NeOak
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TIL that BB has an English dub. :|
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Aksys has no plans to dub BlazBlue Central Fiction [Petition Added to OP]
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Also, I would donate begrudgingly as they phrased it as a matter of time than money. But then ruling out DLC down the line if all they need is 'time'
but I would donate if it would guarantee a dub.
Seriously, this one has pissed me off far more than I would if it were any other game. No Dub in a series that is new, I'd be fine with.
But in the finale of Ragna's story, with the great english voice cast that makes it all so memorable?
That is what pisses me off so much. Like someone said, it's like changing the voice cast for the final season of an anime or something similar.
The problem with the DLC angle is the chance they'd break even or make money on that DLC has got to be minuscule to nonexistent. Specially if it comes out 6-8 months after the game releases. Many people who says they'd buy it would have probably moved on by then.
That being said, I'd pay a decent amount for that DLC even if it took 8 months to come out.
That being said, I'd pay a decent amount for that DLC even if it took 8 months to come out.
tintin1029
Member
I'll just post what I posted in the last thread:
Same here. I'd gladly wait for the English dub.
Gai Murakumo
Member
Sad about no dub since it really was not that bad. But in the end Japanese voice acting usually has more emotion to it in my opinion.
Bob Coffee
Member
this is like the twilight zone(aksys thread complaining about dubs, atlus threads complaining about lack of jp audio/sub lulz). i respect that there are people who like and enjoy the blazblue dub, but i would gladly take no dub over getting the fighting game at or very close to jpn release. fighting games are ultimately about 1 vs 1 fighting, and the closer to the jpn release is, the better in terms of community and actually finding matches online for a lengthy amount of time. in Aksys position i think they made the right call, and if it pisses off the fan base enough id say they should release the dub track later as dlc, but get the game out asap, so those who play the game as a fighting game can dig in. This also makes me wonder if there dropping the english battle voices? or just not dubbing the vn portions?
cj_iwakura
Member
It will have no dub whatsoever. Meaning we won't have any idea what's being said in battle.
family_guy
Member
Their decision isn't about getting the game sooner to fans, it's about getting money to their pockets faster.
CommandThrower
Member
On one hand, it's nice to get a localized version of the game in a much earlier timeframe. That I think is good.
On the other hand, it's the fourth(or sixth if you count the EXTEND versions) BB game to be released in America, and the only one to not have an English dub. I won't lie, this greatly impacts my decision to buy a copy. It's one thing for GG Revelator to not get an English dub, but to not follow through on the this new BB when it was done for every prior title really disappoints me.
If an English dub is added as DLC, or returns in the inevitable EXTEND version of BB: Central Fiction, then the game will receive my patronage.
On the other hand, it's the fourth(or sixth if you count the EXTEND versions) BB game to be released in America, and the only one to not have an English dub. I won't lie, this greatly impacts my decision to buy a copy. It's one thing for GG Revelator to not get an English dub, but to not follow through on the this new BB when it was done for every prior title really disappoints me.
If an English dub is added as DLC, or returns in the inevitable EXTEND version of BB: Central Fiction, then the game will receive my patronage.
If someone feels that strongly about getting it the exact day of, the option to just import the game is always available and most copies of the game are region free.
But there's already plenty of precedent for "waiting". Japan always got those arcade releases nearly a whole year before any version of the games came to the west, so countless Japanese players already had a "head start" as it were. And then there were plenty of other games that offered additional language tracks as DLC, though Blazblue was always commended for having one of the most memorable and well-executed dubs in the genre, especially given how story-driven the games actually are.
So for those that care about 1v1 fighting, there option to just do that was going to happen regardless, but for folks like me who really cared about these characters and the story they were attached to, the English dub really sold me on the series and endeared those characters to me, and I really wouldn't want to play the game without hearing those voices I know and love in supposedly the big finale of this long-running story arc.
tintin1029
Member
I've always never minded this problem, since 1: it's just a generic vs battle that has nothing to do with the plot, so what they say doesn't really matter. And 2: I've had to deal with this since Guilty Gear (and many old capcom fighters), so I've just gotten use to it.
The english cast for these games have always had a special place in my heart, but the idea that people are dropping these games for that reason is ridiculous imo.
cj_iwakura
Member
There is a LOT of stuff said during battles between characters that is story relevant, namely the Library's creed, and things like Tsubaki and Noel's conflict. Little things, but they do add nuances.
one less game to buy this year I guess.
My OCD won't allow it. The dub voices ARE the characters for me. Hell, when Tony Oliver didnt come back as Bang, shit sucked. I'm super far behind anyway and with all the spin off stuff actually mattering now, even more out of the loop.
I get it tho. Its not time but money tho. The cast is stupid big now and there is a lot of dialog to dub. It is what it is.
but this pushes it from day 1 to probably a rental down the line.
