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fallengorn

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The mystery over the Clairvoyant has been handled pretty poorly.

-A few of the Centipede uppity-ups say his moniker in hushed tones. It might make you slightly curious, but it doesn't particularly make you invested.

-It seemed like he used the same sonic device from Iron Man. That's not too surprising since Centipede itself is cobbled together technology throughout the MCU.

-Quinn mentions his name. That says more about Quinn than it does the Clairvoyant.
 
I think the fact that The Clairvoyant has been revealed to be behind nearly every mission the team has embarked on is a great way of generainf intrigue behind who he is and what his ultimate plans are. With the reveal that he was involved with the Billionaire who funded the experiment that ended up creating Graviton, I know wonder if he was involved in some way with the group who searched out the staff from the Thor 2 tie in episode as well. Pretty much the only case I couldn't see him having a hand in, in some way is the firefighters case.
 

kirblar

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I think the fact that The Clairvoyant has been revealed to be behind nearly every mission the team has embarked on is a great way of generainf intrigue behind who he is and what his ultimate plans are. With the reveal that he was involved with the Billionaire who funded the experiment that ended up creating Graviton, I know wonder if he was involved in some way with the group who searched out the staff from the Thor 2 tie in episode as well. Pretty much the only case I couldn't see him having a hand in, in some way is the firefighters case.
The problem is that like many other elements of the show so far (Skye,Coulson), its just the writers going "look a mystery" without giving the audience a reason to be interested in that mystery.
 
The problem is that like many other elements of the show so far (Skye,Coulson), its just the writers going "look a mystery" without giving the audience a reason to be interested in that mystery.

The previously-considered-standalone episodes are the reason to be interested. As they're no longer stand alone, a viewer should be thinking "What was The Clairevoyant trying to achieve with that?" However I feel like if the viewer had already written the show off, of course they wouldn't care. A lot of people got turned off early when it didn't meet their expectations and then watched episodes in a tuned out manner. So for them, I'd fully expect a lack of interest. For those that watched the show and weren't turned off early, there should be plenty of investment and thus interest.
 
I'm not familiar with the comics, but does Spider-Woman websling too?

Spider-Woman is nothing like Spider-Man from what I've read. I've never read one of her comics either.

This is her Powers and Abilities from the Marvel wiki

Powers said:
Jessica possesses superhuman strength (can lift at least up to 7 tons), endurance and speed. She can focus her bioelectric energy into "venom blasts" sufficient to stun or kill normal humans, and she can also adhere to almost any surface. Jessica rapidly forms an immunity to all poisons and drugs, and is totally immune to radiation. Her metabolism generates pheromones which attract human males while repulsing females, though she uses a chemical "perfume" that can nullify this effect. Jessica has lost and regained her powers more than once, but has recently emerged with her powers restored greater than ever.
Abilities said:
Jessica is an experienced fighter and excellent investigator.
More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-Woman_(Jessica_Drew)#ixzz2qirTkB6G

She can also fly, but I expect them to nerf a few of those abilities at first, assuming that is who she is of course.
 

XAL

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Which would mean that Skye is likely Jessica Drew aka Spider-Woman afterall.

Isle of Skye

"The island has been occupied since the Mesolithic period and its history includes a time of Norse rule and a long period of domination by Clan MacLeod and Clan Donald."

Skye is a chinese duncan macleod asgardian enchantress!
 

enzo_gt

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I just caught up on this show after abandoning it at about episode 4 and I gotta say I'm enjoying it a lot more.

The storylines have developed to the point where they have progress, there are meaningful interactions between members and dynamic relationships (sorta..). Twists within episodes are decent. I mean, I would still have to put a disclaimer before I recommend it to anyone, but it's alright. Maybe I've become so accustomed to it but the acting seems a few notches better in episodes 7-10 or so as well.

I'm psychologically unable to give a shit about the identity of the Clairvoyant.

Am I alone?
I mean, I'm curious, but they do seem to have been shifting or at least directing where we are supposed to focus attention on as far as the antagonists go quite a lot to the point where it was even hard to give a shit about Centipede. I imagine them just inventing another company to place above the Clairvoyant and then repeat.

EDIT: Also thank god there is no more forced sexual tension between Ward and Skye.
 

neoanarch

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Wait what? How does this point towards the High Evolutionary?

