Nintendo and the Switch 2 is reminding me of Microsoft and the Xbox One reveal

Oh here he is

Again

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Guy might even get his posting privileges revoked because I just saw one of his post get pop'd out of existence.
Probably because he called me an arrogant prick I would imagine 😂
 
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Nintendo has exclusive games that people want to play bad enough they'll buy the hardware. Microsoft doesn't.

that wasn't the issue of the Xbox One tho.
the Xbox One arguably had a far stronger first year than the PS4.

the Xbox One lost all the good will of players due to awful messaging, being overpriced, and being underpowered compared to the cheaper alternative.

there were still people thinking you can't play Xbox One games offline and can't trade retail games, years after the system was out. they completely sabotaged the entire momentum they had built up with the Xbox 360... trying to force always online, force retail games being locked to your account, forcing Kinect, the forced kinect raised the price of the system and more... and then they had to backtrack all of it, after the damage was already done.

the game's weren't the issue.
they had Forza 5 and Killer Instinct on launch (and Ryse... but fuck Ryse), had Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Halo MCC in the first year... and had full third party support basically.
 
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It could be the fastest selling console ever but you just gave yourself an 18 month out from accountability, very smart
It's common fucking sense. Every new piece of technology has a big hype to start and then sales almost always slow after the hype dies down. You cannot judge a product success just by initial sales. There is a difference between a flash in the pan (great sales then struggle long term) or a Hot product (long term stable high sales.) I believe the way Nintendo has developed the Switch 2 and all the bullshit anti-consumer practices will bite them in the ass.

Nintendo Fanboys are like Apple Fanatics. Miyamoto could shit in a box and charge the fanboys for a smell and they would be lining up down the block. The point being there is enough Hardcore Nintendo fans to support short term success. The main market is the casuals and I believe Nintendo has priced the casuals out of the market. Combined their new High prices with a struggling global economy and Shit Job market. I know most of you live in your bubble but most of the world is struggling right now. I highly doubt the masses are going to support the Switch 2. When you see that I am right, you can kiss my ring and my ass.
 
starting to sweat are we :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Not at all. I have always stated it will be a success initially and then struggle down the road. I still haven't changed that stance. Again when you see I am right you can kiss my ass.
 
I'd rather bum a tramp than touch an xboi.
I have no idea what you mean but reading your post has dropped by IQ several points. I learned a long time ago to never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level.
 
It's common fucking sense. Every new piece of technology has a big hype to start and then sales almost always slow after the hype dies down. You cannot judge a product success just by initial sales. There is a difference between a flash in the pan (great sales then struggle long term) or a Hot product (long term stable high sales.) I believe the way Nintendo has developed the Switch 2 and all the bullshit anti-consumer practices will bite them in the ass.

Nintendo Fanboys are like Apple Fanatics. Miyamoto could shit in a box and charge the fanboys for a smell and they would be lining up down the block. The point being there is enough Hardcore Nintendo fans to support short term success. The main market is the casuals and I believe Nintendo has priced the casuals out of the market. Combined their new High prices with a struggling global economy and Shit Job market. I know most of you live in your bubble but most of the world is struggling right now. I highly doubt the masses are going to support the Switch 2. When you see that I am right, you can kiss my ring and my ass.

 
Not at all. I have always stated it will be a success initially and then struggle down the road. I still haven't changed that stance. Again when you see I am right you can kiss my ass.
If Nintendo fails this industry is well and truly fucked.

Enjoy your victory lap (if you get it) but it will be a shame about your face. Although, if you cut off your nose you won't have bad taste anymore....you just won't have any taste at all. However this poses yet a deeper problem...how will you huff your own farts going forward?
 
It's common fucking sense. Every new piece of technology has a big hype to start and then sales almost always slow after the hype dies down. You cannot judge a product success just by initial sales. There is a difference between a flash in the pan (great sales then struggle long term) or a Hot product (long term stable high sales.) I believe the way Nintendo has developed the Switch 2 and all the bullshit anti-consumer practices will bite them in the ass.

