Napoleonthechimp
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It isn't just physical looks, it's that they've seemingly changed the character. Why even bother pulling him from the comics if you're not going to bother doing it right?
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S3 |OT| Earthquakes Make Me Daisy - Tuesdays 9/8c
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Hannibal kept dodging kills and shifting them to other characters, but yeah if season 4 rolled around they would've had to off at least Alana and Lounds probably.It's the same problem Hannibal ran into re: women- they kept gender-swapping all the male parts, only to run into an issue where all the future victims were now women. Kind of unavoidable given the genre here.
I still think Hunter should suffer for his immense stupidity, but so should Ward for not just tell everyone what these agents look like. The second one is just awful writing at work but still.
He doesn't even have to tell all of his troops what the enemy looks like, I'm surprised no one ever took a picture of him and showed it to Ward. You'd think the Director of a major intelligence organization would want to know what his agents look like before a major operation.
If Andrew really did not die, then I believe he might been a member of HYDRA all along.
Belonging to a different faction than Ward's nu-HYDRA. Working from inside, gathering information on SHIELD & Inhumans, etc.
And now thanks to Ward/Strucker Jr.'s mess of a plan, he had to fake his own death...
Belonging to a different faction than Ward's nu-HYDRA. Working from inside, gathering information on SHIELD & Inhumans, etc.
And now thanks to Ward/Strucker Jr.'s mess of a plan, he had to fake his own death...
Napoleonthechimp
Member
I was hoping they'd kill Andrew just so I could see how the relationship between Hunter and May turns out.
I was hoping they'd kill Andrew just so I could see how the relationship between Hunter and May turns out.
Either way, it was a supreme asshole move. He was willing sacrifice Andrew for his own vengeance against Ward for almost killing someone he loved.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Turns out Andrew was part of the brood.
Ooh, ooh, what if it was just a warwolf wearing Andrew's skin this whole time?
Either way, it was a supreme asshole move. He was willing sacrifice Andrew for his own vengeance against Ward for almost killing someone he loved.
That was probably his driving motivation, but there was still all those weapons...
Either way, it was a supreme asshole move. He was willing sacrifice Andrew for his own vengeance against Ward for almost killing someone he loved.
Why would you trust Ward though?
Napoleonthechimp
Member
Either way, it was a supreme asshole move. He was willing sacrifice Andrew for his own vengeance against Ward for almost killing someone he loved.
That's what I'm saying. How would their relationship turn out if Andrew died as a result of Hunter's assholeishness (and he still failed in his attempt to kill Ward).
Palette Swap
Member
To be fair, there was no reason to believe Ward was going to spare Andrew anyway. The guy's a complete psychopath.
Still, it was pretty apparent from his reaction that Hunter wasn't considering this when he chose to act.
Still, it was pretty apparent from his reaction that Hunter wasn't considering this when he chose to act.
Good episode again
- "Oh man, I had to jinx it" I'm really liking the Daisy/Mack pairing
- Hunter going in alone was pretty dumb. Still, Ward's face after seeing May arrive on the scene was amazing.
- "Be careful, it has laser fingers"
- "Does it have laserfingers?" "That's classified" That Phil and Rosalind tension. I like this eny-mance.
- Lash transforming into a human is surprising.
- Killing off Andrew and not showing his dead body... and a distraught Werner? Yeah, Andrew is Inhuman. But not Lash. Wonder what his power will be.
- Simmons spilling the beans. Aww yiisss.
As for Lash, we'll get a Whedon-like twist. You know this will happen.
- "Oh man, I had to jinx it" I'm really liking the Daisy/Mack pairing
- Hunter going in alone was pretty dumb. Still, Ward's face after seeing May arrive on the scene was amazing.
- "Be careful, it has laser fingers"
- "Does it have laserfingers?" "That's classified" That Phil and Rosalind tension. I like this eny-mance.
- Lash transforming into a human is surprising.
- Killing off Andrew and not showing his dead body... and a distraught Werner? Yeah, Andrew is Inhuman. But not Lash. Wonder what his power will be.
- Simmons spilling the beans. Aww yiisss.
