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All New, All Different Marvel | OT | A New 52+

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Mudcrab

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X-men rumors/spoilers:
Wasn't the rumor that Scott isn't really dead, and he's just faking it while working with the Uncanny team in secret?
 
huh, is it worth picking up?

didn't thrill me, really.

Do any of you know what's going to be the end game of the O5 X-Men staying in rhe present?

I can see them using secret wars and time breaking to retcon them being from the same timeline and instead being alternates (like OML is) so it doesn't matter anymore. At this point they've made so many changes i can't see any realistic way to restore the status quo.
 
Of course Cyclops was right. But Marvel is in full Cyclops character assassination mode right now. They never full explained why the X-Men turned on Scott before Secret wars

The Xmen never really "forgave" scott for the shit he pulled in AVX and post. Most of the OG Xmen were about to kill him during the whole "last testament of charles xavier" business. Granted the Xavier school retroactively belongs to him after Eva Bell screwed with time, so it's not like many of them have much of a choice but to play nice or be homeless.

and they still haven't come up with a valid reason the "world" hate Cyclops more the Magneto, Apocalypse and known murderers like Saber tooth combined.

Scott was one of the five individuals known for taking over the world during AVX, and came VERY close to burning the planet to ash before the avengers got lucky and stopped him. He is also a known murderer of a high profile philanthropist (xavier) and doesn't deny it. he was committed to a maximum security facility, was a problematic inmate, and broke himself out when he got bored of playing Martyr. SHIELD/The Avengers went after him and he proceeded to punk them on international television with a team of mutant scrubs. They went after him AGAIN and said scrubs took over a helicarrier and sent it on an uncontrollable joyride cross country. SHIELD doesn't enjoy being made fools of, especially when scott wasn't shy about showing up on television and at pro-mutant rallies to spread propaganda while being a wanted terrorist by the US government.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
didn't thrill me, really.



I can see them using secret wars and time breaking to retcon them being from the same timeline and instead being alternates (like OML is) so it doesn't matter anymore. At this point they've made so many changes i can't see any realistic way to restore the status quo.

Its gonna be interesting if it plays out like that.
 
Cyclops
is dead?

who killed him?
fuck them. fuck Jean. fuck inhumans. fuck Xavier. Fuck. Jean. #Cyclopswasright.

A fellow believer <3

#CYCLOPSWASRIGHT

#STOPJEANREADINGPEOPLESTHOUGHTS

#UNCANNYINHUMANSISACTUALLYQUITEGOOD

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Its gonna be interesting if it plays out like that.

Honestly, Old Man Logan in the modern day is a better take on the character.
 

bengraven

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The Xmen never really "forgave" scott for the shit he pulled in AVX and post. Most of the OG Xmen were about to kill him during the whole "last testament of charles xavier" business. Granted the Xavier school retroactively belongs to him after Eva Bell screwed with time, so it's not like many of them have much of a choice but to play nice or be homeless.

Actually he gave everything to Storm.
 

Sandfox

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I'm going to continue reading it because it's a fun standalone title. TBH, it's place in continuity makes no sense, but whatever.
It's not even that. There are things like Gwen going to high school with him when they originally met in college as well them using hashtags and smartphones in a book that has to be set more than a decade in the past.
 
Cyclops died fighting the Inhumans, who released the Terrigen that made mutants sterile. Always heading in the right direction, Cyke. (We all know he's still alive.)
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Teenage Jean and Old Man Logan can finally have a canonical relationship.

claremont is prepping the lotion as we speak. and jean can have another man to manipulate

Honestly, Old Man Logan in the modern day is a better take on the character.

old man logan i dont mind sticking around. im sure regular logan will be around soon enough and it will be interesting to see them play off each other. but if the o5 become alts, then why is anything that they do/are matter to the originals
 

Avixph

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If the O5 are returned to their time line without getting their minds erased, will effectively erase many years of X-Men and Marvel continuity?
 

mreddie

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If the O5 are returned to their time line without getting their minds erased, will effectively erase many years of X-Men and Marvel continuity?

Timey wimey wibbly wobbly.

Also, I'm guessing Inhumans vs. X-Men is gonna be an event is it?
 

diaspora

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It's not even that. There are things like Gwen going to high school with him when they originally met in college as well them using hashtags and smartphones in a book that has to be set more than a decade in the past.

Exactly, it's a fun highschool Spider-Man book, but only just that. Trying to make sense of it in continuity is a pointless errand.
 