Nintendo Fanboys are like Apple Fanatics. Miyamoto could shit in a box and charge the fanboys for a smell and they would be lining up down the block. The point being there is enough Hardcore Nintendo fans to support short term success. The main market is the casuals and I believe Nintendo has priced the casuals out of the market. Combined their new High prices with a struggling global economy and Shit Job market. I know most of you live in your bubble but most of the world is struggling right now. I highly doubt the masses are going to support the Switch 2. When you see that I am right, you can kiss my ring and my ass.
I was gonna respond to this but...
I have no idea what you mean but reading your post has dropped by IQ several points. I learned a long time ago to never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level.
I think I'll actually follow your advice.
 
I have no idea what you mean but reading your post has dropped by IQ several points. I learned a long time ago to never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level.
I normally wouldn't feel bad about that, but dropping from 3 to 1 leaves you in a really bad place. Sorry bro x
 
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Nintendo has way better 1st party IP than Microsoft had at the time. You could argue that the Wii U proved 1st party can't carry Nintendo. I'd agree with that, but you can clearly see that Nintendo built this thing to provide enough for 3rd parties to support it. I also think the hybrid factor of the Switch/Switch 2 makes the hardware be attractive to a wider audience than trying to copy gimmicks like Microsoft did with One X. I'm sure excited for enhancements to Switch games too. I think Switch 2 will be less successful than the Switch, but still very successful. It will be hard to beat the likely best selling console ever.
 
It will sell out it's first year just because there is enough fans indoctrinated and it's new Tech. Lets see what it looks like 18 months out.
It's common fucking sense. Every new piece of technology has a big hype to start and then sales almost always slow after the hype dies down. You cannot judge a product success just by initial sales. There is a difference between a flash in the pan (great sales then struggle long term) or a Hot product (long term stable high sales.) I believe the way Nintendo has developed the Switch 2 and all the bullshit anti-consumer practices will bite them in the ass.

Nintendo Fanboys are like Apple Fanatics. Miyamoto could shit in a box and charge the fanboys for a smell and they would be lining up down the block. The point being there is enough Hardcore Nintendo fans to support short term success. The main market is the casuals and I believe Nintendo has priced the casuals out of the market. Combined their new High prices with a struggling global economy and Shit Job market. I know most of you live in your bubble but most of the world is struggling right now. I highly doubt the masses are going to support the Switch 2. When you see that I am right, you can kiss my ring and my ass.

Not at all. I have always stated it will be a success initially and then struggle down the road. I still haven't changed that stance. Again when you see I am right you can kiss my ass.



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Sony becoming creatively bankrupt combined with a promising new Nintendo console is breaking people
Gamer79 Gamer79 was a Switch shill making thousands of threads a day complaining about the PS5. Not exactly what I'd call 'promising', though, outside of Donkey Kong Bananza looking neat. Somehow a weaker launch year than both Switch 1 and PS5, with even less new IP.
 
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Gamer79 Gamer79 was a Switch shill making thousands of threads a day complaining about the PS5. Not exactly what I'd call 'promising', though, outside of Donkey Kong Bananza looking neat. Somehow a weaker launch year than both Switch 1 and PS5, with even less new IP.
I strongly disagree.
This launch lineup is not only large but it's in gamings top 10, maybe top 5.
 
I strongly disagree.
This launch lineup is not only large but it's in gamings top 10, maybe top 5.
Mario Kart World (only game available at launch) looks like a Mario Kart that shouldn't have taken 8 years in development, Donkey Kong Bananza looks neat, though disappointing for a 8 years in development project from the studio behind 3D Mario, Drag x Drive looks like shit, Metroid Prime 4: Beyond looks absolutely mid for a 7 years in development REBOOTED project, Kirby Air Riders has zero gameplay, and that's kinda it? Not bad, but this is nowhere near top 5, IMO.
 
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I do think this launch is less graceful and than the first Switch 1 launch, especially with their pricing across the board. But this is not at all similar to Xbox One, which, from the very moment it was unveiled, began to self-implode. And it actually cost Microsoft the most important generation, where people were starting to build their libraries and get locked into the respective digital ecosystems.