I'm guessing because the High Evolutionary has the power of Clairvoyance and has a relation to Jessica Drew

Its plausible as he was involved in Jessica Drew's origins as well as Wanda and Pietros. As well as getting his advanced knowledge on gene manipulation from the Inhumans. Wanda, Pietro and the Inhumans already being confirmed for the MCU. If the Jessica Drew/Skye theory turns out to be true then its another point in favor of that theory.
 
Assuming that Skye or the Clairvoyant will turn out to be a recognizable comics character is setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm not saying it won't happen, of course, but FFS, this is a SHIELD show that has to make up a new evil organization and can't even use HYDRA as a villain, likely for no other reason than that the films haven't yet established that they're still around in the present day. Best to keep expectations low.
 
Assuming that Skye or the Clairvoyant will turn out to be a recognizable comics character is setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm not saying it won't happen, of course, but FFS, this is a SHIELD show that has to make up a new evil organization and can't even use HYDRA as a villain, likely for no other reason than that the films haven't yet established that they're still around in the present day. Best to keep expectations low.

If that stuff gets established in Captain America: The Winter Soldier (releasing April 4) and they go for the same two-week time lag for their "tie-in" episode that they had for Thor 2, they could very plausibly make the season finale of the show about the aftermath of the conspiracies within SHIELD and/or establish that Centipede, like the villains in Cap 2 (lol probably), was actually a HYDRA op all along.

Which would kinda let Captain America 2 make this entire show sort of entirely redundant as far as plot is concerned, heh.
 
Assuming that Skye or the Clairvoyant will turn out to be a recognizable comics character is setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm not saying it won't happen, of course, but FFS, this is a SHIELD show that has to make up a new evil organization and can't even use HYDRA as a villain, likely for no other reason than that the films haven't yet established that they're still around in the present day. Best to keep expectations low.

I will eventually find the quote from someone involved in the show or works for Marvel that stated Skye was an existing Marvel Character. I wasn't the only one that saw it.

And this show crisscrossing plots with Capt. America 2 doesn't make it redundant, I think that makes it relevant. There is no better idea for a crossover episode than one that is directly addressed in the movies and continues on TV. And Centipede could still be tied to HYDRA or AIM.

I think Capt. America 2 will open up a few plot lines for AoS s2 to explore. kinda loosen that noose around it's available material a little bit.
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I bet my left nut the Clairvoyant is going to be some new, incredibly forgetable character created ex professo for the show.

Marvel is juggling a lot of balls with the Phase 2 and Phase 3 movies, not to mention Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Iron Fist's TV shows, which are firmly grounded in the MCU and WILL require to use a good number of A, B and C listers. Keeping a common visual identity could also be problematic in the event of recurring characters and armies; even if they bring faceles enemies such as AIM and Hydra to the table, there's a chance a TV show like AoS wouldn't have the budget to use the same uniforms and props as the movies.

Unless something changes, AoS seems condemned to create its own shitty villains forever and ever.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Assuming that Skye or the Clairvoyant will turn out to be a recognizable comics character is setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm not saying it won't happen, of course, but FFS, this is a SHIELD show that has to make up a new evil organization and can't even use HYDRA as a villain, likely for no other reason than that the films haven't yet established that they're still around in the present day. Best to keep expectations low.

I mean, we've already had a couple characters that are versions of recognizable comic characters, like Victoria Hand and Graviton, so I don't know why you're acting like it would be unheard of.
 
If that stuff gets established in Captain America: The Winter Soldier (releasing April 4) and they go for the same two-week time lag for their "tie-in" episode that they had for Thor 2, they could very plausibly make the season finale of the show about the aftermath of the conspiracies within SHIELD and/or establish that Centipede, like the villains in Cap 2 (lol probably), was actually a HYDRA op all along.

Which would kinda let Captain America 2 make this entire show sort of entirely redundant as far as plot is concerned, heh.

Haha, I can actually see this happening if TWS goes in that direction.

I will eventually find the quote from someone involved in the show or works for Marvel that stated Skye was an existing Marvel Character. I wasn't the only one that saw it.

And this show crisscrossing plots with Capt. America 2 doesn't make it redundant, I think that makes it relevant. There is no better idea for a crossover episode than one that is directly addressed in the movies and continues on TV. And Centipede could still be tied to HYDRA or AIM.

