Werewolf Jones
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He's been getting NTR'd since S1.
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Aldnoah Zero Season 2 |OT| Inaho or Out, It's All The Slaine
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He's not an antagonist and hasn't done anything to deserve the hate. He's trying to do the right thing through means available to him.
What right thing? he's trying to gain power... not that I complain, I prefer Slaine conqueror to Slaine thirsty.
Episode 19
Oooooh yeah LORD SLAINE-SAMA has made his move. Everything planned out, everyone under his thumb. No one can stop him this time, not even Inaho Shitlord Dickface! It was pretty fun seeing everything come together throughout the episode on both sides. It's too bad Asseylum is still pining over Inaho. She could have had everything, now LORD SLAINE-SAMA is just going to have to discard her like another distraction. RIP!
Oooooh yeah LORD SLAINE-SAMA has made his move. Everything planned out, everyone under his thumb. No one can stop him this time, not even Inaho Shitlord Dickface! It was pretty fun seeing everything come together throughout the episode on both sides. It's too bad Asseylum is still pining over Inaho. She could have had everything, now LORD SLAINE-SAMA is just going to have to discard her like another distraction. RIP!
Lord Slaine sama? that would like Slaine sama sama in japanese...
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I have a theory that Slaine only achieved a moment of brilliance because the (real) princess's Aldnoah energy was quickening him. Now that the real princess is a way, shitlard Slaine will devolve back into his thirst simping self. Oh god Inaho how I worship thee! Smite Slaine from your heavily orange mech.
Wiktor
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Slaine fans seems as delusional as Slaine himself
Of course he's an antagonist. The whole show has been told from earthlings perspective, with villains being the martians. You could argue if Slaine is villain or not, but he's definitely antagonist, as he;s the main obstacle that stands against the "good end" which in this situation means Earth repelling the invasion.
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He was useless and dumb in S1. And in S2 he;s murdering humans, using princess as excuse to to something that's directly against her wishes and he's trying to bassicaly enslave the humanity. Really stand up guy.
Just because he deluded himself into thinking what he does is right doesn't change that. Few people, even those who commit the biggest attrocities, think of themselves as evil. They mostly delude themselves into thinking their the good guys.
Ayato Kanzaki
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At the end of S1, he could have helped Inaho kill the guy who swore to kill the princess, and was responsible for starting this mess. Instead, he decided to help Saazbaum, and shot someone he knew was in very friendly terms with the princess. How can the hate be undeserved?
Whatever. In the end, we all know who will win the war. I just hope Yuki-nee and Inko will still be there to see it.
Seductivpancakes
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Every bad guy thinks they're doing the right thing. I don't see how creating a new empire by seizing land on earth via military force is a good thing.
I don't think he's a bad guy tho. Still think he'll end up teaming with Inaho at the end.
At least Slaine has character development (for the good and the bad) unlike Inaho. Just look at where both characters were at in Ep.1 and look at them now. I hated Slaine most of the first season, but looking back at him now, he feels like a completely different character, which I can respect.
Slaine is trying to end the war and simultaenously change the Vers Empire. That requires sacrifice. He isn't doing any of it out of ego or desire to for power.
Slaine fans seems as delusional as Slaine himself
Of course he's an antagonist. The whole show has been told from earthlings perspective, with villains being the martians. You could argue if Slaine is villain or not, but he's definitely antagonist, as he;s the main obstacle that stands against the "good end" which in this situation means Earth repelling the invasion.
He's not an antagonist, he's simply a soldier fighting for the other side of the conflict doing what he can to make changes for the better.
The story focus has been evenly split between Slaine and Inaho from the jump. It's not that one is the protagonist and the other isn't or that one is the good guy and the other is bad. That's a far too simplistic take.
See, there really is no excuse for this level of ignorance.