However, I do think that Nintendo are unnecessarily pissing off people with trying to paywall performance improvements, charging 90€ for video games and the whole thing about games not being fully included on physical cartridges. If I was Nintendo, I would try to introduce these things around the mid-gen refresh, not at the launch of a new platform.
 
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Hope you enjoy the 9th Mario Kart game, it will be your only choice including the remastered Deluxe version up to 2041. :lollipop_grinning_smiling_eyes:
Nintendo taking their time with developing games rather than spamming broken and repetitive garbage on the market just to meet fiscal obligations is a good thing actually, I'm not sure what point you think you're making here


Nintendo Fanboys are like Apple Fanatics. Miyamoto could shit in a box and charge the fanboys for a smell and they would be lining up down the block. The point being there is enough Hardcore Nintendo fans to support short term success
If this is the case, what happened to the Wii U? Why did it not sell? Its sales dropped off within weeks of launch, why was there no burst of Nintendo fans buying it for 18 months before sales slowed? Is it possible you are a moron who is full of shit?
 
Mario Kart World (only game available at launch) looks like a Mario Kart that shouldn't have taken 8 years in development, Donkey Kong Bananza looks neat, though disappointing for a 8 years in development project from the studio behind 3D Mario, Drag x Drive looks like shit, Metroid Prime 4: Beyond looks absolutely mid for a 7 years in development REBOOTED project, Kirby Air Riders has zero gameplay, and that's kinda it? Not bad, but this is nowhere near top 5, IMO.
I don't follow over 30 games will be available at launch???

I think MKW will offer much more than the footage let's on.

As far as the rest of what you posted....
It's your opinion and opinions are great.
 
I strongly disagree.
This launch lineup is not only large but it's in gamings top 10, maybe top 5.
28 games is pretty big yes, but idk about quality. Also having a big launch lineup is a lot easier now then with older consoles.

Quickly looking any this list we have
  • 4 GameCube games only available to Online users
  • 7-8 ports of games available on every platform and 1-4 years old.
  • 2 paid upgrades for a 2 and 8 year old Zelda title.
  • 32 year old racing game available on every platform
  • HD port of a 3DS game
  • 7 ports of recent games most of which are available on the Switch already.
  • A couple indie games
  • Mario Kart World
  • A tech demo that you have to pay for.
I'm getting it on launch and I'm gonna be balls deep in Zelda for days but I can't say I'm impressed by the lineup. Ultimately it comes down to taste though.
 
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Nintendo taking their time with developing games rather than spamming broken and repetitive garbage on the market just to meet fiscal obligations is a good thing actually, I'm not sure what point you think you're making here
Broken garbage is not close to being the norm and, quite ironically, was the case of some projects that ended up having stupidly bloated development times (see Cyberpunk 2077). You're applying two extremes here, while it's totally possible to come out with fresh and innovative products without the need of these ridiculous development times; it was ridiculous for an Animal Crossing New Horizons lacking in content, and it's now ridiculous for a Metroid Prime 4 that's looking to be just another Metroid Prime.
I don't follow over 30 games will be available at launch???

I think MKW will offer much more than the footage let's on.

As far as the rest of what you posted....
It's your opinion and opinions are great.
There is nothing impressive about 30 (actually 25) games at launch if the vast majority of them are just late ports. PS5 DID have 30 games available at launch day, yet no one talks about it because it's, for the most part, nothing notable.
 
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28 games is pretty big yes, but idk about quality. Also having a big launch lineup is a lot easier now then with older consoles.

