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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. |OT| Tahiti is a Magical Place (to...Hey guys, I found it!)
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- The movie dealt with
portals appearing worldwide. What if something happened with one of those portals?
- Why not try to get Natalie Portman or Stellan? Their role in the movie was limited. Get them as 'consultant' on the SHIELD case.
- Show what SHIELD did during the events of Thor 2! That is a tie-in.
- Try something that is more than Asgard exists, here is someone completely random that has no importance at all. Try to imagine a show about a terrorist organisation starring the janitor of Al Qaeda.
Joe Prodigy
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I really liked the last episode. Agent May is so cool.
Well she got to act traumatized and cry all episode so that's a lot easier than quips and plot spewing that the core cast has to do almost always. Simmons when she was about to die brought the water works.
I'm not so sure, I think he could have been being pulled back and forth from Muspelheim
But given how much Marvel likes to shit on any god hood and aura of awe and mystery about Thor, it seems like something they would have mentioned in the episode itself.
But then again maybe they didn't want to the current western religion of choice in America, hence keeping it at 'hell' and the discourse with god etc as a philosophical one but have no problem shitting on Norse mythology because they're intellectual cowards.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
wow, yea, as I suspected
people expected ABC to give this show some Infinity budget to do whatever...
I'm not so sure, I think he could have been being pulled back and forth from Muspelheim
But given how much Marvel likes to shit on any god hood and aura of awe and mystery about Thor, it seems like something they would have mentioned in the episode itself.
But then again maybe they didn't want to the current western religion of choice in America, hence keeping it at 'hell' and the discourse with god etc as a philosophical one but have no problem shitting on Norse mythology because they're intellectual cowards.
Looking on wiki, I haven't seen Thor 2 yet, but it said that Muspelheim was seen in the film, and I'm guessing that confirms that it isn't Hell but simply another world.
And that whole not-demystifying thing of Christianity I believe is a bit off base, considering they had no problem stating that Christianity was nonsense (or at least demons), Skye admitting she didn't believe in a God, May telling the guy God won't forgive him and that he'll just have to deal with the consequences by himself, and that ghosts are probably just people who switch back from dimension to dimension. So yeah, they shit on Christianity a bit too. They even took a shot at Hinduism in the last episode, speculating Vishnu was an alien.
I try not too look too into it cause a lot of them are jokes.
Fair enough yeah, it just sucks to see Norse mythology basically turned into a constant pun in this show and rendered not mythological/divine at all in Thors own films, right down to the All Father Odin; it loses something in that interpretation. In the original they made it intentionally blurry, but not so in the sequel for seemingly no reason. The episode still gave god/heaven/hell a lot of play with making sure there was dramatic music almost whenever it was discussed (and that's completely fine!), it seemed like it was still in 'make up your own mind' territory but I might be mistaken, you have valid points.
For the first one, that's what this most recent episode is about.
for the second, well they've already had Fury make a cameo but I would imagine that Portman and Stellan have (had) schedules that wouldn't accommodate. When we do see this sort of thing, it won't be regular, there just isn't the budget for it I don't think. Everyone brings up Arrow as having tie ins to the larger DCU, but that's much easier to do when they aren't working within an established universe that has only existed in movie form up until now. Until DC gets their act together with Batman SuperMan, Arrow can really do its own thing (and they may not connect the two at all). Look at all the cameos that happened in Small Ville because it was self contained, AoS isn't and that makes it harder.
They also have to consider, in using any D lister or character that could appear in the movies, how that limits the big screen creativity or potential. There are a lot of angles to consider.
I wouldn't mind a low level 'super' joining the team (not something strength/flight/speed based) but I'm not expecting something like that to happen (if it ever does) until the end of this season at the earliest.
Do we know if they have a set beginning and end time-frame in mind for AoS or is it just a 'well do it as long as it gets good ratings'.
Red Arremer
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I saw the film and I can state that this is bogus. Well, at least partially.
Muspelheim is one of the Nine Worlds, and there's portals to all Nine Realms, which show like a tiny portion of that realm - Muspelheim is among them, but it's not actually visited.
So showing what SHIELD did during the events of the movie requires a huge budget? Have the organization pick up the appearance of the portals, send out agents worldwide and send Coulson to one specific portal. Point 1 and 4 won't use anymore money than a typical episode. Option 2 can be done without actually showing Stellan so that would also be hugely cheap. None of those require huge, well known actors or more CGI than last episode. It just made a lot more sense in coordination with Thor 2 than what they actually did.
Of course, that would be the most expensive option. The other options won't cost more than a regular episode and would have made a lot more sense. The portal from the last episode could have been one of the actual Thor portals instead of that particle accelator thing. They make this huge movie with portals appearing everywhere and they do something completely silly to tie into it.
Well it is a portal. They were trying to recreate them and it went wrong. I get your criticism, they could have been more direct about the tie in.
