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[nial]

If someone has never played those games it's impressive...and why do ppl act like launches don't get ports? Switch 1 had BOTW but outside of that it was slim pickings for months. It was basically the "BOTW box" for many people. How is that a more impressive launch lineup? Wii U wasn't any better either.

I don't know if I could make it any clearer that I was talking about first-party in the first place.
Either way, consoles have been loaded with a shit ton of late third-party ports at launch for 25 years at this point, so it isn't *that* impressive in that aspect.
BTW, using your logic, Wii U had a better launch lineup than the Switch 2; 34 games, including Assassin's Creed III, Batman: Arkham City, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Darksiders II, Mass Effect 3, New Super Mario Bros. U, Ninja Gaiden 3, Nintendo Land, Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Warriors Orochi 3 and ZombiU. Heck, most of these even were actual *new* games at the time.

IYO

It's 28 for NA.
I was counting import games.

Did you include the GameCube games? I did not, as they aren't Switch 2 games.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I don't know if I could make it any clearer that I was talking about first-party in the first place.
Either way, consoles have been loaded with a shit ton of late third-party ports at launch for 25 years at this point, so it isn't *that* impressive in that aspect.
BTW, using your logic, Wii U had a better launch lineup than the Switch 2; 34 games, including Assassin's Creed III, Batman: Arkham City, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Darksiders II, Mass Effect 3, New Super Mario Bros. U, Ninja Gaiden 3, Nintendo Land, Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Warriors Orochi 3 and ZombiU. Heck, most of these even were actual *new* games at the time.

Did you include the GameCube games? I did not, as they aren't Switch 2 games.

I included everything that was playable day one.

First party wise it's launch and year one lineup is the best that's been offered in recent memory.

 

[Gambit2483]

I don't know if I could make it any clearer that I was talking about first-party in the first place.
Either way, consoles have been loaded with a shit ton of late third-party ports at launch for 25 years at this point, so it isn't *that* impressive in that aspect.
BTW, using your logic, Wii U had a better launch lineup than the Switch 2; 34 games, including Assassin's Creed III, Batman: Arkham City, Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Darksiders II, Mass Effect 3, New Super Mario Bros. U, Ninja Gaiden 3, Nintendo Land, Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Warriors Orochi 3 and ZombiU. Heck, most of these even were actual *new* games at the time.

Did you include the GameCube games? I did not, as they aren't Switch 2 games.

My point is those were all (mostly) ports too and the Wii U's 1st party launch offering was nowhere near the level of a Mario Kart World, hence "It wasn't any better either".

Switch 2's launch is arguably better than Wii U's based on 1st party alone.

 

[nial]

I included everything that was playable day one.

First party wise it's launch and year one lineup is the best that's been offered in recent memory.

Including emulated NSO classics as part of the lineup is a good way to inflate the list, I guess.

My point is those were all (mostly) ports too and the Wii U's 1st party launch offering was nowhere near the level of a Mario Kart World, hence "It wasn't any better either".

Switch 2's launch is arguably better than Wii U's based on 1st party alone.

I mean, I'd say your point is kinda lacking when major stuff like AC3, Black Ops 2, Darksiders 2, Sonic, Tekken Tag 2 (on consoles) and ZombiU were all new games at the time. Based on 1st party alone? Fine (even if NSMBU was still a big deal by itself and you also had Nintendo Land), but as a whole? Not really.

 

[bitbydeath]

In the unlikely event Nintendo fail, that'll be their own fault. Nobody should be obliged to buy buy into Nintendo because it's the only way to save the industry from collapse.

Nintendo made the decision to hike up their game prices and introduce variable pricing. Gaming enthusiasts and Nintendo fans won't have a problem paying these prices. The question remains if the general public will be happy to pay up as well.

I actually think the Switch 2 will be successful, just not as successful as the OG Switch. It certainly won't flop or be the end of Nintendo.