Let's review Slaine's actions in season 1, shall we? Slaine
- killed Trillram to prevent him from divulging Asseylum was still alive
- returned to the Vers Empire only to identify the traitors and assist Asseylum however he could
- risked his life using Crutheo's audience chamber to warn the Emperor
- desert the Vers Empire completely to find Asseylum, marking himself as much of enemy as any other Terran
- came to the rescue the Terrans, and more specifically, Asseylum, from that one Countess
- went through torture to keep Asseylum safe
- crossed a battlefield, avoiding fire from both sides, just to reach Asseylum, and then again when it turned out she was in Saazbaum's castle
Slaine did all of this despite not having the benefit of allies. He was on his own, out of his depth, and yet still did plenty to protect Asseylum. It's simply factually incorrect to assert he is useless. As for his intelligence, as much as you'd like to pretend he has coasted on sheer luck and coincidence, his feats speak for themselves. Slaine is a far more skilled tactician than you'd like to admit. If not for Inko, Inaho would've already been merked.
As for his current goals, he has already denied having any motives for personal gain. He doesn't care about himself. Slaine realises the Vers Empire is rotten to the core, but he also realises that their conquest over Earth has a great deal to do with long term survival. It's not within his power to end the war on his own, so the only real option available, that he can see anyway, is to rise through the ranks, consolidate power, and end the war as quickly and with as little bloodshed as possible.
FYI, Inaho has killed plenty of people as well. It's a part of war, and there is no right or wrong, only those who are left. Slaine came to realise that in the final 2 episodes when the Martian soldier that helped him got killed. As for atrocities, Slaine hasn't committed any.
You seem to be forgetting the one time Slaine sided with Inaho, the rat bastard led him to believe he was using Asseylum and then shot him in the back, declaring Slaine his enemy before leaving him for dead. Why the hell would he trust Inaho again after that, or any Terran for that matter?
Slaine helped Saazbaum because his loyalties were temporarily shifted. His character is defined by his instinct to latch onto people that don't treat him like shit. Saazbaum threw him in a confusion because he treated him with kindness. Slaine made a mistake, sure, but since when do we expect characters not to, and why should that mistake make him deserving of hatred?
Of course it's not a good thing, but the cogs of war were already in motion. The only real option available to him was to do what he could to minimalise death.
I also think he'll team up with Inaho in the end btw.
that blue roses, it's like poetry.
How appropriate as Slain is up their with Makoto as worset anime characters of all time. I have been getting yandere vibes for weeks now from fake princess.
luckygodzilla
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My little Inaho can't be this cute.
Wiktor
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Everythig he's doing now is in reality out of ego and propably also revenge on how shitty he was treated before he became a lord. We haven't seen even a slighest sight of any noble intention from him this season.
And the only minimizing of casualities he's doing right now is among the so-evil-its-hilarious Martians and paying for that by pretty much annihilating most of humanity.
The focus has always been primarly on Earth side. Even in S1 Slaine was on Earth side.
Now his story is about a naive guy who got over his head and made a series of decisions that ultimatelly ended with him turning evil. It's a tale of how good intentions aren't always enough to stop yourself from slowly becoming a monster.
He's probably already too far gone to save him. The only redemption I see for him is realizing what he became the moment before his death.
I agree with HorribleSubs' description from the start of the season - Fuck Slaine: The Anime.
Just as a heads-up: if you watched the latest episode anytime besides in the last few hours, you should probably go watch it again -- apparently Crunchyroll screwed up the translations on a fair number of the lines, including some that had their meanings completely changed, and they only just updated their subtitles sometime earlier today.
Between this drop in quality just to get the show out on time and the endless delays like the ones for Kill la Kill when it was airing, I'd rather take the latter...
Between this drop in quality just to get the show out on time and the endless delays like the ones for Kill la Kill when it was airing, I'd rather take the latter...
Oh god lol
Uggghhhhh I have too many other shows that I need to catch up on! I can't deal with this! Darn you crunchy!