My OCD won't allow it. The dub voices ARE the characters for me. Hell, when Tony Oliver didnt come back as Bang, shit sucked. I'm super far behind anyway and with all the spin off stuff actually mattering now, even more out of the loop.
I get it tho. Its not time but money tho. The cast is stupid big now and there is a lot of dialog to dub. It is what it is.
but this pushes it from day 1 to probably a rental down the line.
Not to mention there are a lot of story matchups that can happen where you get custom intro animations, it's the little things. Also honestly speaking, I don't think this games timing will mean much in terms of community, everyone will be there day one, and then it will trickle off into the usual numbers.
Fuuuck you had to remind me, when Hazama, Bang, and Hakumen got their voices changed shit drove me insane, and it would go back and forth between the original and new ones, what was that, Continuum Shift? Also the Bang that we have now sounds horrible, like some old dude with a lifetime of smoking.
The time between the Japanese arcade release and the console release should have been used to make a damn English dub with a proper localization. People have already waited a year plus for the game, so what's another couple of months.
Usually I don't care about dubs, but BlazBlue actually has a good one, so it's disappointing that this game doesn't have it, especially when story mode is a big selling point for the game.
Plus how many versions of BB have come out up to this point with an English dub. Very off for this version not to have it besides to cut costs.
Usually I don't care about dubs, but BlazBlue actually has a good one, so it's disappointing that this game doesn't have it, especially when story mode is a big selling point for the game.
Plus how many versions of BB have come out up to this point with an English dub. Very off for this version not to have it besides to cut costs.
tintin1029
Member
But most of that stuff is likely already mentioned in the main story mode anyway, so it's not like we're missing anything aside from maybe a few jokes.
I understand that the nuances are there, but I just don't find it much of a big deal. If I really wanted to understand the relationships of the characters, I wouldn't be playing the vs mode, I'd be playing the story mode.
But I do agree, it fucking sucks it's gone. I just don't think it justifies completely dropping the series because of that.
Then I have no use for such inconsistency after three games only for the final one not to get dubbed. Getting the game later would've been of no consequence to me, as I wouldn't have minded waiting. I already considered skipping the original release thanks to Arc's usual Extend shenanigans, but this made the decision quite easy.
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
Getting the game out earlier is important for the competitive scene. I'd put that at a much higher priority than a dub.
BroodShadow
Member
I don't care for most dubs but this is a real shame becasue all the other games have had a dub.
I don't think people would have been that upset if the rest of the games were sub only.
I don't think people would have been that upset if the rest of the games were sub only.
Platinumstorm
Member
I'm very disappointed at the lack of an English dub, and I would have happily waited another year for this to come out for it to be dubbed.
This game is all about the story for me first, and the fighting game second. Frankly, I actually don't know what I want to do with regards to the game going forward. I want to support companies like ASW, but on principal, I hate that this is getting discarded.
I actively hate listening to games that aren't in English. I was blindsided by Guilty Gear's lack of a dub this time around, and I didn't appreciate that in the slightest [nor the basic grammatical mistakes]. The voice acting was so good for Blazblue, and they were legitimately hilarious voice actors as well.
When you're buying a base game it's not selfish or entitled to say you don't want to enter into a purchasing agreement with the company you're buying things from
Blazblue is my favorite overall fighting franchise because of how complete it has been; literally in a tier of its own. I'm going to wait on it, and pay less for it because they're providing less of the experience that is important to me. I have day 1d all of the other Blazblue core titles.
This game is all about the story for me first, and the fighting game second. Frankly, I actually don't know what I want to do with regards to the game going forward. I want to support companies like ASW, but on principal, I hate that this is getting discarded.
I actively hate listening to games that aren't in English. I was blindsided by Guilty Gear's lack of a dub this time around, and I didn't appreciate that in the slightest [nor the basic grammatical mistakes]. The voice acting was so good for Blazblue, and they were legitimately hilarious voice actors as well.
When you're buying a base game it's not selfish or entitled to say you don't want to enter into a purchasing agreement with the company you're buying things from
Blazblue is my favorite overall fighting franchise because of how complete it has been; literally in a tier of its own. I'm going to wait on it, and pay less for it because they're providing less of the experience that is important to me. I have day 1d all of the other Blazblue core titles.
Platinumstorm
Member
Hazuma and Hakumen weren't that big of a deal for me, but Bang's really altered the character. I get that things like that happen; but the original VA was so great at Bang that the new VA had no chance.
The competitive scene that has had the game in arcades for a year or they'll just import the JP version? If they wanted to satisfy both camps and timing was the real reason, they could just come out and say they'll release a free DLC patch for the voices 6 months later.
Competitive people are happy, and people who want the dub should be happy.
Honestly I'm just imagining if this were an SFV thread and how you'd be getting your head torn from your shoulders right about now for the "competitive scene" angle.
narutomaki04
Banned
I'm fine with subs, I still understand what they're saying and the game comes out sooner
Hellshingu
Member
Sucks for the people that enjoyed the dub. On the other hand I am happy that we will be getting it sooner rather than later.
