Alien Covenant Trailer Released

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are those bloody gremlin-footprints at the beginning?

bigsnack said:
My goodness the hate in this thread...Did you all get coal for Christmas? The cast seems more genuine already, and I believe that crudup and co will be more believable, which is really what took me so far out on Prometheus. I know I'll enjoy this at least to some degree, so I'm looking forward to it. I'll hope for expectations to be exceeded!
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no, worse.
a prometheus special edition blu-ray...
 
nel e nel said:
Have you seen Giger's body of work? It's one giant penis-vagina metaphor taken to extremes.

Here's one of the pieces that inspired the original xenomorph design:
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Alien with giant penis head stroking its giant penis.
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The very first film, the one which started all of this, is about a spider with testicles and a tentacle penis emerging from a vagina, which reproduces by literally raping the face of its victim. Then an alien which looks like a big ol' erection bursts from the chest of the rape victim like an unexpected hard-on, grows into a gigiantic, violent cock-for-a-head with a tendency to kill people by penetrating them orally with it's long, hard tongue.

To take umbrage with the Alien being a little bit penisy, now, is absolutely fucking bizarre to me.
 
It's Reyn Time! said:
The very first film, the one which started all of this, is about a spider with testicles and a tentacle penis emerging from a vagina, which reproduces by literally raping the face of its victim. Then an alien which looks like a big ol' erection bursts from the chest of the rape victim like an unexpected hard-on, grows into a gigiantic, violent cock-for-a-head with a tendency to kill people by penetrating them orally with it's long, hard tongue.

To take umbrage with the Alien being a little bit penisy, now, is absolutely fucking bizarre to me.
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I remember the director or writer saying that the entire film was pretty much a metaphor for rape, but rather going towards men than women to invert the helpless woman trope
 
Gouty said:
The source material is irrelevant. Blade Runner wasn't recognized as an instant classic upon its release. Early crititcal reception was mixed at best. It didn't find its audience until people got to live with the film for years and consider its themes.

Prometheus appears to be on a similar trajectory.
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Absolutely not. Prometheus will never, ever, ever be considered a sci-fi classic. Ever.

If anything its reception has plummeted after release, not gone up. If you're gonna compare it to Blade Runner you're going to be disappointed.
 
Theorry said:
Why does this movie suddenly has the Alien title?
Seems weird after Prometheus and this beind a sequel do that.
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Marketing and branding. Also sets up the idea the movie would be more about the classic aliens than say what Prometheus.

I mean look at the first teaser poster.
 
Simo said:
Marketing and branding. Also sets up the idea the movie would be more about the classic aliens than say what Prometheus.

I mean look at the first teaser poster.
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True. But do alot of people know that its a sequel to Prometheus?
Maybe thats a good thing tho haha. But dont know how the movie is gonna turn out but if it ties in alot to the previous movie my guess would be that alot of people are like. Huh whats going on. Those who didnt watch Prometheus.
 
Theorry said:
Why does this movie suddenly has the Alien title?
Seems weird after Prometheus and this beind a sequel do that.
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Prometheus was not well-received and so they retitled the sequel to muddy the waters. See people in this thread who didn't know this was Prometheus 2.
 
Link said:
I really hope Noomi Rapace is in this for more than a "Shaw died on her way to the Engineer planet" cameo. She was a bright spot of Prometheus.
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She probably will be revealed as the host mother of the new aliens at the end of the movie, which is again, already tried in crappy sequel.
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
Absolutely not. Prometheus will never, ever, ever be considered a sci-fi classic. Ever.

If anything its reception has plummeted after release, not gone up. If you're gonna compare it to Blade Runner you're going to be disappointed.
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Nope. Already plenty of support for it in this very thread. The tides are turning and you'll be counted among the unenlightened.
 
Gouty said:
Nope. Already plenty of support for it in this very thread. The tides are turning and you'll be counted among the unenlightened.
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No, I'm sure those people liked it at release too.

Prometheus will always be the red headed step child of the Alien franchise.

I'll eat some serious fucking crow if Prometheus will be considered among the likes of the original Alien, Blade Runner, The Thing etc. I doubt most people who like it in this thread like it as much as those movies.

Ex Machina has a better chance of being looked at as a sci-fi classic than Prometheus, for one the writing isn't complete fucking garbage.
 
Gouty said:
The source material is irrelevant. Blade Runner wasn't recognized as an instant classic upon its release. Early crititcal reception was mixed at best. It didn't find its audience until people got to live with the film for years and consider its themes.

Prometheus appears to be on a similar trajectory.
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How?
 
GAMEPROFF said:
All hope was lost after people lerned of the leaks that are confirmed by this trailer
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Maybe for some of the negative people but the leaks don't sound all that bad really.

This teaser has a lot of good stuff too. The movie looks great to start with, just like Prometheus did, we get 2x the Fassbender and he was greatnim Prometheus and last but more importantly, we have eggs, facehuggers and Xenomorphs again.

The feedback from the preview footage was also positive, so there is a good chance this will be at least half decent, if not good and lets face it, at this stage even half decent will be good after the quality of the last few Alien movies.
 