As for Lash, we'll get a Whedon-like twist. You know this will happen.
Hours Left
Member
Another thing about Andrew being alive/Lash is that Werner was alone when he ran out of the building when it exploded. Perhaps the rest of the Hydra agents got zapped.
I think he's going to be coming back. The actor keeps tweeting about SHIELD every week so I think he's involved more than just a one off guest spot.So is that Joey guy actually going to be a part of the story or is he just going to be a one-off character we never hear from again?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
"Remember: best behavior."
Yup. Baldie is Lash.
Yup. Baldie is Lash.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Judging by the shadow Lash seemed like a pretty short dude. I *think* bald too
The shadow isn't going to be a good clue, as it was CGI and not meant to be an outline of anyone really specific.
I think Lash is actually an Inhuman Failsafe that activates to get rid of the ones that would be too powerful.
This doesn't make sense at all... "Super Soldier" Ward and his whole organisation were more or less destroyed by Lance and May alone ? Didn't even need any kind of Backuo lol
Yeah I know Ward won't survive this season but his display of abilities this episode was quite different from what he has shown in the past.
The inhuman/Daisy plot is getting more interesting though.
Yeah I know Ward won't survive this season but his display of abilities this episode was quite different from what he has shown in the past.
The inhuman/Daisy plot is getting more interesting though.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I think Simmons is Lash
This would make no sense at all. Simmons has her own storyline going on.
This doesn't make sense at all... "Super Soldier" Ward and his whole organisation were more or less destroyed by Lance and May alone ? Didn't even need any kind of Backuo lol
Yeah I know Ward won't survive this season but his display of abilities this episode was quite different from what he has shown in the past.
The inhuman/Daisy plot is getting more interesting though.
You have to remember that way back in episode one, Ward was presented in both action and words as a complete fucking badass.
He was initially presented as our surrogate into SHIELD.
It's genius storytelling, really. The perceived main character is the main villain. Much more well done than in Dollhouse.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Man Mack has horrible chemistry with Daisy. Horrible acting in general but seriously depressing me.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Man Mack has horrible chemistry with Daisy. Horrible acting in general but seriously depressing me.
I'd really like Mack to be Lash, but he can't be. I hope they bring up Mack being a Kree Attack Dog again in some meaningful way.
He is was rercuiting methheads and buying guns of randoms. Of course his shotgun shack Hydra failed.This doesn't make sense at all... "Super Soldier" Ward and his whole organisation were more or less destroyed by Lance and May alone ? Didn't even need any kind of Backuo lol
Yeah I know Ward won't survive this season but his display of abilities this episode was quite different from what he has shown in the past.
The inhuman/Daisy plot is getting more interesting though.
Man Mack has horrible chemistry with Daisy. Horrible acting in general but seriously depressing me.
His acting is swoll all the time, and no range.
This would make no sense at all. Simmons has her own storyline going on.
You have to remember that way back in episode one, Ward was presented in both action and words as a complete fucking badass.
He was initially presented as our surrogate into SHIELD.
It's genius storytelling, really. The perceived main character is the main villain. Much more well done than in Dollhouse.
When was Echo the villain in Dollhouse?
Honestly Skye was always the main, the flip they did with Ward was fantastic, but it was always Skye's show.This would make no sense at all. Simmons has her own storyline going on.
You have to remember that way back in episode one, Ward was presented in both action and words as a complete fucking badass.
He was initially presented as our surrogate into SHIELD.
It's genius storytelling, really. The perceived main character is the main villain. Much more well done than in Dollhouse.
Also it feels like they aren't sure what to do with Ward dudes just kinda there right now.
Honestly Skye was always the main, the flip they did with Ward was fantastic, but it was always Skye's show.
Also it feels like they aren't sure what to do with Ward dudes just kinda there right now.
Ward doesn't even know what to do with Ward
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
When was Echo the villain in Dollhouse?
I meant with Harold Bloom's character. He was a main.
Honestly Skye was always the main, the flip they did with Ward was fantastic, but it was always Skye's show.
Also it feels like they aren't sure what to do with Ward dudes just kinda there right now.
