Kacho
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Yep, Elle Fanning plays a Weyland Yutani synthetic
Alien: Earth | Official Teaser
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Alex11
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Saw something like this too in an interview, but it might be some misunderstanding. From this interview the show seems to be connected to at least Alien and Aliens.
Alien: Earth Creator Teases the FX Series' New Creatures, New Mythology, and New Horrors
Creator Noah Hawley teases what to expect from the FX horror drama Alien: Earth, including when the show takes place and its new monsters.
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Kacho
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That sounds kind of cool actually.Saw something like this too in an interview, but it might be some misunderstanding. From this interview the show seems to be connected to at least Alien and Aliens.
Alien: Earth Creator Teases the FX Series' New Creatures, New Mythology, and New Horrors
Creator Noah Hawley teases what to expect from the FX horror drama Alien: Earth, including when the show takes place and its new monsters.
"If you remember the movie, you know, they just get sent to this planet. Clearly somebody knows about these creatures — they knew enough to send them there — but [the characters in the movie] don't know what they're looking at."
"These people who find those first eggs have been out of contact with Earth for who knows how long. And so there is a gray area that we could play in, and try to create something with as big a scale as possible to justify the title — while still making it credible for the rest of the canon."
Alex11
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Yeah, watching Alien a bajillion times, it was clear that the Company knew something, not a lot.
And that's what I like about it so much, they didn't hit you over the head with pointless exposition and explanations, they kept it a mystery as the Xeno was the focal point of the movie.
I would love it if the show would continue in the same direction with explaining as little as it can.
Ulysses 31
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Which cut, though? I just assumed the DC was the better one but after seeing this video I think I'd stick with the theatrical cut if I ever rewatch.
For example a lot of panning shots were shortened to the detriment of the atmosphere. This might also be one of the rare DCs that's shorter than the TC.
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Alex11
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Which cut, though? I just assumed the DC was the better one but after seeing this video I think I'd stick with the theatrical cut if I ever rewatch.
For example a lot of panning shots were shortened to the detriment of the atmosphere. This might also be one of the rare DCs that's shorter than the TC.
The theatrical cut more, I think it's a blend of Ridley saying that's the true version and the overall pace of the movie.
Most noticeable for me are the dangling Alien on those chains, but that scene is stupid and the egg morphing scene, which is interesting, but it kills the pace.
It seemed that the most obvious rationale was the 'company' has a fairly open "recover any alien stuff possible" directive for their androids, so when the Nostromo reported a contact, then maybe Ash sends a prelim report, then it goes dark until Ripley is recovered. Based on her interview they call the colony to check it out, that goes dark, so they send Burke along with the marines to sort it all out. Don't really need for anyone to know much, if anything, about xenos specifically outside of what we get in the films.
I think the overall design aesthetic of the Aliens universe, kind of a cold, harsh, ruthless and exploitative vision of humanities future mixed with really alien aliens, whether you throw in the predator yautja or not, has plenty of room for exploration. The Engineers and the black goo I'm not overly fond of, mainly because its overly religiously themed, but I can tolerate it if it's not saddled with really dumb horror movie tropes like Prometheus and especially Covenant.
We may be feasting well if this show and Badlands can deliver. If that Robocop Omnicorp show ever materializes we might even get a hat trick of 80's sci-fi IP, even more so if someone gets off their ass to refresh "They Live" (how, How HOW THE MUTHAFUCKING FUCK has this not happened yet???) and maybe even a bit of The Thing tossed in there again. I've kinda given up on Terminator stuff but who knows, maybe.
Alex11
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Well, yeah, what I meant by not knowing a lot is that they knew about the Xenos, the derelict, but in general, not knowing exactly where they came from, the exact specifics, at least I'd like to think so.
I'm not fond of the whole there were at least a few humans that knew everything all along cliche.
I may be in the minority here, but I don't like the Predator in the same universe as Alien.
As for the Alien universe, of course it's full of possibilities, but it's not a novelty anymore and Giger's design was a big part of the appeal.
The 1st one was a standalone thing and it's a different beast than any other in the franchise, even Aliens. It's a horror at core and it had the Xeno left, right and center. Everything that happens had to do with it, no hero, no romance and it does something unique, it keeps the alien fresh by evolving its nature and appearance. And you know, what if that final form we see isn't truly its final form?
