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[PeteBull]

That's gotta be a different TOD right? Or is that with RTGI etc in the pic on the right?

Its gta5 ps4/xbox one grass gate all over again

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Post in thread 'Digital Foundry: GTA 5's next-gen grass compared'

Nov 19, 2014

(yes I was bored at work)

• Hanmik

 

[winjer]

A 6800xt has a memory bandwidth of 510 gb/s

512.0 GB/s and 128MB of L3 cache that consoles don't have any. And this helps a lot with cache hits and reducing memory accesses.
So the effective memory bandwidth of the 6800XT is much greater than the PS5 and the Pro.

and a ddr5 setup has a bandwidth of 64gb/s.

DDR bandwidth depends on speed, memory channels and Infinity Fabric. 64GB/s is a basic number, as DDR% can go well above the 100GB/s mark.

The PS5 Pro has 576 gb/s bandwidth and special optimizations like cache scrubbers and a dedicated io decompressor/unit etc.

That is for the SSD to send data to the memory.
Not to send data back and forth to the CPU and GPU.

And cache scrubbers are a common thing on modern CPUs and GPUs. Be it on PC or consoles.

At the end of the day, the bandwidth available between a 6800xt based PC and the pro would be comparable.

It's not even close, mostly because of the 128MB of L3 cache.
Just look at how many cache hits, those 128MB get.

 

[PeteBull]

I think those upcoming in may(dunno if announcement or launch, leaks arent too solid as of yet) rx 9060xt cards could have somehow closest performance with the pr0, unlike rx 6800, their rt and ai upscaling capabilities will definitely rival ps5pr0, not just pure raster throuthput.
Specs wise 9060xt, even tho it will have 8 and 16gigs models, is exactly 9070xt cut in half(cores, memory bus and bandwith) but has bit higher clocks so very close to performance of the pr0, both raster, rt and ai upscaling too

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-launch-radeon-rx-9060-xt-on-may-18th-rx-9070-gre-pushed-back-to-q4

 

[winjer]

I think those upcoming in may(dunno if announcement or launch, leaks arent too solid as of yet) rx 9060xt cards could have somehow closest performance with the pr0, unlike rx 6800, their rt and ai upscaling capabilities will definitely rival ps5pr0, not just pure raster throuthput.
Specs wise 9060xt, even tho it will have 8 and 16gigs models, is exactly 9070xt cut in half(cores, memory bus and bandwith) but has bit higher clocks so very close to performance of the pr0, both raster, rt and ai upscaling too

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-launch-radeon-rx-9060-xt-on-may-18th-rx-9070-gre-pushed-back-to-q4

Those 9060XTs might have a slight advantage.
The 9070s have 64Mb of L3 cache. The 9060s might have just 32MB.
RDNA4 also brought big improvements to delta color compression.

 

[DJ12]

You can just tell if the overall consensus that an MS game is better on PS5 by the lack of an adamsapple summary.

 

[DenchDeckard]

You can just tell if the overall consensus that an MS game is better on PS5 by the lack of an adamsapple summary.

But the Xbox series X version is better than the PS5 if you go by pixel count?

 

[Ozriel]

A great port overall for the ps5 but the pro port could have done a lot more. I think this is going to be the trend going forward Microsoft studio games will be good ports to the base ps5 featuring relative parity but pro ports will not be pushed to have a significant upgrade to display a significant disparity from the xbox console, which is understandable, I guess.

That being said a brilliant game and being able to play this baby on the ps5 will be a treat ps5 pro underutilized or not.

Sony literally announced the PS5 Pro saying it would allow Quality mode visuals at Performance mode framerate.

Forza Horizon 5 pretty much delivers exactly this. It runs the Series X/PS5 30fps mode at 60fps. And still you complain?

 

[Steve Holt]

PS5 Pro is a beast

 

[pasterpl]

Just bring back project Gotham FFS now there was a racing game

This. I still have my old x360 to play PGR4 every now and then

 

[SkyHighTrees]

If this is running Series X quality mode settings at 60 fps then that is a huge win for Pro!

FYI on SX the Quality mode looked a LOT better than performance but the 30 fps handling wasn't nearly as good. This is best of best worlds? That is great if true

Edit- nvm "not a settings match" that means Performance is NOT running true Quality mode settings ...