Quickly looking any this list we have
  • 4 GameCube games only available to Online users
  • 7-8 ports of games available on every platform and 1-4 years old.
  • 2 paid upgrades for a 2 and 8 year old Zelda title.
  • 32 year old racing game available on every platform
  • HD port of a 3DS game
  • 7 ports of recent games most of which are available on the Switch already.
  • A couple indie games
  • Mario Kart World
  • A tech demo that you have to pay for.
I'm getting it on launch and I'm gonna be balls deep in Zelda for days but I can't say I'm impressed by the lineup. Ultimately it comes down to taste though.
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Broken garbage is not close to being the norm and, quite ironically, was the case of some projects that ended up having stupidly bloated development times (see Cyberpunk 2077). You're applying two extremes here, while it's totally possible to come out with fresh and innovative products without the need of these ridiculous development times; it was ridiculous for an Animal Crossing New Horizons lacking in content, and it's now ridiculous for a Metroid Prime 4 that's looking to be just another Metroid Prime
I don't think I agree, to be honest. I think it's absurd to judge a game like Prime 4 before it was out, I think it's laughable to suggest New Horizons lacked content, particularly after the expansions were done. I think it's disingenuous to suggest Mario Kart World is just Mario Kart 9, or to ignore that it wasn't in active development until 2021.

All of that is irrelevant, though. What it comes down to is this. You are perfectly fine to have your opinion, of course. It's not invalid for you to think any of those things you said. But when literal objective and empirical metrics disagree with you on every way - review scores, sales, preorders, legs - then at the very least you should have the self awareness to not state your opinions as declarative statements. If people didn't think MKWorld was worth the wait, it would not have substantiated the volume of preorders for the very expensive console it did - particularly since, as you and several others have pointed out, other than Kart, there really isn't anything else there. If people didn't think New Horizons was a worthy product, especially at its much higher price than previous games in the series, then it wouldn't have reviewed as well as it did, and then it wouldn't have nearly tripled its launch sales over time, it would have tapered off and died. You can feel Kart looks unimpressive and New Horizons was underwhelming, and I can sit here making excuses or explanations — in the end none of it matters. Objective metrics disagree with you. At that point acting surprised that people disagree with you is just… I dunno, you do you.
 
I don't think I agree, to be honest. I think it's absurd to judge a game like Prime 4 before it was out
The wonders of first impressions, we've had three trailers in a row and none of them did much against the claims. I'm not stubborn enough to deny the case of it being an actual innovative sequel worthy of 7 years of development if it ends up being like that. But now? I can safely say that only the most hardcore fanbase will care about it.
I think it's laughable to suggest New Horizons lacked content, particularly after the expansions were done.
EPD did keep updating the game, but how is it laughable to suggest that it was definitely lacking in content upon launch and several years of development, from locations to characters from the previous game (New Leaf)?
I think it's disingenuous to suggest Mario Kart World is just Mario Kart 9, or to ignore that it wasn't in active development until 2021.
I mean, it was after quite a lengthy pre-production process, followed up by a lengthy production process.
All of that is irrelevant, though. What it comes down to is this. You are perfectly fine to have your opinion, of course. It's not invalid for you to think any of those things you said. But when literal objective and empirical metrics disagree with you on every way - review scores, sales, preorders, legs - then at the very least you should have the self awareness to not state your opinions as declarative statements. If people didn't think MKWorld was worth the wait, it would not have substantiated the volume of preorders for the very expensive console it did - particularly since, as you and several others have pointed out, other than Kart, there really isn't anything else there. If people didn't think New Horizons was a worthy product, especially at its much higher price than previous games in the series, then it wouldn't have reviewed as well as it did, and then it wouldn't have nearly tripled its launch sales over time, it would have tapered off and died. You can feel Kart looks unimpressive and New Horizons was underwhelming, and I can sit here making excuses or explanations — in the end none of it matters. Objective metrics disagree with you. At that point acting surprised that people disagree with you is just… I dunno, you do you.
I made sure to include an 'IMO' exactly for this. I'm one of the first people in the world to be totally aware of some of my takes not correlating with the overall market sentiment, and that's pretty much okay! I still feel the need to express that the production pipeline of Nintendo's studios is not exactly impressive for the results of the time some of those projects take in development; with Animal Crossing New Horizons, a product that made it to the market years ago, being the worst offender of this. I don't have any issue acknowledging the review scores and sales, I don't even think they're bad games per se.
I don't know man, I think this energy would have been more fitting against the actual warrior post at #159.
 