So, throwing other creatures and different themes and connecting them all with prequels on top, it deviates from the original a lot, not necessarily a bad thing, but so far it's sort of a mishmash.
But I'm keeping an open mind for the show, it can do its own thing very well as long as the Xeno isn't there just for show.
Alex11
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'Alien: Earth' Director Reveals How Much Xenomorph Screen Time We're Getting in New Series
Collider comes face-to-face with a Xenomorph and Facehugger on the Bangkok set of FX's 'Alien: Earth.'
collider.com
‘It’s the best monster ever invented’: Noah Hawley on bringing Ridley Scott’s Alien to TV
The writer-director defied expectations to turn the film Fargo into one of the best TV shows of the decade. Now he’s taking on an even bigger franchise. Can lightning strike twice?
www.theguardian.com
The director has some very nice ideas that collide with not so nice ideas, I'm still trying to be open-minded here. It's gonna be interesting what's gonna be the end result.
One thing I'm almost sure of is that we're gonna see the Xeno impregnate one or more of the other aliens there, IDK how I'm feeling about that.
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DragoonKain
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Alien: Earth debuts to the franchise's third-highest Rotten Tomatoes score, with only Ridley Scott's original movie and James Cameron's Aliens ranking ahead
Alien: Earth has the franchise's highest Rotten Tomatoes score in nearly 40 years
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Alien: Earth debuts to the franchise's third-highest Rotten Tomatoes score, with only Ridley Scott's original movie and James Cameron's Aliens ranking ahead
Alien: Earth has the franchise's highest Rotten Tomatoes score in nearly 40 yearswww.gamesradar.com
Amazing reviews all around. Its great. Just as I said, with some directors, you just know.
I don't get the blind hate on the first couple pagesIm convinced some of you are just programmed to hate anything new.
The Show Runner on this, knows his shit. Do your damn research before you blindly hate.
This will be good - book it.
Also, dope poster
Alex11
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Well, reviews were amazing at first for Romulus too.
I'm not saying this will be bad or anything, but with the shows premise it could go either way, at least for me.
As a big fan I just prefer to go in neutral, I've been burned by all the sequels, except for Aliens.
clarky
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Rotten tomatoes cannot be trusted when it comes to TV shows. They skew way higher for some reason.
Heres a list of the 100% club
Lots of painfully average stuff in there.
editorial.rottentomatoes.com
Still this does look good so fingers crossed
Heres a list of the 100% club
Lots of painfully average stuff in there.
The Best TV Seasons Certified Fresh at 100%
"Reservation Dogs" season 3, "Foundation" season 2, and "What We Do in the Shadows" season 5 join our list of 176 TV seasons Certified Fresh at with a perfect score, including "Breaking Bad," "Only Murders in the Building," "The Wire," and more top shows.
editorial.rottentomatoes.com
Still this does look good so fingers crossed
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kpopSuperstar
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Never understood why people care about Rotten Tomato scores, isn't every score over 50% counted as positive? virtually every show and movie gets absurd tomato score and everytime people fall for it.
That said, I love Alien and have high hopes, but a good tomato score means absolutely fucking nothing. Even metacritic is better.
That said, I love Alien and have high hopes, but a good tomato score means absolutely fucking nothing. Even metacritic is better.
clarky
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Its just counts positive or negative reviews. It gives you and indication that the movie is or is not shit nothing more.
It works quite well for films. if something is over 90% fresh it usually means its very good. Usually.
It doesn't seem to work with TV as reviews always seem be on the positive side.
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Insane Metal
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From the trailers I thought it looked good. I'm cautiously optimistic!
MSduderino
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I'm excited for this. Sounds like must see tv honestly.
kpopSuperstar
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I watched that movie 4 days ago, and was surprised at how the alien scenes look weird and kinda silly. It's the tension thats so damn great.
It's also the only movie were Ripley doesn't look like a housewife.
Alex11
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Well, yeah, of course, for me the space scenes, but I can give it a pass for the time and all the other stuff that does amazing. Also it worked in their favor with the slow pacing and the buildup.
