Funky Papa
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Coulson is sent to a SHIELD retirement home, Agent McAgent gets stuffed with an Asgardian spear, Melinda dies in a freak accident involving one of the bus' many engines. Then Maria steps in and the show can begin anew.
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. |OT| Tahiti is a Magical Place (to...Hey guys, I found it!)
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Coulson is sent to a SHIELD retirement home, Agent McAgent gets stuffed with an Asgardian spear, Melinda dies in a freak accident involving one of the bus' many engines. Then Maria steps in and the show can begin anew.
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Jest Chillin
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I think recurring rather than full time. With her position within SHIELD, I can't see her traveling with the team without making Coulson useless. Unless they make her someone that Coulson reports to directly via video confere like the General on Chuck.
Funky Papa
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George Oscar Bluth II
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Exactly what I was thinking.
and after reading some stuff on the upcoming guest roles, I just now find out, that Fitz and Simmons aren't siblings. I'm sure I should have caught on because everyone just calls each other by their last names, but the way they act, that's what it comes across as.
Took me 3 - 4 episodes to figure that out.
Duane Cunningham
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I rewatched Avengers this weekend and two things:
1. Cobie seems pretty sufficiently badass to me. Maybe it's because it's because I've never watched HIMYM at all.
2. Damn, Coulson got a demotion from hell, evidently. Without having seen the rest of the MCU movies since AoS until now, it's easy to forget how he was portrayed before. In Avengers, he seems like he's second in command under Fury, lateral to Maria.
1. Cobie seems pretty sufficiently badass to me. Maybe it's because it's because I've never watched HIMYM at all.
2. Damn, Coulson got a demotion from hell, evidently. Without having seen the rest of the MCU movies since AoS until now, it's easy to forget how he was portrayed before. In Avengers, he seems like he's second in command under Fury, lateral to Maria.
You forgot the part where skye gets back to her home planet and dies in the trip.
Really?
BrokenFiction
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I feel like the "demotion" is a plot point. Unless I'm remembering wrong, there's a reason for this, tied to the Tahiti plot line.
Jag
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It was pretty obvious that Tahiti was something planted in his mind after he 'died'. I just assumed that his demotion was because they weren't sure that the new Coulson would be competent to assume his former responsibilities.
Pai Pai Master
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Well it makes perfect sense. Coulson was the main point of contact and acted as a liason for the Avengers. Pretty sure if Fury sent him out there to brief Tony on something, there'd be an issue. I really, really don't think any of them would approve of what Fury did to Coulson, whatever the reason was.
Funky Papa
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I'm more interested in knowing why Fury took so much interest in Coulson as to rebuild his fucking brain while countless SHIELD mucks were left to die.
BrokenFiction
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Funky Papa
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I'm pretty sure robots were repairing his open noggin, so I'd say science. Then again, science and magic are one and the same in Asgard, so...
BlackNMild2k1
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I really hope they bring this up in a future movie when Coulson makes in inevitable return to the big screen
I'm a Nintendo guy, I love them, but they never do what seems to make the most sense.
Exactly what I was imagining, and maybe the occasional cameo out in the field.
George Oscar Bluth II
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That explains Sif appearance?
Funky Papa
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That's my guess.
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Jest Chillin
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It has nothing to do with budget. The show was always intended to be about a small team of non-powered characters. The demotion was the only way to make Coulson a part of the team and the fans really wanted to see Coulson return.
I don't see how it's a demotion. Before, he was sent to deal with people with powers and "objects of unknown origin." Now, he's still being sent to deal with people with powers and foreign objects. Same shit he was doing in Iron Man and Thor, only now he does it with a fancy plane and flying car and we know his crew's names.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Captain America The Winter Soldier or Avengers Age of Ultron would be a perfect time for Coulson to return. They will all see how dodgy S.H.I.E.L.D. can really be.
Jag
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Funny, the one thing that bothers me about SHIELD is it makes the current NSA look like boy scouts yet we are supposed to be rooting for them. They are the heroes of the show, yet they are also something we should fear if our current government is any indication how they can abuse power.