Broken garbage is not close to being the norm and, quite ironically, was the case of some projects that ended up having stupidly bloated development times (see Cyberpunk 2077). You're applying two extremes here, while it's totally possible to come out with fresh and innovative products without the need of these ridiculous development times; it was ridiculous for an Animal Crossing New Horizons lacking in content, and it's now ridiculous for a Metroid Prime 4 that's looking to be just another Metroid Prime.

There is nothing impressive about 30 (actually 25) games at launch if the vast majority of them are just late ports. PS5 DID have 30 games available at launch day, yet no one talks about it because it's, for the most part, nothing notable.
IYO

It's 28 for NA.
I was counting import games.
 
If Nintendo fails this industry is well and truly fucked.

Enjoy your victory lap (if you get it) but it will be a shame about your face. Although, if you cut off your nose you won't have bad taste anymore....you just won't have any taste at all. However this poses yet a deeper problem...how will you huff your own farts going forward?

The industry is fucked regardless of whether Nintendo fails with Switch 2.
 
If Nintendo fails this industry is well and truly fucked.

Enjoy your victory lap (if you get it) but it will be a shame about your face. Although, if you cut off your nose you won't have bad taste anymore....you just won't have any taste at all. However this poses yet a deeper problem...how will you huff your own farts going forward?
Nintendo saved gaming before and they can save it again.
 
Nintendo is the Disney of the video game world. Like Disney, they can charge anything they want and screw up numerous times and people will consider it an honor and duty to give them money. Honestly though, I don't see anything too egregious with the Switch 2. It's decently capable hardware. The big criticism would be the prices of games and accessories. Everything else is Nintendo being Nintendo.
 
It's common fucking sense. Every new piece of technology has a big hype to start and then sales almost always slow after the hype dies down. You cannot judge a product success just by initial sales. There is a difference between a flash in the pan (great sales then struggle long term) or a Hot product (long term stable high sales.) I believe the way Nintendo has developed the Switch 2 and all the bullshit anti-consumer practices will bite them in the ass.

Nintendo Fanboys are like Apple Fanatics. Miyamoto could shit in a box and charge the fanboys for a smell and they would be lining up down the block. The point being there is enough Hardcore Nintendo fans to support short term success. The main market is the casuals and I believe Nintendo has priced the casuals out of the market. Combined their new High prices with a struggling global economy and Shit Job market. I know most of you live in your bubble but most of the world is struggling right now. I highly doubt the masses are going to support the Switch 2. When you see that I am right, you can kiss my ring and my ass.
Which other systems has very strong sales for 18 months and then died?
 
If Nintendo fails this industry is well and truly fucked.

Enjoy your victory lap (if you get it) but it will be a shame about your face. Although, if you cut off your nose you won't have bad taste anymore....you just won't have any taste at all. However this poses yet a deeper problem...how will you huff your own farts going forward?

In the unlikely event Nintendo fail, that'll be their own fault. Nobody should be obliged to buy buy into Nintendo because it's the only way to save the industry from collapse.

Nintendo made the decision to hike up their game prices and introduce variable pricing. Gaming enthusiasts and Nintendo fans won't have a problem paying these prices. The question remains if the general public will be happy to pay up as well.

I actually think the Switch 2 will be successful, just not as successful as the OG Switch. It certainly won't flop or be the end of Nintendo.
 
Broken garbage is not close to being the norm and, quite ironically, was the case of some projects that ended up having stupidly bloated development times (see Cyberpunk 2077). You're applying two extremes here, while it's totally possible to come out with fresh and innovative products without the need of these ridiculous development times; it was ridiculous for an Animal Crossing New Horizons lacking in content, and it's now ridiculous for a Metroid Prime 4 that's looking to be just another Metroid Prime.

There is nothing impressive about 30 (actually 25) games at launch if the vast majority of them are just late ports. PS5 DID have 30 games available at launch day, yet no one talks about it because it's, for the most part, nothing notable.
If someone has never played those games it's impressive...and why do ppl act like launches don't get ports? Switch 1 had BOTW but outside of that it was slim pickings for months. It was basically the "BOTW box" for many people. How is that a more impressive launch lineup? Wii U wasn't any better either.
 
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