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[Cyberpunkd]

Guys, I get it if you are a hardcore Nintendo fan, but at least be honest and don't put things such as "games optimized for the platform", "portability", etc. PC handhelds - Steam Deck, ROG Ally X, Lenovo Legion - do all this and much better:

1. They allow to tweak the graphics settings and framerate if you want to prioritise graphics / fps / battery life, something you cannot do on the Switch and Switch 2
2. You are guaranteed endless backwards compatibility, older games will cost you nothing to "upgrade" and will play better as components get upgraded
3. Steam CD-Keys cost pennies compared even to Steam Sales ; handhelds running Windows give you the ability to subscribe to Game Pass
4. No paid online, duh

 

[bender]

 

[Skyfox]

Street Fighter 6 on switch 2 looked ROUGH (compared to my OLED steam deck)

 

[Lokaum D+]

also, it can run Switch 1 games

 

[TintoConCasera]

No lies detected.

also, it can run Switch 1 games

And GameCube games too!

 

[Danjin44]

I buy Nintendo systems because it has games I want to play…..the graphics power doesn't matter to me.

 

[Denton]

Do we know what hardware S2 has? I assume it is significantly faster than Steam Deck?

 

[jshackles]

2. You are guaranteed endless backwards compatibility,

I agree with most of what you've said, but this is false. I have tons of games on Steam that don't run in Windows 10/11 or the Steam Deck, and they're from defunct publishers that will never update them. Some have user-generated mods that let them run, others are lost forever. You don't actually get a guarantee. I mean, it's a pretty good track record that only a handful of my 5000 games don't work, but still...

 

[Magic Carpet]

Is the Switch 2 more powerful than my LCD Steam Deck?

 

[BennyBlanco]

I'm buying that Lenovo z2 extreme handheld and switch 2 on day 1. Sony is the odd man out for me going forward.

 

[SimTourist]

Street Fighter 6 on switch 2 looked ROUGH (compared to my OLED steam deck)

All 3rd party games looked rough and Nintendo's own stuff is stuck at ps3 level for 3 consoles in a row now

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Do we know what hardware S2 has? I assume it is significantly faster than Steam Deck?

Maybe, but that is not what the 3rd party reel showed, most of these looked rough.

 

[tr1p1ex]

like the Switch 2 but shittier with 100% more hassle.

 

[Durin]

I mean I love the Steam Deck, but the Switch 2 will get more optimization being a single-SKU platform, and DLSS is way cleaner upscaling than the not-FSR-4 the Deck has.

Big advantages over Switch 2 for the Deck are $50 cheaper now, emulation, mods and like you said pay to play online + better backwards compatibility + Steam sales/key site pricing.

I'm just glad the Steam Deck is so much less fussy since its launch, and it's as near to a console experience as I've seen a PC get.

 

[Fbh]

yeah right now I'd be more interested in a potential Steam Deck 2 than the Switch 2.
Way more games, emulation, customization and probably performance. Also between key resellers and regional pricing games also cost a fraction vs Nintendo stuff that will be $80 forever.

Do we know what hardware S2 has? I assume it is significantly faster than Steam Deck?

Based on how rough some of the games looked on the reveal, I doubt it

 

[lestar]

also, it can run Switch 1 games

Enhanced switch 1 games without paying for patches

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Might as well just buy a PS5 (Digital/Pro) + Portal.

 

[Buggy Loop]

In the end it doesn't have Switch 2 games, until otherwise proven. Switch 1 was hacked by the fuckup of Nvidia but who knows how long Switch 2 will last.

PC desktop + Switch 2 is fine combo for me. Why would I buy a PC handheld.

 

[K' Dash]

 

[ScHlAuChi]

And which one of those PC handhelds can play "The Duskbloods"?

 

[tkscz]

I'll stick to my gaming laptop.

 

[Dacvak]

It's never bad to have more options!

 

[bender]

I agree with most of what you've said, but this is false. I have tons of games on Steam that don't run in Windows 10/11 or the Steam Deck, and they're from defunct publishers that will never update them. Some have user-generated mods that let them run, others are lost forever. You don't actually get a guarantee. I mean, it's a pretty good track record that only a handful of my 5000 games don't work, but still...

Virtua Tennis 4

And then you have games that run but came before a time when controller support was standard on PC. You can tweak to fix a lot of issues with varying degrees of hassle and Valve's done a good job of streamlining, but the ease of use is greatly exaggerated.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

PC desktop + Switch 2 is fine combo for me. Why would I buy a PC handheld.

Because not everyone has or wants to buy a PC handheld?

 

[yogaflame]

Guys, I get it if you are a hardcore Nintendo fan, but at least be honest and don't put things such as "games optimized for the platform", "portability", etc. PC handhelds - Steam Deck, ROG Ally X, Lenovo Legion - do all this and much better:

1. They allow to tweak the graphics settings and framerate if you want to prioritise graphics / fps / battery life, something you cannot do on the Switch and Switch 2
2. You are guaranteed endless backwards compatibility, older games will cost you nothing to "upgrade" and will play better as components get upgraded
3. Steam CD-Keys cost pennies compared even to Steam Sales ; handhelds running Windows give you the ability to subscribe to Game Pass
4. No paid online, duh

It is all about Nintendo legendary exclusives, which what really matters.