Even so, it's much better than the CGI fest we get these days. It's the same with The Thing and the sequel, the 1st one is 10x more terrifying, gross, and realistic.
It's also the only movie where she's not the main character or any human and she isn't really that classic hero, more dumb-luck than anything. The perfect ending for me would have been that she was sucked into space along with the Xeno.
xrnzaaas
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A bigger problem here is that the critics often have different taste to average Joes. In some cases the lower the RT score, the better chances it'll be fun.
It's best to just wait and see for yourself, I don't like the cast and I don't have high expectations (I disliked Romulus), but it's Alien so I'll watch several episodes to give it a chance.
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Alex11
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I only now saw the new Predator trailer and they seem to want to connect the 2 franchises for good.
If so, for me it is a big no-no; I don't understand this obsession with Alien vs Predator. Not only at core, the movies are different genres, the Yautja will own the Xeno 9 out of 10 times. Didn't they fuck enough the Alien mythos and franchise?
If I watch this show and at the end one of the new aliens is a Predator, I think I'll be done with this franchise.
If so, for me it is a big no-no; I don't understand this obsession with Alien vs Predator. Not only at core, the movies are different genres, the Yautja will own the Xeno 9 out of 10 times. Didn't they fuck enough the Alien mythos and franchise?
If I watch this show and at the end one of the new aliens is a Predator, I think I'll be done with this franchise.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
not about a single Predator going up against a single Xeno, its about going up against a hive of them
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
I've been avoiding every review/video and want to go in as blind as i can, Alien/Thing are my two yearly watched favourite movies but what i don't understand is where this fits on the timeline that Ridley fucked up with Prometheus and Covenant which in my head don't fucking existing in the cannon, so i'm hoping this doesn't acknowledge those two abortions
Alex11
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For me, this doesn't mean it's better, it just reduces the Xeno to a bunch of hive-minded drones and strips it of the intelligence it had in the original.
I've read all sorts of articles and from what I've gathered Prometheus/Covenant are canon, but are put in the background somewhere, sort of like, they happened, but either no one knows or the events are not referenced.
But don't know exactly, this is the problem with all sorts of prequels and prequels to prequels, it fucks everything up.
Ulysses 31
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The "normal" timeline is not that coherent either, like none of the movies/series wants to touch what happened to the derelict ship on LV-426 after Aliens.
MSduderino
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How does this fit in timeline 2 years before OG Alien yet xenomorphs are on earth?
Alex11
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Until Alien 3 it was pretty simple, then Alien resurrection came along and complicated things just because, after that, yeah, clusterfuck.The "normal" timeline is not that coherent either, like none of the movies/series wants to touch what happened to the derelict ship on LV-426 after Aliens.
Not touching the derelict, IDK, I think it was a good idea and it should have remained so, it stripped the Xeno and derelict of that mystery. There are tons of ideas and possibilities without needing to explain everything or having the Xeno fight all sorts of other aliens.
From the trailer, I think that the ship that crashes on Earth gets the Xeno from the same planet that was in Alien.
And it crashes on Earth around the same time Nostromo departs or is already en route to LV 426.
LV426 always being featured just makes the universe feel small. Though the Alien universe is already kinda wierd in that they seem to have some sort of FTL drive yet Ripley can 'drift through the core systems" in a mere 57 years, unless she was going at near relativistic speeds I doubt she would clear a solar system in that time, much less interstellar space.
Alex11
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Exactly, you're one of the few to point this out, for most fans this doesn't seem like a problem or ignore it. This is the comic book, superhero type of teleportation that I kind of hate, it's in every new show and movie.
That's one of the things I liked about the first 2 movies; space was space. It's not someone's backyard where you have a big chance of finding lost keys.
Conveying distance and travel is something very few sci-fi shows even bother with. Star Wars just threw it right out the window with folks being able to hop from planet to planet in just a few hours. Star Trek does it was well, they will have a "remote outer rim, far from any help from the Federation" episode followed by one where everyone is chilling at a big Fed base. So just how far away could they be? The Expanse was about the only recent sci-fi IP that tries to show distance but they cancelled the show before they could REALLY show distance.