Preview for the next episode in two weeks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76jnY_uVO8s
Summary
Preview for the next episode in two weeks:
The Super from episode 1 is back
Has his powers or at least to some degree
Said he is a 'new Agent'
Will he survive? Hopefully, he seems like a lot of what people have been asking for. Plus he's not a bad actor, but he might step on Wards role if he sticks around?
Has his powers or at least to some degree
Said he is a 'new Agent'
Will he survive? Hopefully, he seems like a lot of what people have been asking for. Plus he's not a bad actor, but he might step on Wards role if he sticks around?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76jnY_uVO8s
Summary
Marvel's Agents of SHIELD 1x10 "The Bridge" - In a shocking cliffhanger episode, Coulson takes the war back to Centipede, and this time he brings in Mike Peterson for some super-soldier support. As they get closer to the truth, startling secrets are revealed and an unexpected twist threatens the team, on Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Tuesday, December 10th on ABC. Subscribe to tvpromosdb on YouTube for more Marvel's Agents of SHIELD season 1 promos in HD!
Weapxn
Mikkelsexual
"Unrealistic Expectations; The thread"
Also, LOL @ those claiming they're done with the show but keep coming week after week, it's the Walking Dead thread all over again (for the last 4 seasons that is).
So try Stellan who loves being on Marvel movies. It is also one of four ideas and the hardest one of them. The three others are also more relevant than the stupid idea they went with.
No, just expecting my cross-over and tie-in episodes to actually have a relevance to the plot of the thing being tied into.
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
the last episode continued to have reference to Thor 2 (other universes and all). What you're asking for demands a better budget to be done well
Plus it was made super clear that this Unit of SHIELD is not involved in shit the Avengers and Fury are involved in. They usually do clean up of shit the Avengers or not gonna get involved in. So they dealt with shit the Aliens, Hydra, Asgardians left behind and people are using... It was always super clear to me that's what the show gonna be about.
If you expect this show to have a bunch comic characters popping out every episode, dealing directly with Avengers missions... you're screwed up.
Byakuya769
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You'd have to be a moron to believe a tv show was going to feature those characters.
I'm sorry to break up this argument, but -
MAY PLAYS CHUN-LI IN THE STREET FIGHTER MOVIE...
Also this:
Couldn't have said it better myself. Just shows you how clown shoes the show runners are
No one believed those characters were going to be in it but it definitely gave the vibe that it would be based around super heroes and would at least tie in to movie events. A clever writer would find a way to do that. As someone said above the portal episode would have made Mich more sense as a tie in. The asgardian thing was a freaking random event that just so happened after the events of thor 2. Clown shoes.
Looking through the writing staff, I kinda see a recurring theme- no one else started off launching successful shows. The bigger names on the crew were all hired on later in the process with shows that had already launched and been running for a while.
Jeff Bell didn't join Angel until S3. Didn't work on Alias until S4. X-Files S6.
Paul Zbyszewski - joined Lost with S5.
Monica Owusu-Breen - Joined Alias with S3, Lost with S3, Fringe with S3.
I have to wonder out loud if this is contributing to the issue.
Jeff Bell didn't join Angel until S3. Didn't work on Alias until S4. X-Files S6.
Paul Zbyszewski - joined Lost with S5.
Monica Owusu-Breen - Joined Alias with S3, Lost with S3, Fringe with S3.
I have to wonder out loud if this is contributing to the issue.
Because people love to post displeasure more than pleasure.
TacticalFox88
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So how does that explain Breaking Bad, Attack on Titan, etc?
Shows the difference in audience between a major-network movie-crossover show and a CW "each episode must contain at least one ab shot" show.
Shows the difference in audience between a major-network movie-crossover show and a CW "each episode must contain at least one ab shot" show.
We need Wart shirtless scenes more often.
Huh? Why was that, is there some bad blood between her and Marvel?
She doesn't like doing the movies, or rather was quote 'furious' when Marvel ditched Patty Jenkins as director of Thor sequel (responsible for the much superior Thor 1). The only reason she appeared in Thor 2 is because she's contractually obligated and she actually tried to get out of her multi film contract prior to filming.
There are a lot of actors who really dislike how cheap and tight assed Marvel Studios are and have gone on record saying that they will never work with them again. The only reason they ever got Whedon to do Avengers is because he agreed to do it for basically nothing. When Avengers was formally announced Marvel didn't even announce that he was directing, that's how little the studio valued his role at the time.
Also this:
Bobby Roberts
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Wart's always shirtless. Dude just wears a cape and a crown.
Kenneth Branagh directed THOR, not Patty Jenkins. She was upset about Jenkins getting dumped though. But I also don't remember Whedon's hiring for Avengers being as low-key/backburnered as you're putting it. And not just because I'm a nerd, either
Whedon's hiring was news, and Marvel didn't try to hide it.I'm sorry to break up this argument, but -
MAY PLAYS CHUN-LI IN THE STREET FIGHTER MOVIE...