Nintendo could easily correct their gaming prices if they feel the pressure. I hope that happens for gamings sake.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Wrong thread

 

[tr1p1ex]

Switch 2 reminds me of the 3ds launch.

Higher price ...a little oft putting.

Not many games.

Looks like the previous device.

Gamechat has 3d 1st iteration vibes.

 

[Anthony Soprano]

Nintendo could easily correct their gaming prices if they feel the pressure. I hope that happens for gamings sake.

Even if this console went belly-up in sales (which it won't), Nintendo has plenty in reserve to go again. Worst case scenario, they switch to be a software company. As a software company, we would get better looking Nintendo games that have better framerate (with probably longer development time and better quality overall). Where's the L?

A Switch 2 flop would do nothing to harm the industry. Could even benefit Nintendo in the long run if it made them pivot more towards creativity rather than staying behind in hardware and redumping last-gen remakes.

edit: Nevermind, I misinterpreted the point of your post in regards to inflation prices becoming industry standard?

Wrong thread

Had no idea that the dock had an ethernet port, this is good news.

 

[IDKFA]

Nintendo could easily correct their gaming prices if they feel the pressure. I hope that happens for gamings sake.

Same. If this bullshit variable pricing model takes off, expect other publishers to swiftly follow.

 

[BlackTron]

The thing is Switch 1 still exists. It's kind of like Mattrick "We have a console for people who can't go online it's called 360" only Switch 1 is for people who can't afford Switch 2 and Nintendo can actually get away with it because that's their biggest competition, their own last system. They would have to intentionally kill it to potentially be in trouble.

Switch 1 is still getting a lot of games this year. I don't think it will suddenly turn into a pumpkin for casuals just because 2 came out. Just keep using Switch 1 until/unless Switch 2. Of course they would prefer you get a 2 to have the biggest audience when new 1p games drop. If the adoption of Switch 2 is that bad or slow yes they could tweak the plan, while continuing to float on 1, but I imagine their patience is great because they have no PS or Xbox Switch-like device applying pressure. If they did, I imagine there would be more launch titles.

 

[Gambit2483]

Including emulated NSO classics as part of the lineup is a good way to inflate the list, I guess.

I mean, I'd say your point is kinda lacking when major stuff like AC3, Black Ops 2, Darksiders 2, Sonic, Tekken Tag 2 (on consoles) and ZombiU were all new games at the time. Based on 1st party alone? Fine (even if NSMBU was still a big deal by itself and you also had Nintendo Land), but as a whole? Not really.

Ask anybody if they would rather have the WiiU launch or the Switch 2 launch and I guarantee you most would say Switch 2. NSMBU, while technically a good game was a poor filler launch title and Nintendo Land while unique and gun was just a technically demo for the Gamepad.

I can't believe you are seriously trying to glaze the Wii U launch

 

[nial]

Ask anybody if they would rather have the WiiU launch or the Switch 2 launch and I guarantee you most would say Switch 2. NSMBU, while technically a good game was a poor filler launch title and Nintendo Land while unique and gun was just a technically demo for the Gamepad.

I can't believe you are seriously trying to glaze the Wii U launch

First you talked about judging the launch AS A WHOLE when I was talking about first-party games only (leading to you bringing up the Wii U in the first place), then you started arguing over Mario Kart World being a better first-party game than New Super Mario Bros. U which I agreed with, while I was discussing the entirety of the launch lineup of both consoles. What do you even want now?

A single first-party game with several major new third-party games is better than a single first-party game with no major new third-party games, yes. How is this even up to discussion?

 

[jshackles]

Had no idea that the dock had an ethernet port, this is good news.

The OLED model came with one in the (slightly) redesigned dock, would be dumb of them to remove it - but this is Nintendo we're talking about.

 

[Ryu_Joestar]

still loves sony buuuut they must make more astro reternal stop gas woke crud anaaaaaad make portimble for me

Dude i am convinced more and more that you're the real Bowser typing on a keyboard

 

[GigaBowser]

Dude i am convinced more and more that you're the real Bowser typing on a keyboard

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