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That justintv feed looks pretty nice. I'm still intrigued and very tempted to purchase.
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Alpha Protocol |OT| Bourne, Avellone, Denton, and the Agency's Sagacious Secrets
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Sullen said:
It's sarcasm.
I do wonder how well this will run on PC. I'd really like to get it this week, especially since Sega is releasing it at a budget (well, not full) price here, but I don't know if my graphic card will handle it. dxdiag says it's a X1300/X15500 series, one of them is supported, the other isn't :lol Should it be OK if it could run Dragon Age?
ClovingWestbrook
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Man in the stream the enemy AI is HORRIBLE. They get shot and just stand there and keep getting shot. They don't even move.
Basileus777
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Darklord said:
It's not out yet. It's just been leaked onto the internet.
marathonfool
Member
Awful animation is about par for the Unreal Engine. I didn't expect the A.I. to be this awful though. :lol
I'm still gonna stealth/gadget my way through the game.
I'm still gonna stealth/gadget my way through the game.
ClovingWestbrook
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marathonfool said:
Seriously, the A.I. is just horrible.
indigo-cyclops
Member
TheVisualizer said:
Point take, totally agree with you. As I mentioned every video I've seen of the game left me with some questions but I will no doubt give the game a chance and form my own opinion. However, I won't buy it full price. I think that is pushing it.
Kagari said:
I've been thinking the same. I've been dying over here. The AI should make for some very interesting situations
I'm not watching this footage and almost not reading comments to remain spoiler-free but as I understand stealth, animation and AI stand out like not good.
I play a lot of Deus Ex these days and you know what? AI is HORRIBLE, he just stands there when you shoot him! And lol at animations, these are not real people, just some robopuppets. And goddam, stealth is AWFUL. The guy sometimes can't see me even if I'm right beside him or even in front of him. It is A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE GAME.
/smh
I play a lot of Deus Ex these days and you know what? AI is HORRIBLE, he just stands there when you shoot him! And lol at animations, these are not real people, just some robopuppets. And goddam, stealth is AWFUL. The guy sometimes can't see me even if I'm right beside him or even in front of him. It is A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE GAME.
/smh
marathonfool
Member
WrikaWrek said:
Oh, I don't doubt the animators did a poor job. But I just notice the animation from Unreal Engine games tend to be stiff and the blending between animations is much too abrupt for me.
I don't care too much because the graphics is the last thing that makes this game appealing to me.
Outtrigger888
Member
Just picked up mod nation racers and decided to use the rest of my credit towards this game. Taking a shot in the dark on this one. 
soul creator
Member
lol at the live stream comment
White Man said:
My expectations couldn't be more realistic. I'm not foaming at the mouth in anticipation. I'm not hyped up (nor could I be, since the marketing has been terrible). I'm just looking forward to playing another Obsidian game.
KotOR 2, NWN2, MotB, SoZ, they all have substantial shortcomings (calling a videogame "flawed" as a drawback is pretty ridiculous), some addressed with time or community involvement, some not, but in each case I'm very glad these games exist.
KotOR 2's unfinished, buggy, overly derivative of KotOR 1, and still very well trapped in the confines of Lucasarts oversight, but manages to make Bioware's light side/dark side meter look absurd (while at the same time using it, of course), in particular through the fantastically nuanced Kreia.
NWN2 was borderline unplayable at launch and arguably barely playable four years and dozens of updates later, with its atrocious interface and poorly hacked in full party control. Act 1, which is probably 15+ hours long, is almost completely devoid of merit. But Act 2 breaks away and comes into its own with a Suikoden-on-steroids stronghold system that makes it all worthwhile.
NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer is the best written video game since Torment. Nevermind that, the FLAWS!
NWN2: Storm of Zehir, obviously made by a small secondary team, still manages to be wildly ambitious. JRPG-style overworld, full party dialogue choices, elaborate redone crafting system that's an insane money sink, and the ability to construct a massive trading empire to fund that money sink. So the exp system is totally borked, there's only one dungeon in the entire game, no story to speak of, and everything's wildly unbalanced. There's so much creativity here, even half-realized.
And, seriously, Troika 2? Bugs aside, that's a hell of a compliment as far as I'm concerned.
