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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. |OT| Tahiti is a Magical Place (to...Hey guys, I found it!)

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Future

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strobogo said:
What really bothered me about this episode was how Coulson was gripping the steering wheel like he had Parkinson's. It was so distracting.
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Haha glad someone mentioned that. It's hard to do green screen driving. But it's even harder when a character is moving the wheel all over the place while driving straight. Just terrible direction
 
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Future said:
Haha glad someone mentioned that. It's hard to do green screen driving. But it's even harder when a character is moving the wheel all over the place while driving straight. Just terrible direction
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I always giggle at scenes like that because it's blatantly obvious the actor isn't driving for real, especially when they're spending more time looking at the other passengers then the road.
 
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zroid

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this show is really boring :\

Of this season's new shows, I think it's my least favourite. Only reason I'm sticking with it is because I feel some weird sense of obligation as a fan of the Marvel movies/canon, and a vain hope that it will get better maybe.
 
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Jitters said:
HAHAHA YOU WANNA FIGHT ME BRO
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Boem

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Looks like there's a super villain from the comics coming into the show: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperheroStation/news/?a=91848

Some guy called
Blizzard. I don't read comics, so I don't know who he is, but according to wikipedia he's an enemy of Iron Man, and basically a dude with freezing powers
.

Still not sure if I should catch up on the last set of episodes. What I watched was just irritating. I might hold to see if they'll find their groove in the second half of the season.
 
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Mindwipe

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Boem said:
Looks like there's a super villain from the comics coming into the show: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperheroStation/news/?a=91848

Some guy called
Blizzard. I don't read comics, so I don't know who he is, but according to wikipedia he's an enemy of Iron Man, and basically a dude with freezing powers
.

Still not sure if I should catch up on the last set of episodes. What I watched was just irritating. I might hold to see if they'll find their groove in the second half of the season.
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To be blunt, you've already covered pretty much the entirety of his characterisation in forty years, so reading the comics wouldn't have contributed much.

He couldn't be closer to generic superpowered goon if you tried, which is presumably why Marvel are okay for him to become part of the AoS IP rather than keeping him for potential use in a film.
 
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Father_Brain

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FunnyBunny

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I thought the first five episodes were rough, but I caught up tonight. Happy to say I think the show its getting much, much better.

Still hokey at times, though.
 
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Extra Sauce

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TacticalFox88 said:
I wonder if this wasn't on ABC and instead on HBO and Cinemax, allowing for FAR more mature themes/graphic violence would it be better?
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It would be better in every way, but I'm not sure HBO would be interested in the first place.

Looking forward to the four Netflix Marvel shows. I imagine the quality will vary but one of them has to be great right? Throw enough crap at the wall...
 
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TacticalFox88 said:
I wonder if this wasn't on ABC and instead on HBO and Cinemax, allowing for FAR more mature themes/graphic violence would it be better?
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they burned somebody to a fucking crisp on like the 3rd episode. i don't think a lack of graphic violence (or mature themes) is the problem. SHIELD fails at the basics of a good show.
 
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TacticalFox88 said:
I wonder if this wasn't on ABC and instead on HBO and Cinemax, allowing for FAR more mature themes/graphic violence would it be better?
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Arrow seems more mature and its on the damn CW.

Problem is Disney wants a wide market audience instead of a specific demographic, so they won't push anything even if they can.
The show need to just go for it like other good/great current tv shows(Person of Interest, Arrow, Sleepy Hollow) even if that costs them a couple of general audience viewers that don't like or follow that type of thing.
 
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dead souls

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TacticalFox88 said:
I wonder if this wasn't on ABC and instead on HBO and Cinemax, allowing for FAR more mature themes/graphic violence would it be better?
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It wouldn't help a bit. There is no reason that there can't be an interesting PG-13 procedural set in the Marvel universe. This show just fails at pretty much every aspect of making quality television.
 
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TacticalFox88 said:
I wonder if this wasn't on ABC and instead on HBO and Cinemax, allowing for FAR more mature themes/graphic violence would it be better?
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If this actually managed to get on HBO to begin with, sure it'll be better, because HBO actually ensures that the showrunners are not talentless hacks without a creative bone in their body! :)
 
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TheOddOne

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Agents of Shield return today with a new episode:
Season 1: episode 11 "The Magical Place
[to poop]
"

Coulson uncovers vital information about the mystery of his death, but, with Centipede out for blood, this knowledge may come at the cost of one of the team.
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Vermillion

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duckroll said:
If this actually managed to get on HBO to begin with, sure it'll be better, because HBO actually ensures that the showrunners are not talentless hacks without a creative bone in their body! :)
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I mean, I watched a bit of Firefly the other day and it was pretty decent. Way better than this show, anyways.
 
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richiek

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'Agents of SHIELD': Clark Gregg promises 'The Magical Place' will satisfy fans

Like fans of the show, star Clark Gregg had to wait for months to finally discover what brought Coulson back from the dead. From "Agents of SHIELD's" pilot on, it's been clear that there was a dark mystery surrounding the character's returned life, and its resolution is one Gregg says fans will find "satisfying."

"People have been patient in really wanting to know the true nature of the secrets. ... We're going to get a big fat window at the real truth, and it's going to be very, very surprising," Gregg tells Zap2it. "When I read the sequence, I just stopped and put the script down and went 'Wow. That was worth waiting for.'"