I haven't touched any of the story modes in these games and I've been playing since CT and would prefer a quicker release. Then again I haven't played through a story mode in a fighter in years so I guess my opinion is rather worthless on this issue.
I haven't touched any of the story modes in these games and I've been playing since CT and would prefer a quicker release. Then again I haven't played through a story mode in a fighter in years so I guess my opinion is rather worthless on this issue.
The competitive scene imports to get games sooner, and tends not to bother using dubs anyway when playing on localized versions.
Always disappointing to see something like this happen. This new brand of sugarcoating ("but you'll get it so early!") is alil sweeter than the last one ("well no one likes dubs anyhow") but its still pretty bs. Its cost cutting pure and true, just like gutting manuals and clipping holes in game cases always was about saving the publisher money with being environmentally friendly as a front. >_> If you wanna do a near-worldwide release why not uh... delay the japanese version, or like, getting the localization stuff done during development?
We've been waiting long enough as it is.
rockman zx
Member
If the problem is time and not money, why they didn't start working in the dub early?, a previous tweet suggested it was not in aksys control anyway, maybe ASW handled the text too late.
I think the tweet you are referring to said the company doing the actual localization wasn't in control of whether or not there would be a dub. They said ask aksys and ASW.
Then the only sane option is the latter! Localize while developing! A quick look at wiki has shown me...
# of main BlazBlue games released in the west: all of them!
# of updated BlazBlue games released in the west: all of them!
# of spinoff BlazBlue games released in the west: all of them! (in NA at least, just 1 for EU)
That's like a near perfect localization record! Who could have possibly foresaw Central Fiction coming westward? Not ASW/Aksys, apparently!
I don't think that it is. Honestly, I would assume the profit margin first.... GG/BB are rather niche games to with, so I have to being to wonder how much profit was made during Sign and CP's releases. At some point, it's just not cost effective to go through the work of a dub cast... a shame really, BB's has been rather stellar in most cases, but between a game with no dub and no local release, which would you rather have?
Honestly, it's not that simple. Far from it, I think. I am a little curious on if something NA has something to it. There has been quite a bit of cost cutting in the anime circles, maybe that has something to do with it.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Yeah, this heavily impacts my decision to buy this game.
After playing the dub for almost 10 years they are the characters to me. Playing the story mode with subs isn't an option. What a way to fumble it too, at the critical final chapter they do this.
Blazblue Calamity Trigger is what got me into learning how to play fighting games. The story and dub was a lot of fun, what also blew my mind was how characters had unique match-up specific dialogue, not just for the match intro but also for specific moves, when getting hit, during supers and win animations and dialogue as well.
They injected the story relationships into the actual matches in a way that I haven't seen any other fighting game pull off to this level. The only reason I understood any of that, and why it even mattered was because it was in an awesome English dub.
Take that away, and you remove a big part of the Blazblue experience for me. To me Blazblue is part fighting game, part story game intertwined, and that's just talking about versus matches. Now without that English dub, I can't enjoy any of that like I used to.
I'm willing to buy from Aksys if they include the English dub in the inevitable EXTEND version of this game.
After playing the dub for almost 10 years they are the characters to me. Playing the story mode with subs isn't an option. What a way to fumble it too, at the critical final chapter they do this.
Blazblue Calamity Trigger is what got me into learning how to play fighting games. The story and dub was a lot of fun, what also blew my mind was how characters had unique match-up specific dialogue, not just for the match intro but also for specific moves, when getting hit, during supers and win animations and dialogue as well.
They injected the story relationships into the actual matches in a way that I haven't seen any other fighting game pull off to this level. The only reason I understood any of that, and why it even mattered was because it was in an awesome English dub.
Take that away, and you remove a big part of the Blazblue experience for me. To me Blazblue is part fighting game, part story game intertwined, and that's just talking about versus matches. Now without that English dub, I can't enjoy any of that like I used to.
I'm willing to buy from Aksys if they include the English dub in the inevitable EXTEND version of this game.
R_thanatos
Member
I live in europe . i remember BB CT. (1+ year late , dead online , no revelance because CS was already out and the list goes on)
I value release speed now . 1 month late is acceptable oover 6 months like aksys said or even more if something else happen.
It's a shame there is no eng dub , but right now as someone who does play with friends online since BB always had excellent netcode. My priority is the release speed
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
For the next game they could get things out even faster and only translate the menus, leave everything else including the story mode in Japanese text.
It would come out even faster guys!!!!!
It would come out even faster guys!!!!!
cj_iwakura
Member
Maybe, just maybe, if this release bombs, they'll do it.
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rockman zx
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Steeped in a Sea of Games
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Man, the dub for blazblue was surprisingly really good too. Major disappointment here.