Just started watching this show....about 10th episode in....i was expecting far less from this show....something inferious to say...gundam seed.
Thus far its shaping up quet nicely. General this kind of shows suffer from indecisive characters who brood over metter and shit drags on for seasons. Here is not the case....characters get over hurdles fast and proceed to do something about it....
Its an interesting spin on things and keeps pace fresh.
Also outro song is fucking amazing....and this is comming from a guy that hates 95% of all intro/outro in anime.
Thus far its shaping up quet nicely. General this kind of shows suffer from indecisive characters who brood over metter and shit drags on for seasons. Here is not the case....characters get over hurdles fast and proceed to do something about it....
Its an interesting spin on things and keeps pace fresh.
Also outro song is fucking amazing....and this is comming from a guy that hates 95% of all intro/outro in anime.
Seductivpancakes
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Even though I can't make sense of the lyrics, I'm miss hearing breathless during the fights.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Episode 20 preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FaZbSSLihY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FaZbSSLihY
ThatChairMan
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Well, that whole amnesia thing got settled so fast that I don't even know why it was necessary.
Also, Slaine acknowledging the fact that the universe hates him by bringing Asseylum back to life the moment he gives up hope and makes an irreversible decision.
Also, Slaine acknowledging the fact that the universe hates him by bringing Asseylum back to life the moment he gives up hope and makes an irreversible decision.
Clearly to stall this second season as long as possible?
ThatChairMan
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Was it needed, though? Asseylum really throws a wrench in everything. I can actually say that I'm interested in what happens next, as what can Assseylum do in this situation? Out Slaine as keeping her hidden to the rest of Vers and rekindle their hate for Earth because some Terran tricked them? Will she even have any influence to do so? Would Slaine or someone else keep her captive and prevent her from doing so? How far does Slaine's loyalty go? How will Eddel/Harklight/Lem react to this? Would she go back to the Terrans, even if that might prolong the war even more?
So many possible plot threads have opened just by her waking up that the one episode of amnesia seemed only useful for affirming Slaine's guilt in keeping the truth from her and Lem, but that was settled by that a single scene.
titiklabingapat
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That sly Rittou lol. I thought she was useless, but she ain't! That little smuggler.
wait.... so what was the scene before the opening theme about this week? Was it a flashback?
So... what powers inaho's eye? I feel like it was explained before... but I forget. Always thought it piggybacked off some other cloud network to computate a bunch of stuff... but maybe not?
So... what powers inaho's eye? I feel like it was explained before... but I forget. Always thought it piggybacked off some other cloud network to computate a bunch of stuff... but maybe not?
Twin Tails
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inaho eye sees all
phoenix296
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The Martians are terrible architects. If the floor is so uneven that a wheelchair could fall over it poses a tripping hazard as well. I wonder how many have tripped and fallen on their head.
It's a well known fact that outside of their robots they are a pretty rubbish group. I blame all that red sand they eat.
The scene before the OP was just a continuation of what was going on last week. I think a lot of us were expecting some epic battle of Inaho vs 3 Mars Knights, instead they just tactically retreat. '
I believe they go over what powers his eye last episode too.
I feel kind of sorry for fake-hime.
None of this is her fault and she's being treated like trash by Slaine. Now with real-hime's memories back and fake-hime finding out real-hime is alive, I can't wait to see how it all fucking blows up in his face. \o/yeah... also why doesn't hime have fancy mars hover wheel chair?
no i mean when slaine was crying about tube hime
Flashback from when Slaine and Saazbaum returned to the base I think. After the incident with Inaho and the Princess at the end of S1.
Yeah, seemed like an odd point in the series to insert that flashback.
ohhhhh
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Holyshit Slaine is a muthafugging Uncle Tom with that "...inhabited by vulgar trash bullshit talk...". Seriously... this guy is someone to empathize with? I hope the Ducalion NB's him right in the butt-hole!
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