Wait, how is Alan Wake 2 woke? I've completed the game btw.
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Alan Wake 2 on PlayStation 5 Pro – Behind The Scenes
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DeepEnigma
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Why optimize games prelaunch anymore when you can do it over time when people have already beaten it and moved on a year later? (rhetorical)
And they wonder why there are a core group of gamers who won't buy games until well down the road now.
Our industry man, I swear.
hinch7
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Yeah it I recently got back into the game and completed it. A lot better since launch. Still crazy demading with pathtracing; with some dips in some woodland areas but now totally playable on a 4070Ti at 4K.
Luipadre
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Because of 1 line of dialogue, anti woke crowd declared it a woke ass game.
Just ignore them
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amigastar
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Thats true, so sadBecause of 1 line of dialogue, anti woke crowd declared it a woke ass game.
SkyHighTrees
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its the quality mode at 60
Snowdonhoffen
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They were calling it woke before it even released. After it released they were holding on to every little thing they could find to reaffirm how woke it was.Because of 1 line of dialogue, anti woke crowd declared it a woke ass game.
mayham2199
Member
I will say it does seem like they sort of just left it a lone. I think the game got to much praise overall from people and they realized it was a lost cause.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Nowhere near a locked 60 on Pro in some areas..... CPU bottleneck strikes again :-(
Still very excited to play this though
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winjer
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Considering the Series X and base PS5 maintain the 60 fps, it's probably some issue with DRS values on the Pro. Or higher RT effects, like shadows, that tax that scene too much.
I doubt it's the CPU that is causing the performance issues there.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Do you think that could maybe be improved with a patch then or is this as close as we will get?
winjer
Gold Member
Of course. It's just a question of tweaking some values, wither for dynamic resolution scaling, or for the RT settings.
kazuyamishima
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The 3D juegos analysis mentions that PSSR has to work with the already low resolution of 864p from the base PS5 so that’s why there’s not too much difference.
But I dunno if that’s the true or not.
But I dunno if that’s the true or not.
blastprocessor
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Radical_3d
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Look at the hair in the Analista de Bits video at 1 minute timestamp. You’ll see a breakdown in the hair in the main character that the base PS5 doesn’t have.
kazuyamishima
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There are several things noticeable that are better on the Pro compared to base PS5.
The average Joe will say that they look the same, but I think Sony is playing the long game, more demanding games are coming with the likes of MH Wilds, GTAVI and many more that will run best on the Pro.
Mister Wolf
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AW2 does not have DRS.
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winjer
Gold Member
Then that is probably the issue.
The game was forced to run at a fixed resolution, got to a point where there were too many shaders to calculate and performance dropped, because the GPU could not keep up.
angelgs90
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Performing worse than 4 year old consoles in 'Performance Mode'.
Graphical settings aside, this shouldn't be happening.
Bojji
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No RT and it's 8xxp in performance mode (they can't really go any lower), just with higher gfx settings. I think it's fair to be disappointed with performance, they should have left settings as they were.
Bojji
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Why? It's one of the newest engines around, it favors Xbox probably because it' likes compute performance. I don't know why they used settings in performance mode on Pro that drops fps this much, this is stupid.
Even if they used DRS - where they can go? 800p to 720p?
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winjer
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But it's using RT.
The Pro in Quality mode improves reflections by a good margin, for example.
Mister Wolf
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Those drops aren't a big deal to anyone with a VRR display. Having the higher settings running at 60fps the majority of the time means more than some trivial frame drops. If people are upset about this wait until they see all the framedrops Wilds will have on the Pro.
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Bojji
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In 30fps quality mode, yes. But 60fps mode has drops not related to RT.
Bojji
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Sometimes PS4 Pro had worse performance than base console, like The Last of us 2. Same is true for some games on Xbox SX, higher resolution than PS5 but worse performance.
Devs have fucked up priorities.
Mr Moose
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I don't think it's the CPU.
Bojji
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
How do you know they aren't related to RT? RT still hits the CPU even though it is mainly hitting the GPU. If you are already maxing out the CPU then RT will push you over the edge into CPU bottlenOops.
Edit: Oops ignore
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Mr Moose
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It doesn't have RT in 60fps mode.
Bojji
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RT is turned off in performance mode so how can it affect... performance?
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Ah oops.
Kaiserstark
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When you look at how perform a 7700XT in Alan Wake 2, it's hard to understand how they can have a resolution that low on the Pro.
I wonder if it's because their engine isn't optimized well enough on console.
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Bojji
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When you look at how perform a 7700XT in Alan Wake 2, it's hard to understand how they can have a resolution that low on the Pro.
I wonder if it's because their engine isn't optimized well enough on console
Without DRS they have to set resolution for the lowest performing scene. And that forest scene at night is probably around the heaviest in entire game.
City segments and Alan segments run much better, I don't know where TPU took those measures but i doubt it's the same place we have videos from.
Physiognomonics
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All Remedy games perform better on Xbox. Their engine is just better there. Not surprised that this game is the worst case for PS5 Pro.
winjer
Gold Member
This is the difference between load in different game sections:
115fps, 115fps, 75fps...
The CPU usage on the forest is almost half of what it does in the other scenes.
The forest is completely GPU bound.
Kaiserstark
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It's really a strange choice not to have integrated DRS for such a heavy game on console.
Bojji
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Yeah it would only drop to 800p in most heavy scenes.
So in this tech aspect they are quite behind.
sachos
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Came here to post this, again. And remember this bench was done on launch patch and Max Raster settings. The PS5 Pro is not using Max settings either and should have all the perf improvements from patches too. Really disappointing showing by AW2 here.When you look at how perform a 7700XT in Alan Wake 2, it's hard to understand how they can have a resolution that low on the Pro.
I wonder if it's because their engine isn't optimized well enough on console.
Johnny Concrete
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You have to dig pretty deep to see it and once you've seen it it can be easily unseen.
GHG
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If it were a CPU bottleneck then you would be seeing the same framerates on the base PS5 version.
People just throwing around words/phrases without having any understanding.
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