Yautja_Warrior said:
Maybe for some of the negative people but the leaks don't sound all that bad really.

This teaser has a lot of good stuff too. The movie looks great to start with, just like Prometheus did, we get 2x the Fassbender and he was greatnim Prometheus and last but more importantly, we have eggs, facehuggers and Xenomorphs again.
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It's only 1
xeno though. The other creatures aren't like the classic alien in the poster and shoot spikes from their tails/back.
 
Since this is something that hasn't come up yet in our talks here on the spoilers that have been confirmed, I figured I'll add this: The people who have let out the spoilers (i.e. James Franco's role, the stuff with David and Shaw, etc) have mainly seen a cut of the film in test screenings and the general consensus on the film is that it's not bad and an improvement from Prometheus.

Apparently Waterston, Danny McBride and Michael Fassbender are all good in it and that the central characters of the film are good. However the side-cast is your typical cannon fodder material and the film has some editing/pacing issues.

It's not a given that it'll be good, of course, but I think some of the doom and gloom here is probably being blown out of proportion.

For the record, Corporal Hicks from AVPGalaxy hasn't seen it himself apparently but has been in the know on some stuff (i.e. breaking the news that James Franco was involved, details on
the Neomorphs
and confirming certain spoilers).
 
I liked Prometheus at the time and haven't rewatched, but that trailer looked like a bad Prometheus (not even Alien) fan film. Terrible, and so disappointing.
 
Chained Prometheus said:
Since this is something that hasn't come up yet in our talks here on the spoilers that have been confirmed, I figured I'll add this: The people who have let out the spoilers (i.e. James Franco's role, the stuff with David and Shaw, etc) have mainly seen a cut of the film in test screenings and the general consensus on the film is that it's not bad and an improvement from Prometheus.

Apparently Waterston, Danny McBride and Michael Fassbender are all good in it and that the central characters of the film are good. However the side-cast is your typical cannon fodder material and the film has some editing/pacing issues.

It's not a given that it'll be good, of course, but I think some of the doom and gloom here is probably being blown out of proportion.

For the record, Corporal Hicks from AVPGalaxy hasn't seen it himself apparently but has been in the know on some stuff (i.e. breaking the news that James Franco was involved, details on
the Neomorphs
and confirming certain spoilers.
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I'll still remain a bit pessimistic, if only to be surprised when I finally watch the movie. Thanks, Chained.
 
Juan29.zapata said:
I'll still remain a bit pessimistic, if only to be surprised when I finally watch the movie. Thanks, Chained.
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No problem! And I fully understand and agree remaining somewhat pessimistic. There's plenty of ways that the film can go south still. I just figured it was worth bringing up the consensus from folks who've actually seen the film have said in conjunction with those spoilers.
 
Simo said:
It's only 1
xeno though. The other creatures aren't like the classic alien in the poster and shoot spikes from their tails/back.
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Well the rumour is
there might be a few different types, not exactly like the classic of course but still a type of Xenomorph.
 
Chained Prometheus said:
No problem! And I fully understand and agree remaining somewhat pessimistic. There's plenty of ways that the film can go south still. I just figured it was worth bringing up the consensus from folks who've actually seen the film have said in conjunction with those spoilers.
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Have you read the leaks? That trailer did nothing for me but I was hopeful for Ridley and no Lindelof, those leaks put me squarely into the pessimist camp.
 
The alien is a penis that kills people, but killing people having sex in some kind of gym shower? Too late number Friday the 13th for what was ostensibly a "thinking man's" slasher movie.
 
Alandrus said:
Have you read the leaks? That trailer did nothing for me but I was hopeful for Ridley and no Lindelof, those leaks put me squarely into the pessimist camp.
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I've read 'em, yeah. The issue is that a lot of the details are vague. At this point, it largely reads like a typical Alien story with some Prometheus-esque details thrown in for good measure. You'd be surprised by how much the execution of an idea or story factors into all of this- so it might be good/alright like the test viewers say.

Mind you, I have no expectations of the film being anywhere near as great as the original two films. But good? Sure, I can buy that.
 
Chained Prometheus said:
I've read 'em, yeah. The issue is that a lot of the details are vague. At this point, it largely reads like a typical Alien story with some Prometheus-esque details thrown in for good measure. You'd be surprised by how much the execution of an idea or story factors into all of this- so it might be good/alright like the test viewers say.

Mind you, I have no expectations of the film being anywhere near as great as the original two films. But good? Sure, I can buy that.
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Eh, everything with
David
sounds horrible. I don't know how it can be salvaged or made good. But, I guess we'll see.
 
Looks like yet another group of "FUCK YEAH BOI" people who has no idea what they're facing. I'd actually like it if they would show a team that has some solid intelligence about the threats they're facing and know almost exactly how deep in the shit they are from the moment they land on that planet. We'll once again go through the cycle of "oh my god what is this fascinating face-hugger creatur- BLOAAARRRHHHGGH!". Didn't leave me excited tbh.
 
Seems very much like Alien. I was thinking it would be the same Xeno from Prometheus but they show a guy giving birth to a new one from his back.
 
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