Gregg explains that the secret of Coulson's death will have clear repercussions through the second half of Season 1. "The way our team has kind of turned the back half of this season into a reveal that uses the mystery of Coulson's death not just as a standalone reveal but as an integral part of the bigger reveal, which is that this organization Centipede, run by this person the Clairvoyant, has been part of almost everything we've done and connects on a deep level to everything going forward. [Centipede] is determined to destroy SHIELD and, to Coulson's chagrin, has some of the same questions about SHIELD that Coulson himself is starting to evolve," Gregg explains.

The slow-in-coming answer to Coulson's mystery has caused some frustration for fans, and Gregg admits that "it's time, d*** it" to reveal the truth about Coulson. From "The Magical Place" on, he says that "Agents of SHIELD" will pick up the pace through the end of Season 1.

"The fact that they've already managed to kind of make the reveal of what Coulson's doing alive [be] the one thing that the Clairvoyant wants is just part of the way the back half of this season is going to be -- more exciting and more satisfying than the first half of this season, where so much work had to be done to kind of set up this world of these people and this team, and all these separate pieces get kind of woven together," he says.
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Man, they better fucking deliver.
 
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TacticalFox88

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You know, if Greg isn't be hyperbolic, then that's a good sign that they were just using the first season to get the feet wet.

Is it a guarantee it'll be smooth badass episodes from here on out? Not necessarily. But it does inspire some hope.
 
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dead souls

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My first hate-watch of 2014 will be this episode tonight. I really wish the CW shows were back so I could just watch The Originals and save this turkey for when I'm extremely bored.
 
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DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Seems C4 in the UK have dropped showing it 3 days after the US, will keep an eye on this thread to see if it's worth continuing with when it does return.

Can't see a huge step-up happening though, the first half just felt so amateurish with no weight to anything.
 
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Father_Brain

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SPOILER: Coulson was boringly injected with a boring Super Awesome Magic Resurrection Drug that bears no particular resemblance to anything depicted in the films or comics, but that we're supposed to find exciting because it has something to do with the words "Chitauri," "super-soldier serum," "Asgardian," or "Extremis."
 
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Rafa=FedKilla

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Father_Brain said:
SPOILER: Coulson was boringly injected with a boring Super Awesome Magic Resurrection Drug that bears no particular resemblance to anything depicted in the films or comics, but that we're supposed to find exciting because it has something to do with the words "Chitauri," "super-soldier serum," "Asgardian," or "Extremis."
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Trust the system brah.
 
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DECK'ARD

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Father_Brain said:
SPOILER: Coulson was boringly injected with a boring Super Awesome Magic Resurrection Drug that bears no particular resemblance to anything depicted in the films or comics, but that we're supposed to find exciting because it has something to do with the words "Chitauri," "super-soldier serum," "Asgardian," or "Extremis."
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Please be excited.
 
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Father_Brain

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CBR has a new Q&A up with the other Whedon and Tancharoen, based on (fairly dull) fan questions. It's not as frustrating as that Jeffrey Bell interview from last month, but nor is it particularly encouraging.

Let's get right into it then with the first fan question, from Tonya J., who requests, "Please address the criticism swirling around if you would, as to "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. "not being or looking like a 'Marvel' show - perhaps discuss your vision and direction for the rest of Season 1."

Whedon: We are definitely a Marvel show. We double-checked with them just now and they told us so. But as to looking like a Marvel show -- there is always room to improve on every front, but I think some of the negativity toward our TV show comes with the fact that it is just that -- a TV show. Being held up against the Marvel films, which are the biggest, most exciting movies around. We're generating more content with a fraction of the budget in a fraction of the time, but each episode still has that Marvel flipbook at the top, and the expectation that comes with it, which is very high. And well-earned.

Tancharoen: We're all proud of what our entire team -- from writers to cast to crew -- puts on screen. And Marvel is heavily involved in the creative process. Our collective goal is to make a series that people enjoy watching every week. In one season we have the opportunity to tell 22 hours worth of story in the MCU. We've spent a lot of time in the early part of the season setting things up, laying foundation. As we approach the back half, some of this set up will pay off. This has been the plan from the start. A plan that consists of a respect for and synergy with the films.
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An even longer-tem question comes from R. Smith: "Has any of the criticism the show has received made an impact on how you intend to proceed with you two year plan?"

Tancharoen: As writers, we only aim to please. Or we aimed to please as children, which is why we became writers.

Whedon: When you're in a band and you play a song and the crowd goes to the bar to get a drink during that number, you don't play it again. So we won't keep doing things if people don't respond to them, and we take fan reaction into consideration, of course. However, we've always had a plan in place that all involved parties feel is both rewarding to those who already love the show, and to those who feel they are not getting everything they want out of it yet. But you can't please everyone, and when you don't, they seem to tweet at you.
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SquiddyCracker

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Father_Brain said:
SPOILER: Coulson was boringly injected with a boring Super Awesome Magic Resurrection Drug that bears no particular resemblance to anything depicted in the films or comics, but that we're supposed to find exciting because it has something to do with the words "Chitauri," "super-soldier serum," "Asgardian," or "Extremis."
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Sounds about right.
 
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Father_Brain said:
CBR has a new Q&A up with the other Whedon and Tancharoen, based on (fairly dull) fan questions. It's not as frustrating as that Jeffrey Bell interview from last month, but nor is it particularly encouraging.
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The problem with all of these interviews is that they show that these people don't get what's wrong with the show. Yes, it ought to be more serialized, but the problem with the show isn't that it's too episodic (though that's handled clumsily) - the X-Files was plenty episodic and was still brilliant. The issue is that the characters are boring and each individual episode is poorly written and unentertaining. Having a boring episode of TV turn out to lead into a later plot development doesn't make it into a good episode, and these writers fundamentally don't seem to understand that.
 
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