designed for this gen.
That said I will get one

 

[StereoVsn]

Do you think it will run at 10fps on the xss then?

480p at cinematic 24fps. Truly how it is meant to be seen.

 

[Balducci30]

We need Xss to be phased out

 

[Killjoy-NL]

No if that’s ps5 footage. It only needs games designed for this gen.
That said I will get one

Yeah, this as well.

GTA VI actually proves a Pro-console isn't needed, if we can expect that quality for a game like GTA in 2025.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Devs just need to spend their time optimizing one mode per console. Have a vision and stick to it. Let the PC Elite have to deal with making choices.

 

[acm2000]

People just can't help themselves but to make really pointless threads these days huh.

 

[VeganElduderino]

nah! were at that point that pC is the shitz man

 

[Zuzu]

We're gonna need a mid-gen refresh to have a hope of running the game at 60fps without it looking like trash. So yes, we need them.

 

[DenchDeckard]

So we've gone from it being cross gen and going to look like shit to these consoles can't handle it and we need more power, all in the space of like 72 hours...

God damn I love Gaf!

PC version on day one for the shiny graphics. Ps5 Pro version if it's 60 fps.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Let's just let this gen cook.

 

[Robb]

No, I didn’t find it very impressive tbh. Shouldn’t be a problem at all for current consoles, although I’m no hardware expert.

I’ll be happy to buy a refresh though.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

People just can't help themselves but to make really pointless threads these days huh.

Yet you voted in the poll AND you replied to the thread...

 

[mckmas8808]

No console generation needs a mid gen refresh. If you are OCD with graphics build a PC and upgrade it.

Consoles are easier to use. Please this game isn't launching on PC at all.

 

[Roxkis_ii]

I don't know how can gaguge the games proformance just off the trailer. If it has to take the Series S into consideration, then it's likely to run decent on the current gen consoles.

 

[Kumomeme]

rip Series S.

 

[Shane89]

it will run 4k 60 in performance mode and 1080p 60 in details mode. also, there will be a 120hz mode. mark that post

 

[Mownoc]

It doesn't "need" one but more options are always good and a PS5 Pro will probably be the only way to play a lot of games at 60fps on console.

I don't want to be gaming on PS5 level specs till November 2028 so if there isn't one I'll likely go back to PC just as I did in the PS3 generation. PS4 Pro satisfied my need for better performance.

 

[Mung]

But the Series X IS the mid gen refresh

Spoiler

lol

 

[Ar¢tos]

I don't know.
When they show gameplay instead of scripted in-game/in-engine cutscenes I might be able to answer...

 

[Kerotan]

How is it certainly going to run sub 30fps? They'll lower the resolution until it's a smooth 30fps.

And yes of course we need a ps5 pro. Even without GTA we needed it.

 

[willothedog]

If they want to sell as many copies as possible thus funneling people to the online money-maker they have to target what hardware is currently popular.

 

[Luipadre]

Yes and the pro is coming. Sony will sell so many PS5 pros in 2025 its not even funny

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I'll be day 1 for the PS5 Pro since GTA 6 will be best played on that system for an unspecified amount of time.

 

[FunkMiller]

This is a bit of a dumb question, given that the game is going to have to run on a Series S.

The game really isn’t going to need a more powerful machine to play it on.

 

[Sub_Level]

The mid-gen refresh is already slowly happening. Its called making actual ps5-targetted games instead of ps4 lol.

 

[Negotiator101]

There have been only a few current gen showcases (and none of them were open world iirc) so I don’t think we really know what ps5 and xsx are really capable of. I would welcome a refresh but I don’t think it’s really necessary yet.

Exactly, not even half way through this gen, people need to realise that all we've seen so far are cross gen games with some next-gen bells and whistles.

 

[ozz ex machina]

Exactly, not even half way through this gen, people need to realise that all we've seen so far are cross gen games with some next-gen bells and whistles.

How deluded are you? The games will look better but the FPS will get worse. PS5 is not some magic box. It's a mid to shit tier PC.

I'm just annoyed I'll likely have to wait 12 months for the PC release. I have a PS5 but would really resent if the pro is out and I end up buying one purely for GTA. I've barely touched the PS5 as it is.

 

[ReBurn]

Depends on whether you think what you saw in the trailer was real or whether it is made of bullshot and pixie dust.

 

[Del_X]

The only console that gets any of my time in the past year has been the Switch. I'm a sucker for GTA and will buy a PS5 Pro for it (assuming it comes out before GTAVI and they actually intend to have a 60fps mode for it).

I would not be surprised if this game is forcing MSFT to capitulate into a ham-fisted XSXL or some shit just to also have a high-end version since they can't point to PC.

 

[charles8771]

And why you think Rockstar released GTA 5 for PS3 and Xbox 360 despite how they were outdated by 2012/2013?

That something R* explained in 2012:

Rockstar opens up on decision to keep GTA5 this-gen

There's a new Grand Theft Auto game around the corner so the Rockstar heavyweights are being wheeled out for the media.…

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If wasn't for 4K TVs, then the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X wouldn't had existed.
That the only reason why PS4 Pro and Xbox One X came out, to push 4K even when PC gamers were just playing games at 1080p in 2017.

 

[Dane]

I don't think so, the reason why it happened with the last one for all I can remember was the criticism over the CPU being ultra outdated (and then in current one we barely use it).

 

[Erebus]

Is the question rhetorical?
All rumors point that Sony will release a Pro console next year, which is earlier than the release of GTA VI.