The stuff like BSG, Babylon5, Stargate:Atlantis (or Universe, we barely knew yah), or Voyager were really the only things that made space seem BIG in that you couldn't just revisit places time and time again, though even most of those shows started to have recurring characters.
kpopSuperstar
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Why do you want her sucked out?
I think she becomes the main character when the captain goes.
I remember James Cameron saying that he was annoyed with Weaver asking for too much money for Aliens, and had written it in a way where they didn't need her. I assume Biehn would have fought the Queen.
Alex11
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I mean she's not the main character as in the main character is the Xeno and the Company/Weyland-Yutani.
I don't have any problem with her character, it's just that for me a dark ending would have been better and less cliche.
Branded
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I wouldn't mind it if this entire franchise pivots into a more Final Destination type thing and kills off every character. I love Alien as a whole (even Prometheus, Covenant and some novels of questionable quality) but the trope of one (untrained) human constantly besting these killer machines is getting kind of worn out.
clarky
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I like it.
Pitch: At the start of Aliens 2 Ripley has a Final Destination type dream and witnesses the car crash of every single entry since then. Movie follows Ripley as she frantically tries to kill every screen writer and director ever to touch the franchise since. Could end with a boss battle with Scott on the set of Prometheus.
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Branded
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Hah.
But seriously though these things are supposed to be doomsday devices. One settles on a planet and the entire thing will soon be overrun by Xenomorphs. They could even go the apocalyptic route and have humans be nearly extinct and only have small settlements underground somewhere. Do a 28 Years Later type thing for instance.
Alex11
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Funny thing, Alien was almost like that, Ridley wanted the Xeno to bite Ripley's head off, sat in the chair and spoke with her voice sending a message to Earth. Fox was no no for a dark ending and so here we are.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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clarky
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Awful mate sorry. Starts off fucking amazing then descends into complete drivel.What are you talking about? Prometheus is a great film
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
None of the Alien movies had great stories and were pretty much standard horror. You watch Allien movies for the atmosphere and tension, which Prometheus excelled at especially in its visuals. Alien 1 > Alien 2 > Promotheus >>>>>> all.
clarky
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Get out. Alien is a great story you lunatic. I tell it to the kids before bedtime regularly.
Also "standard horror" Yeah, no.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Alex11
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To be fair it isn't some philosophical story or whatever, but it's far from standard, it's an original, it doesn't have exposition dumps or some cliche romance, for me it's almost a perfect sci fi horror.
What bothered me most was the nonsensical behavior of almost all the scientists.
clarky
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A common problem for Hollywood however those fuckers were especially fucking stupid.
Facism
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There's cut content that implies these idiots were hired as a way to sabotage the mission, but that sounds dumb as hell, too
clarky
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Interview with Noah Hawley. Please, pretty please stick the landing.
First 2 episodes in 3 days!
Not reading but reviews are looking good at a glance:
Alien: Earth | Rotten Tomatoes
Discover reviews, ratings, and trailers for Alien: Earth on Rotten Tomatoes. Stay updated with critic and audience scores today!
www.rottentomatoes.com
Alien: Earth is 'Andor for Alien' — read the Empire review
Noah Hawley's xenomorph sci-fi horror Alien: Earth, starring Sydney Chandler and Alex Lawther, lands on Disney+ on 13 August. Read the Empire review.
FX’s “Alien: Earth” Shatters Already High Expectations | TV/Streaming | Roger Ebert
"Alien: Earth" is like nothing else on television.
www.rogerebert.com
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TVexperto
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Interview with Noah Hawley. Please, pretty please stick the landing.
First 2 episodes in 3 days!
Not reading but reviews are looking good at a glance:
Alien: Earth | Rotten Tomatoes
Discover reviews, ratings, and trailers for Alien: Earth on Rotten Tomatoes. Stay updated with critic and audience scores today!
Alien: Earth is 'Andor for Alien' — read the Empire review
Noah Hawley's xenomorph sci-fi horror Alien: Earth, starring Sydney Chandler and Alex Lawther, lands on Disney+ on 13 August. Read the Empire review.www.empireonline.com
FX’s “Alien: Earth” Shatters Already High Expectations | TV/Streaming | Roger Ebert
"Alien: Earth" is like nothing else on television.
"andor for alien"? wtf yeah right