I think Capt. America 2 will open up a few plot lines for AoS s2 to explore. kinda loosen that noose around it's available material a little bit.

As I said above, I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Twitter rumormonger Roger Wardell, not anyone directly involved with the show. But correct me if I'm wrong.

And I certainly hope you're right about S2. This last episode felt like a significant improvement, at least.

I mean, we've already had a couple characters that are versions of recognizable comic characters, like Victoria Hand and Graviton, so I don't know why you're acting like it would be unheard of.

Unheard of, no. Just not something I would bet on given the episodes to date, but I certainly wouldn't mind being wrong!
 

mjc

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What Marvel needs to do is have key players from the movies show up in an episode or two. Likewise make the team cameo (even just a tiny bit) in one movie. Having Fury pop in a couple times has been cool, and the show needs more of that.
 
As I said above, I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Twitter rumormonger Roger Wardell, not anyone directly involved with the show. But correct me if I'm wrong.

You're correct. It was first mentioned in this thread with this post.

It's also the last tweet from the twitter account linked in that post, while there's another Roger Wardell account that's been tweeting more recently. What that means I have no idea, but there it is.
 

anaron

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What Marvel needs to do is have key players from the movies show up in an episode or two. Likewise make the team cameo (even just a tiny bit) in one movie. Having Fury pop in a couple times has been cool, and the show needs more of that.

Why they haven't gotten Pepper to cameo yet is so disappointing. I'm dyin for some tears!
 
You're correct. It was first mentioned in this thread with this post.

It's also the last tweet from the twitter account linked in that post, while there's another Roger Wardell account that's been tweeting more recently. What that means I have no idea, but there it is.

Oh, well I don't really know who Roger Wardell is outside of he was a "known" insider or something, but if the new 2nd account you are referring to in Roger Wardell 2, then that is a fake account.

So do we take what he says with spoon fills salt? Does he have a good track record? Or has he been debunked already?
 

Toa TAK

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Last couple of episodes were pretty good for this series.

The brain thing was crazy, though.

And what was up with the last episode where things got really sad with McCreary's score and it all went dark and shit.

Not to say I didn't like it, but it was kinda funny after all the corny jokes and more lighthearted feel of the episode.

And new super villain?
That we'll never see done in the show properly.
 
Oh, well I don't really know who Roger Wardell is outside of he was a "known" insider or something, but if the new 2nd account you are referring to in Roger Wardell 2, then that is a fake account.

So do we take what he says with spoon fills salt? Does he have a good track record? Or has he been debunked already?

He's been right on some stuff and wrong on other stuff. Quite a few people feel like his sources are dubious at best. So grain of salt would be best but there's always the possibility that Skye will turn out to be someone who is known. And that statement is just vague enough that it doesn't matter who it is for him to be correct.
 

Jitters

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Has anyone post a source to the "Skye is a known character" comment?
 
The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Facebook account says to keep an eye on Twitter this week for a big announcement. Can't be Sif, they already announced her on Twitter. We know about Bill Paxton. I wonder what it could be...
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I love Cobie, but she's one of Marvel's rare miscasts. Maria Hill is a hardass who's willing to wreck shit up and command front line troops by herself if things come to that. Cobie is way too Canadian sweet looking and mild mannered to portray her.
 

Slayven

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I love Cobie, but she's one of Marvel's rare miscasts. Maria Hill is a hardass who's willing to wreck shit up and command front line troops by herself if things come to that. Cobie is way too Canadian sweet looking and mild mannered to portray her.

She totally could be Vindicator.
 
It's why it won't happen. Because it would make sense.

This is Marvel we're talking about here, not Nintendo.
They have already expressed interest about adding Cobie aka Agent Maria Hill as a regular if her schedule had allowed it. Soon her schedule will, and she will need something to do between Capt. America and Avengers movies. Agents if SHIELD will be a steady gig, and will likely be a better show with her on it.
 

SRG01

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This is Marvel we're talking about here, not Nintendo.
They have already expressed interest about adding Cobie aka Agent Maria Hill as a regular if her schedule had allowed it. Soon her schedule will, and she will need something to do between Capt. America and Avengers movies. Agents if SHIELD will be a steady gig, and will likely be a better show with her on it.

If she's going to be a regular on the show, could they really support another full-time cast member?
 
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