 

[lestar]

And which one of those PC handhelds can play "The Duskbloods"?

Yuzu 2 coming soon

 

[Baemono]

Street Fighter 6 on switch 2 looked ROUGH (compared to my OLED steam deck)

During the direct yes, but the Youtube video on the channel looked way better

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

ho boy. let the handheld wars begin!!!

 

[CrimsonTide]

It is all about Nintendo legendary exclusives, which what really matters.

It's this and always been this. No one is buying Switch 2 to play the worst version of Cyberpunk or the other 5 year old ports.

It's all about their IP's and thats it.

 

[Zacfoldor]

 

[ScHlAuChi]

Yuzu 2 coming soon

Riiiight.....
Have fun waiting 5-10 years

 

[nani17]

Where I live
ROG Ally X€ 909
SteamDeck €420
Lenovo Legion Go €649
Switch 2 470

 

[Buggy Loop]

ho boy. let the handheld wars begin!!!

Its not even a war, cmon

Switch 2 will sales more in a few months than Steam deck's years of sales, if not even in the first week of launch. This is like bringing a knife to an atomic war.

 

[Hero_Select]

OP is so salty lmao

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Its not even a war, cmon

Switch 2 will sales more in a few months than Steam deck's years of sales, if not even in the first week of launch.

war in the social media sphere. Nintendo is the king the the handheld market

 

[Alebrije]

Can I play new Zeldas/Metroid/Mario games on a PC Handheld?

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I want a Steam Deck 2 with all the Switch 2 games emulated!

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I mean I love the Steam Deck, but the Switch 2 will get more optimization being a single-SKU platform, and DLSS is way cleaner upscaling than the not-FSR-4 the Deck has.

Wouldn't you like to show it during your device's big worldwide reveal?

 

[nani17]

Wheres the PC 2

 

[Deerock71]

Steam Deck and Switch 2 can co-exist.

 

[lestar]

Riiiight.....
Have fun waiting 5-10 years

Yuzu came out in 2018, and it was an emulator for a new hardware, Switch 2 is an iteration of Switch 1 hardware, they could use the yuzu code as a base to speedup the emulator development

 

[rofif]

let me say to you fuck off.
console is a console... and I never owned any nintendo lol

 

[_Ex_]

 

[Euler007]

Guys, I get it if you are a hardcore Nintendo fan, but at least be honest and don't put things such as "games optimized for the platform", "portability", etc. PC handhelds - Steam Deck, ROG Ally X, Lenovo Legion - do all this and much better:

1. They allow to tweak the graphics settings and framerate if you want to prioritise graphics / fps / battery life, something you cannot do on the Switch and Switch 2
2. You are guaranteed endless backwards compatibility, older games will cost you nothing to "upgrade" and will play better as components get upgraded
3. Steam CD-Keys cost pennies compared even to Steam Sales ; handhelds running Windows give you the ability to subscribe to Game Pass
4. No paid online, duh

 

[Skyfox]

During the direct yes, but the Youtube video on the channel looked way better

I've watched that video now too and it still doesn't come close sadly…

What was impressive though was how hard the video editors worked to hide actual fighting ground footage!

 

[IDKFA]

Guys, I get it if you are a hardcore Nintendo fan, but at least be honest and don't put things such as "games optimized for the platform", "portability", etc. PC handhelds - Steam Deck, ROG Ally X, Lenovo Legion - do all this and much better:

1. They allow to tweak the graphics settings and framerate if you want to prioritise graphics / fps / battery life, something you cannot do on the Switch and Switch 2
2. You are guaranteed endless backwards compatibility, older games will cost you nothing to "upgrade" and will play better as components get upgraded
3. Steam CD-Keys cost pennies compared even to Steam Sales ; handhelds running Windows give you the ability to subscribe to Game Pass
4. No paid online, duh

I'm sold, but I'll probably wait for the next Steamdeck.

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

nice try trying to defend your toy

 

[Variahunter]

Riiiight.....
Have fun waiting 5-10 years

It's the same architecture coming from the Switch 1...

Why Nintendo has been C&D every emulator developers lately in your opinion ?

Because it'll be easily based on the same architecture as the Switch 1. We might see emulators on the first or second year at the latest, with very good compatibility and better graphics options.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Steam Deck and Switch 2 can co-exist.

I don't know if they can, Nintendo announced 3rd party exclusives. Nintendo might be a bit worried about these PC handhelds.
Will Asus, Lenovo, Steamdeck start doing exclusives next?

 

[Warnen]

I loved the ally x but for $150 more got a g14 with a 4060 and oled screen..

think I'd use more if had a desk top