Also, wtf is this Quality mode? That's lame

u insufferable

 

[Fake]

Such a shame there's no physical copy for this game on PS5.

For me this was a deal breaker for this game.

 

[adamsapple]

You can just tell if the overall consensus that an MS game is better on PS5 by the lack of an adamsapple summary.

I did notice more evidence of DRS on PS5 in some shots in performance mode, with one example indicating an 1872p internal resolution on PS5 and the full 2160p on Series X.

 

[Seomel]

If this is running Series X quality mode settings at 60 fps then that is a huge win for Pro!

FYI on SX the Quality mode looked a LOT better than performance but the 30 fps handling wasn't nearly as good. This is best of best worlds? That is great if true

Edit- nvm "not a settings match" that means Performance is NOT running true Quality mode settings ...

Also, wtf is this Quality mode? That's lame

Bro cant even read or listen. Smth

 

[Signalis]

Forza Horizon peaked with 2. 3 was okay, 4 sucked and 5 is just plain boring. 5 Does look really nice though, but I found it boring

 

[SkyHighTrees]

Bro cant even read or listen. Smth

bro is just perpetual screaming in terror

 

[Skifi28]

bro is just perpetual screaming in terror

 

[DJ12]

That's not a summary, that's you cherry picking one comment that makes you feel better lol

 

[DJ12]

Forza Horizon peaked with 2. 3 was okay, 4 sucked and 5 is just plain boring. 5 Does look really nice though, but I found it boring

True if you've played all of them. If 5 is your first one it'll be fun.

I started with 4, then got 3 which is considerably better, and then 5 which added very little, if anything to the game.

I've brought it for ps5 as I don't like playing it on PC as my old 2080 can no longer adiquately service my super ultra wide monitor

 

[adamsapple]

That's not a summary, that's you cherry picking one comment that makes you feel better lol

Still shatter your overall consensus tho.

I appreciate you looking forward to my summaries in DF topics, love all my fans.

 

[SABRE220]

Sony literally announced the PS5 Pro saying it would allow Quality mode visuals at Performance mode framerate.

Forza Horizon 5 pretty much delivers exactly this. It runs the Series X/PS5 30fps mode at 60fps. And still you complain?

You know that just because I didn't say it was a perfect port doesn't mean I think its terrible. So you don't need to throw a hissy fit...It's a great port on the base console, and they could have done more on the pro, but don't worry, you being a good little knight for pieces of plastic is very admirable stuff.

 

[SABRE220]

512.0 GB/s and 128MB of L3 cache that consoles don't have any. And this helps a lot with cache hits and reducing memory accesses.
So the effective memory bandwidth of the 6800XT is much greater than the PS5 and the Pro.



DDR bandwidth depends on speed, memory channels and Infinity Fabric. 64GB/s is a basic number, as DDR% can go well above the 100GB/s mark.



That is for the SSD to send data to the memory.
Not to send data back and forth to the CPU and GPU.

And cache scrubbers are a common thing on modern CPUs and GPUs. Be it on PC or consoles.



It's not even close, mostly because of the 128MB of L3 cache.
Just look at how many cache hits, those 128MB get.

Ah thanks for reminding me I forgot the desktop rdna2 had infinity caches.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I'm excited, now give me Flight Sim and thats all I want.

 

[John Wick]

This game is 10/10 easy for me. The complete package with rock solid performance and stunning gameplay. Must buy

 

[Markio128]

Played for a couple of hours last night in performance mode and I have to say that it's a stunning port, at least visually. The dual sense support isn't up there with GT7, but it isn't bad - there's a little bit of feedback with a gear change, but there doesn't seem to be much resistance when using accelerate or brake triggers.

Pop-in is waaaaay less noticeable than I remember on Series X in performance mode, for certain. And unless it's been improved since I played it on Xbox, the loading is quicker too.

All-in-all, it's as good as I could have hoped.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Forza Horizon peaked with 2. 3 was okay, 4 sucked and 5 is just plain boring. 5 Does look really nice though, but I found it boring

They changed the direction after 2, saying it's okay you're not winning races and focusing on allowing you to create your events using blueprints.