Also this:
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Just started the latest episode.
Is this like Firestarter or Carrie?
Oh hey, Mayward is gonna actually be a thing.
Okay then.
Simmons wearing the exact tie as her shirt is adorable.
Is this like Firestarter or Carrie?
Oh hey, Mayward is gonna actually be a thing.
Okay then.
Simmons wearing the exact tie as her shirt is adorable.
Also this:
Her best role.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Well, she and
Erik did screw around with the portals
But it feels like they just threw that in to give her something to do. The Jane Foster character isn't that great. And I dunno if Portman's heart is really into it to sell it. Her and Chris Hemsworth don't feel like they have that sorta heated chemistry to sell the whirlwind romance.
#Sif4Life
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I'm sorry to break up this argument, but -
MAY PLAYS CHUN-LI IN THE STREET FIGHTER MOVIE...
Well, she andat the end.Erik did screw around with the portals
But it feels like they just threw that in to give her something to do. The Jane Foster character isn't that great. And I dunno if Portman's heart is really into it to sell it. Her and Chris Hemsworth don't feel like they have that sorta heated chemistry to sell the whirlwind romance.
#Sif4Life
Lady Sif as the female lead would be amazing, or just as Thors Love interest and one of the main cast. Janes character was completely fine until they actually pulled the trigger on the romance angle. Her character and dynamic with Thor would have been much more interesting if they didn't end up kissing in Thor 1 and it was left as a mild crush that came second to her scientific curiosity.
'She's searching for you' would have been an even stronger moment without needless 'omg lovveeeee' thrown in. It would have better illustrated how Thor and his people can inspire greatness.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Simmons should be the lead. She can carry this show.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
You spittin' some cold truth, son.
I really liked May in this episode.
She should prank more people and be completely deadpan while doing it.
Justice_dp
Member
Is it me or does the world feel too small? S.H.I.E.L.D. fields tons of teams, there should be a reason to the globetrotting of Coulson and his team. And the cast needs to expand fast. We need more characters, people with clear defined roles, more S.H.I.E.L.D. infrastructure. More mythos based stuff. The character building is fine even if slow, but we need stronger storylines to support the characters.
Jest Chillin
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She's the moral compass on the show as well as the hacker. That's been shown in a few episodes but never should that have been more clear than the most recent one.
But the audience doesn't see her as a moral compass. They see Coulson as that. They see her as obnoxious.
Jest Chillin
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I'm the audience and I definitely don't see Coulson as a Moral Compass at all. Especially considering that when Ward and Fitz were sent in on a mission when Fitz had no field experience.. Coulson was parroting the "trust the system" garbo like the rest of SHIELD's chain of command. Skye was the one who pushed to look further, convinced Simmons to help and uncovered that there was no extraction plan.
I also don't see Skye as obnoxious. I honestly question how closely people who hold those views are really paying attention to the plots. And that's not an insult. I just think that after a few early episodes where people weren't drawn in, they stopped caring and thus stopped paying attention to the specifics in the show.
Funky Papa
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May is a black hole of acting and emotion. She could have a pass if the show had some truly kickass action instead of the bleh, 90's quality action punches we are seeing, but alas, she's just filler. And rather unlikeable at it.
This also reminds me that the artistic direction of AOS is inexcusably poor. Shows like Sleepy Hollow and Almost Human have an extremely well developed visual identity that can be appreciated even when there's no flashy or overtly fantastic stuff on screen. Meanwhile, AOS looks about as generic as the agents in the Nexus. This lack of production values is some inexcusable bullshit for a show with an actual budget and the fashion and gadgetry pedigree of SHIELD. It almost looks and feels like some unimaginative fanfic devised by some equally unimaginative TV executive. I want to see Agent Coulson in a unitard firing a SHIELD pew-pew gun, swarms of AIM soldiers storming the Nexus, Baron Zemo and Doughboy wrecking shit. Alas, we are stuck with what we have.
Don't get me wrong, I've been enjoying the last few episodes, but AOS has ways to catch up and become the show that it should be.
This also reminds me that the artistic direction of AOS is inexcusably poor. Shows like Sleepy Hollow and Almost Human have an extremely well developed visual identity that can be appreciated even when there's no flashy or overtly fantastic stuff on screen. Meanwhile, AOS looks about as generic as the agents in the Nexus. This lack of production values is some inexcusable bullshit for a show with an actual budget and the fashion and gadgetry pedigree of SHIELD. It almost looks and feels like some unimaginative fanfic devised by some equally unimaginative TV executive. I want to see Agent Coulson in a unitard firing a SHIELD pew-pew gun, swarms of AIM soldiers storming the Nexus, Baron Zemo and Doughboy wrecking shit. Alas, we are stuck with what we have.
Don't get me wrong, I've been enjoying the last few episodes, but AOS has ways to catch up and become the show that it should be.
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