Sandfox

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claremont is prepping the lotion as we speak. and jean can have another man to manipulate



old man logan i dont mind sticking around. im sure regular logan will be around soon enough and it will be interesting to see them play off each other. but if the o5 become alts, then why is anything that they do/are matter to the originals
I don't really see the point in bringing regular Logan back.
 

Dalek

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If the O5 are returned to their time line without getting their minds erased, will effectively erase many years of X-Men and Marvel continuity?

At this point it's never going to happen. If they were going to go back it would have been at the end of Bendis's run. The only issue is the duplicates now at this point. It's redundant to have 2 Cykes, 2 Angels, 2 Beasts and 2 Icemen. Jean is good though.
 

diaspora

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But according to Marvel the Spidey book is in continuity.

I never said otherwise, I'm just saying that trying to make it fit within the timeline of current events is pointless. If they say it's in continuity- fine, I accept that, but I honestly don't care because it's nonsensical to try to make sense of it. Read as a Marvel Adventures type book I can see myself getting a lot of mileage out of it even if my preference is for Parker Industries Spider-Man.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
I can, but we'll see. I need my old man Avengers/Invaders team starring Steve and Logan before anything else though.

a brooding older logan interacting with a not so damaged logan while mentoring a squad of teenage girls? id read the hell out of that.
 

Drayco21

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If the O5 are returned to their time line without getting their minds erased, will effectively erase many years of X-Men and Marvel continuity?

There's only one actual time travel machine in the Marvel Universe, and Beast didn't have it.

The O5 are techincally from an alternate universe, not from 616's literal past.
 
There's only one actual time travel machine in the Marvel Universe, and Beast didn't have it.

The O5 are techincally from an alternate universe, not from 616's literal past.

We all know Bendis didn't care about those rules by now. If he did, older Cyclops wouldn't have disappeared when young Cyclops "died" for a moment in Battle of the Atom.

The question is how much does Quesada, the editors and the brain trust care about those technicalities. As far as I know, Bendis is still part of the brain trust and I can't see them getting bogged down in those technicalities.
 

Kevinroc

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We all know Bendis didn't care about those rules by now. If he did, older Cyclops wouldn't have disappeared when young Cyclops "died" for a moment in Battle of the Atom.

The question is how much does Quesada, the editors and the brain trust care about those technicalities. As far as I know, Bendis is still part of the brain trust and I can't see them getting bogged down in those technicalities.

Bendis isn't involved in X-Men anymore. (Beyond Kitty Pryde being a member of the Guardians of the Galaxy.)
 

Drayco21

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We all know Bendis didn't care about those rules by now. If he did, older Cyclops wouldn't have disappeared when young Cyclops "died" for a moment in Battle of the Atom.

The question is how much does Quesada, the editors and the brain trust care about those technicalities. As far as I know, Bendis is still part of the brain trust and I can't see them getting bogged down in those technicalities.

Based on Bendis' Guardians, Slott's use of the 2099 timeline, and the displaced O5 in general, I think it's fair to say that Marvel's editorial doesn't give a fuck about preserving its continuity anymore. It seems like they just defer to the individual writers preference, so you have the guys who care like Al Ewing covering every base and being super thorough next to guys like Bendis who clearly didn't read anything from any of the character's previous runs.
 
Bendis isn't involved in X-Men anymore. (Beyond Kitty Pryde being a member of the Guardians of the Galaxy.)

But he's still part of the brain trust that works with Quesada and editorial to define major events, right?

Based on Bendis' Guardians, Slott's use of the 2099 timeline, and the displaced O5 in general, I think it's fair to say that Marvel's editorial doesn't give a fuck about preserving its continuity anymore. It seems like they just defer to the individual writers preference, so you have the guys who care like Al Ewing covering every base and being super thorough next to guys like Bendis who clearly didn't read anything from any of the character's previous runs.

Yeah.
 

shingi70

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So something that hasn't been addressed, but why is M-pox a thing. I remember quicksilver using the mists to re powr himself and other Mutants.
 

Drayco21

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So something that hasn't been addressed, but why is M-pox a thing. I remember quicksilver using the mists to re powr himself and other Mutants.

The terrigenisis bomb was created by Maximus, who is a batshit lunatic, my guess is that whatever he did to the standard Terrigen Mists to maximize the efficiency of the bomb is why the Mutants are suddenly having such a toxic reaction to it.
 
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