I'm not a fan of this and I consider 1 & 2 to be among the best, but I've still spent 100-200 hours with every Horizon game.

 

[SkyHighTrees]

Can you have a garage with common cars? At least in the beginning?

Hate games givingg you 700hp cars OFF DA BAT

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

Can you have a garage with common cars? At least in the beginning?

Hate games givingg you 700hp cars OFF DA BAT

Yes. You'll get a wide variety of cars and for the majority of the races you can enter whatever car you want and the cpu will pick opponents based on your choice.

 

[pasterpl]

Not sure if this was posted

15 minutes if Forza Horizon 5: PS5 Pro Gameplay (Quality Mode) By IGN — So it is obvious that they cannot play it

Also metacritic reviews with some perfect scores

Forza Horizon 5 critic reviews

Metacritic aggregates music, game, tv, and movie reviews from the leading critics. Only Metacritic.com uses METASCORES, which let you know at a glance how each item was reviewed.

www.metacritic.com

 

[Signalis]

They changed the direction after 2, saying it's okay you're not winning races and focusing on allowing you to create your events using blueprints.

I'm not a fan of this and I consider 1 & 2 to be among the best, but I've still spent 100-200 hours with every Horizon game.

I loved FH1 & 2, I'm the same as you, the amount of hours I spent on those 2 were amazing. I think the only reason I kept on buy 3, 4 and 5 is to see if they can recapture that same awesome experience, which none of them did. But FH 1 & 2 are GOAT!

 

[Signalis]

Not sure if this was posted

15 minutes if Forza Horizon 5: PS5 Pro Gameplay (Quality Mode) By IGN — So it is obvious that they cannot play it

Also metacritic reviews with some perfect scores

Forza Horizon 5 critic reviews

Metacritic aggregates music, game, tv, and movie reviews from the leading critics. Only Metacritic.com uses METASCORES, which let you know at a glance how each item was reviewed.

www.metacritic.com

I would have expected a gaming outlet with "gaming journalists" to be competent playing games. Whoever is playing looks like they've never played a game before let alone an arcade racing game

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Despite 5 being one of my least favorites I ended up buying the Premium Edition despite owning it on Xbox and Steam lol.

I'll definitely get my moneys worth again.

Forza Horizon peaked with 2. 3 was okay, 4 sucked and 5 is just plain boring. 5 Does look really nice though, but I found it boring

4 was great, and 3 is the peak.

What didn't you like about those 2?

 

[Signalis]

Despite 5 being one of my least favorites I ended up buying the Premium Edition despite owning it on Xbox and Steam lol.

I'll definitely get my moneys worth again.


4 was great, and 3 is the peak.

What didn't you like about those 2?

Well, you actually had to race and win races to afford new cars, so each car felt earned. Instead of just super cars being handed out left right and centre. You had actual progression

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Well, you actually had to race and win races to afford new cars, so each car felt earned. Instead of just super cars being handed out left right and centre. You had actual progression

Yeah that's one of my gripes with the new games as well.

I've pointed to this video multiple times but it sums up all my issues with current Horizon. Doesn't stop me from enjoying it by any means though.

 

[DJ12]

Ffs, for anyone wondering why ms have a piss poor rep, this is why.

Fired up forza horizon 5 (admittedly it got to the title screen which is more than it did on PC at launch) linked my account, crashes my entire ps5 pro.

Stop releasing buggy shit!!

 

[DryvBy]

Can I double up by getting achievements and trophies at the same time playing on my PS5 Pro?

Nope. You sign in and Xbox recognizes you are on your Xbox profile. Same with Steam to Xbox.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Im sorry but how is it a win for base PS5 if it's literally carryover setting from the xbox?

The Pro performance mode is quality settings at 60 fps which is the win.

Your post is dog shit.

You done good.

 

[yogaflame]

Impressive ps5 pro performance

 

[John Wick]

You should get it regardless of Pro. It's a fantastic game, one of my favorite racers of this and the last gen.

All the Forza Horizon games are fantastic. Must owns for anyone who loves racing games. I own 2-5 even though I have GP.

 

[intbal]

That's not a summary, that's you cherry picking one comment that makes you feel better lol

Running totals. Cued up to the side-by-side portion.