They clearly set Ward up as the protagonist early, though. It became Skye's show later.
That's what I'm saying. How would their relationship turn out if Andrew died as a result of Hunter's assholeishness (and he still failed in his attempt to kill Ward).
I don't think it matters too much either way, Hunter still made that decision after dragging May out of retirement and into this mess. There should still be significant fallout from this but yea, it's going to be overshadowed by whatever explanation there will be for Andrew not being dead.
Man Mack has horrible chemistry with Daisy. Horrible acting in general but seriously depressing me.
Dude has an amazing voice though and I like his character as a mechanic reluctantly shoved in this new role. He was good with Fitz last season too.
I meant with Harold Bloom's character. He was a main.
You mean Harry Lennix?
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Pizza delivery for Pablo Jimenez?
Trump 2016
Jimenez is an inhuman pizza eater..
mugurumakensei
Member
Ward is lash.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
You mean Harry Lennix?
You mean Red Reddington's name is actually James Spader?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Yeah, Andrew going that fast and in that way.... that was just a fucking sloppily written scene.
Obliterator
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Also it feels like they aren't sure what to do with Ward dudes just kinda there right now.
Yeah Wards arc this season so far sucks, which is a bummer because I like the character. His story is just sort of.....there. Also why do I keep seeing people say Ward is dying this season? Is there evidence of this or something or just fan theory?
Also you guys are crazy Mack is one of the best characters on the show
Writers are playing the long game with Fitz who has been a skrull the entire series sent to control Lash an asset gone wild.Boom. Lash is an immortal sleeper agent placed on earth by the skrulls to be activated if the inhuman scourge popped back up. But over the years of traveling and offing any in humans he detects he develops a conscience ad his programming erodes to the point at which he developed a separate personality Andrew who manifests as his human form.The massive influx of new inhumans reactivates Lash which causes Andrew to leave May and undergo memory alteration to forget what he is. This is why he didn't kill Daisy since even in his Lash persona he feels an attachment to her. Fitz has been searching for Lash to put him down but he can't accurately track Lash because of Daisy's throbbing inhuman energy masking his signature.Fitz is lash
lol bro
Ward needs a modern day version of his own Howling Commandos. Four or five regular guys and gals who are decent in a combat situation along with the expendables.
Because when it takes only two people to take down your base and have you limping to the back of
a Toyota Pick-up, I think something failed.
Because when it takes only two people to take down your base and have you limping to the back of
The official car of ISIS
Another thing about Andrew being alive/Lash is that Werner was alone when he ran out of the building when it exploded. Perhaps the rest of the Hydra agents got zapped.
Also the way everything was placed in that scene with the blood was really sloppy. Unless Andrew fought off everyone except the seemingly weakest person there, got fucked up and was just left there there's no way he's dead.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Ward's people seem to be very loyal but very dumb thugs.
I love how Ward has this grand plan to make Hydra anything more than a random terrorist cell.
Yeah he does need some tough dudes to go with the mooks. Or at least a cooler hideout, even some alien tech would help.Ward needs a modern day version of his own Howling Commandos. Four or five regular guys and gals who are decent in a combat situation along with the expendables.
Because when it takes only two people to take down your base and have you limping to the back ofa Toyota Pick-up, I think something failed.The official car of ISIS
Plz someone save Ward from the trash heap.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Ward's storyline is just...tragic. Hunter is dumb as rocks.
They need to do something with him cause fuuuuck he's boring as shit through and through. His character is basically "make stupid quip", "aim weapon at baddie", "get tossed around like a ragdoll because get it? Muscle guy getting tossed around easily!", "make quip about what it felt like hit him when he wakes up".
For real.
I'd really like Mack to be Lash, but he can't be. I hope they bring up Mack being a Kree Attack Dog again in some meaningful way.
They need to do something with him cause fuuuuck he's boring as shit through and through. His character is basically "make stupid quip", "aim weapon at baddie", "get tossed around like a ragdoll because get it? Muscle guy getting tossed around easily!", "make quip about what it felt like hit him when he wakes up".
His acting is swoll all the time, and no range.
For real.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Werner is his only ace, and he's only there for name recognition.