I know it's all comics and fantasy and I've been reading about SHIELD since the early 80s. But the real world parallels are a bit bothersome.
Weapxn
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Over the past two days, I caught up on the last three episodes. I had decided to quit watching the show for a bit, but I got bored and caught up. They were a huge improvement over the previous episodes, in my opinion, and I'm glad I watched them. I'm actually now excited to continue watching. There was a definite increase in quality.
Also, based on these recent casting announcements, it seems like the network knows people aren't happy with the show, and they're working on fixing that. The rest of the season should be interesting.
Also, based on these recent casting announcements, it seems like the network knows people aren't happy with the show, and they're working on fixing that. The rest of the season should be interesting.
badcrumble
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Yeah, I think the *why* of it is far more interesting than the how.
I wonder if there was something else (some sort of important intel, perhaps) in Coulson's brain that he needed.
Pai Pai Master
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SHIELD has definitely always sat in a really grey area. But for every Superhuman Registration Act, you have Nick Fury coming back to reveal the Skrull invasion plan and essentially saving the world. I think that's what makes them interesting - they may not always be reliable for many of the heroes we root for, but they have also done good. And whether you like them or not, they do have a hand in many of the things that go on.
It's up to the show/movies to effectively portray that, because other than the higher ups like Fury and Stark, we rarely get to see the story told from a perspective inside SHIELD.
Funky Papa
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Welliver is amazing, quite probably the best actor in this show. I hope they learned to exploit his almost natural scumminess. I like my SHIELD as dodgy as it can be.
NICE!
cant wait to DVR this episode
Rafa=FedKilla
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Sorry brah nobody did. Simmons would draw though....
Hope everyone is tuning into Jimmy Kimmel tonight.
Duane Cunningham
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Wow, I didn't know that Clark Gregg is married to Jennifer Grey.
Nice. A show with just Coulson, Sitwell and Blake as the leads would probably make a better series.
Would also love to see this show write in a Lizzy Caplan cameo.
Father_Brain
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Full transcript of ABC's Paul Lee's comments on SHIELD, Agent Carter, and Marvel in general from the TCAs a few days back:
He's saying a lot of the right things, and the last episode was a reasonably promising start to the back half of the season, but we'll see.
Also, reading between the lines, it sounds like ABC isn't currently interested in any Marvel projects that don't spin directly out of the films. Seems pretty short-sighted, but hopefully the Netflix series will deliver on that front.
He's saying a lot of the right things, and the last episode was a reasonably promising start to the back half of the season, but we'll see.
Also, reading between the lines, it sounds like ABC isn't currently interested in any Marvel projects that don't spin directly out of the films. Seems pretty short-sighted, but hopefully the Netflix series will deliver on that front.
Funky Papa
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I have the feeling Netflix is going to be the savior of of Marvel's TV efforts.
Cornballer
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Yup, Agents of Shield is off until February 4th.
TV scheduling is so stupid
Father_Brain
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It's really strange how Lee seems to think that appealing to a broad audience and appealing to comic book fans are mutually exclusive, as though Marvel Studios' success hasn't proven otherwise. I wonder whether he's just as much to blame for the dearth of canon Marvel characters/elements on SHIELD thus far as the Studios crew, or even more so.
They don't want fanservice, I think. (Which I agree with. Treat everything like an origin, not an easter egg.) Also, ABC wants a certain "type" of show on air.
Father_Brain
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If you only associate the use of more actual Marvel characters/elements with fanservice and easter eggs, you should dream a little bigger.
eastx
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Definitely. And clearly people who watch the show or used to watch it want more Marvel elements, not the the same amount (or less than) they've shown so far.
Funky Papa
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I just watched Item 47 and Agent Carter one shots for the first time. Not only they were good, but probably even more fun than most movies set in the MCU. I wish AoS could capture the wonderful atmosphere of those "minis".
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