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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S3 |OT| Earthquakes Make Me Daisy - Tuesdays 9/8c
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That's AoS having a tie-in with Marvel films, not the other way round.
The Marvel shows are basically friendzoned by the movies.
Gentle Rodriguez
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We'll probably see Daisy for like 3 seconds during Infinity War so rejoice!
Nostremitus
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Just got to watch the latest..... holy shit...
Pretty dissappointed at the ending though, would have liked for
But... oh well.
Pretty dissappointed at the ending though, would have liked for
A) Ward to stay dead B)Lash becomes Hydra's new "death."
But... oh well.
Thatonemoor
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But Mack cut Coulson's hand off.
Shuggananas
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EscoBlades
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Dubbedinenglish
Banned
This. Even more Fitz's courting revolves around a sort of captor/captive relationship. He's been surrounding her nearly every day because of their job, being territorial around other guys that get close to her. Everyone around them is also pushing this relationship one sidedly because of Fitz's brain damage. The only times she's been able to get away from him is being a double agent and being trapped on an alien planet.
Even more hilarious is he suddenly learned how to fight. Guy was a complete coward through and through, and now he's the trying to fight Ward and fighting infected Will. Simmonds is actually plausible, showing that mean streak to evil Ward early on and having to fight to survive on the planet.
Felt bad so he gave Ward a handout.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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Ward never gonna die lol, love it
What if he uses it to jack off with?
Simmons did say that her and Will thought that it felt like the entity had lost its power and it had been the one who caused the desolation.
but who knows, at the end it just looked like a mind control slug
i have no idea what its supposed to be
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Uh, what show are you watching? The whole dynamic post-rescue between her and fitz was due to how conflicted and guilty she was over having similar feelings for both of them.
Zeouterlimits
Member
He should use the fist to crush Coulson's chest. Or some other character we actually like.
Ovek
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I think it was the tip of a tentacle instead of a slug.
Of course its a living Hydra logo attached to his brain. Why wouldn't it be at this point
Maybe Wills body was to far gone to magically "heal".
We had the confession in season 1 with a rejection despite at the apparent end of their lives. Everuthing further was her trying to be sensible and not to hurt Fitz worse by rubbing it in.
She really likes him. As a friend, as the best friend, as brother.
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They can use it to kill off half the cast if they need to do budget cuts
Clearly that changed over the course of season 2 though. She does have feelings for him but unfortunately hot spirited away.
And Fitz has grown so much in the way he deals with the whole situation. He was so obviously antagonistic when Tripp was first around and was unable to process his feelings and not let them make him wary and angry with Tripp. Now he's willing to help Simmons because he knows that's the right thing to do, even though he's jealous and mad as hell.
Season one Fitz might not have helped Tripp if they were in the same situation.
Of course its a living Hydra logo attached to his brain. Why wouldn't it be at this point
And HYDRA employees only get to see one type of movie.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I don't understand how someone can think this having seen every episode this season. It's straight up untenable, given the actual content of the show. The show went out of its way to clearly and obviously show how Simmons' realized her feelings for Fitz were skewing romantic starting with them making dinner plans at the end of season 2. It's only been reinforced by the events of this season, with her monologues on the alien planet to/about Fitz and imagining their date and all the stuff that happened after.
Like, I dunno, if "shipper denial" is a thing when people are dead set against an obvious couple in a show getting together because they want one of the characters to be with someone else, but the writing of the show is pretty unambiguous here.
Clearly during Season One, they were not intended to become a couple. Since then the writers changed their minds (due to fan demand, internal shifts, or, hell, just changing their minds) and now it's one of those romantic-but-complicated things.
They're an awful couple for many, many reasons, but the "Simmons isn't interested" bit just isn't accurate anymore.
They're an awful couple for many, many reasons, but the "Simmons isn't interested" bit just isn't accurate anymore.
Well, with Will dead there isn't much left I could shil either with. Maybe Coulsons hand. So it's not that. I am not a fan of women as objects, as goals to be earned and quite enjoyed that they subverted that in the season 1 finale. Like, that goes beyound media where guys think they have the right to anything but thankfulness when giving stuff to women or doing her favours.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
So those are the only two options? Either a woman has romantic feelings for a dude immediately or she never does, otherwise it's some kind of illegitimate "he earned her love by being a swell guy" thing? I kind of hate how the whole "friendzone" nonsense has sort of poisoned the discussion, because it makes people inherently dismiss the idea that people's feeling do, you know, change. Romantic relationships do sprout out of friendships in real life, and it's not because of some simple trite "he's such a nice guy!" nonsense. People change and grow and sometimes people who didn't have those sorts of feelings for each other develop them down the line. I feel like some people will NEVER be happy with seeing that happen in fiction due to how prevalent the whole friendzone (and friendzone backlash) has become, and that's a shame because it can be compelling drama if it's not immediately dismissed by the current zeitgeist.
I think a big part of what makes people get iffy about the prospect of FitzSimmons in a loving relationship is that the actors don't have that type of chemistry with each other. Jed Whedon and DJ Doyle even mentioned that when their kiss scene was going to be filmed both De Caestecker and Henstridge were all "lol this is weird, it's like kissing your sibling".
The same goes for Daisy and Lincoln to an extent, and the opposite is the reason why Coulson and Rosalind were embraced super quickly, with people constantly saying "get a room" in every scene they appeared together basically from the start.
Unfortunately there's not much that can be done from a writing perspective when the actors just don't have that kind of vibe, even if it's made clear that the characters have feelings for each other.
The same goes for Daisy and Lincoln to an extent, and the opposite is the reason why Coulson and Rosalind were embraced super quickly, with people constantly saying "get a room" in every scene they appeared together basically from the start.
Unfortunately there's not much that can be done from a writing perspective when the actors just don't have that kind of vibe, even if it's made clear that the characters have feelings for each other.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I dunno, I agree that fitz and simmons don't have great chemistry, but it's really not that bad and they are both good enough actors that I can get over it. Daisy and Lincoln is just lol.
Yeah, I'm not against the relationship growing that way between them either and the fact that they are two of the best actors in the show definitely helps. I do think that it's past time it gets "resolved" one way or another though, we'll see where it goes in the next half of the season.
Shuggananas
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They're probably setting up lincoln's death at this point, probably at the hands of lash, and then she'll go rogue
I got my bets on Quake killing Lincoln by accident.
I'm still on the idea that both Fitz and Simmons will come to the realisation that although they clearly feel unconditional love, physical intimacy is still awkward as hell and finally admit that their feelings are misinterpreted family / siblings love.
Daisy was good in that last scene, I think our disbelief comes down to the character (actor?) of Lincoln.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Electric-type pokemon do usually get 1-shot by earthquake.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Eh, that would kind of feel like a cop-out to me, like they just backpedaled on their current direction due to the backlash of people who aren't happy with the idea of the characters hooking up.
I think it's less of an issue of him being a bad actor, and just that their relationship in general really hasn't developed/panned-out in a terribly convincing, earned way. That would fall more on the writing/direction, I guess.
Gentle Rodriguez
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As much as I'd love that, we'd have to suffer through an awful arc after it that basically goes like this:
"My powers are dangerous I will never use them again"
"My friends are in danger I have to use my powers"
"I guess I will use my powers again"
And we already went through that once.
He probably learned this from over the summer when he was trekking the globe researching how to get Simmons back. Remember in the first episode of this season when he was all Secret Agent Fitz mode?
super-famicom
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Ayyyy
Shuggananas
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half of his posts use it rofl, and they redirect to some weird shit too