BanShunsaku
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Thought I would post a few more extended impressions from my experiences with this game so far...
First of all, it has to be said that a lot of people will be immediately turned off by some aspects of this game. As has already been discussed, the graphics are dated and the animations are anything but stellar. The controls take a little getting used to, especially (for me) using the directional pad to choose gadgets/weapons/abilities. The frame rate seems ok in general although during conversations there is a fair amount of tearing/weird frame rate stuff going on.
This game definitely has its flaws.
Having said that, I am seriously enjoying this game so far (I have completed about 4 missions, and reached level 4.)
I have had some trouble when taking the stealth approach, although to be honest when I started using my abilities more wisely I had a lot more success. All missions have resulted in firefights for my character, however since putting points into my various skills these shootouts have become more enjoyable. The game doesn't punish you for doing things "your way" ie just shooting everyone, and I can see the potential to approach future missions more strategically by using my stealth skills better.
I was about halfway through my most recent mission when the game just "clicked" for me. I leveled up and put some more points into my martial arts and pistol skills, and immediately started to feel that sense of RPG character building satisfaction. My Michael Thorton can do some serious damage wielding a pistol or an assault rifle, and can kung fu the shit out of anyone should they get close enough.
I am at work now, and can't stop thinking about getting home and doing the next mission.
Its far from perfect, and I can see why many people may not enjoy it, but I really think this game is a flawed gem that a lot of people will enjoy should they put the time into it.
Having said all this, I am only really just at the start of the game, and therefore can't really judge on its overall quality. But so far, so good. In my opinion anyway, I'm sure plenty will disagree with me.
First of all, it has to be said that a lot of people will be immediately turned off by some aspects of this game. As has already been discussed, the graphics are dated and the animations are anything but stellar. The controls take a little getting used to, especially (for me) using the directional pad to choose gadgets/weapons/abilities. The frame rate seems ok in general although during conversations there is a fair amount of tearing/weird frame rate stuff going on.
This game definitely has its flaws.
Having said that, I am seriously enjoying this game so far (I have completed about 4 missions, and reached level 4.)
I have had some trouble when taking the stealth approach, although to be honest when I started using my abilities more wisely I had a lot more success. All missions have resulted in firefights for my character, however since putting points into my various skills these shootouts have become more enjoyable. The game doesn't punish you for doing things "your way" ie just shooting everyone, and I can see the potential to approach future missions more strategically by using my stealth skills better.
I was about halfway through my most recent mission when the game just "clicked" for me. I leveled up and put some more points into my martial arts and pistol skills, and immediately started to feel that sense of RPG character building satisfaction. My Michael Thorton can do some serious damage wielding a pistol or an assault rifle, and can kung fu the shit out of anyone should they get close enough.
I am at work now, and can't stop thinking about getting home and doing the next mission.
Its far from perfect, and I can see why many people may not enjoy it, but I really think this game is a flawed gem that a lot of people will enjoy should they put the time into it.
Having said all this, I am only really just at the start of the game, and therefore can't really judge on its overall quality. But so far, so good. In my opinion anyway, I'm sure plenty will disagree with me.
zero margin
Member
Yup, wearing that beard the ENTIRE game.
zero margin
Member
I think it's just a shit load of disguises he can wear.
Basileus777
Member
Ducarmel said:
It doesn't show the beard in flashbacks, but I'm not sure if that accounts for all of it.
JustHadToJoin
Member
shit, accidentally watched the last mission up to the ending credits on the stream :/
this doesnt look like a buy
this doesnt look like a buy
JustHadToJoin
Member
in the comments the guy said it took him 11 hours. if the choice is as reactive as they say then hopefully that wont be as bad as it sounds.
BanShunsaku
Member
mujun said:
I'm only early in the game, so I only have one "base" which is in (very mild spoiler)
Saudi Arabia
You use the base to check emails, manage/purchase weapons and upgrades, and select missions. Once you select a mission from your intel you are sometimes given a briefing by your handler for that mission and then hit a button to be transported to the mission destination. You can also access missions by walking through the front door, which brings up the mission selection screen.
Well, if it's a multi-path/branching story then that's actually pretty long. It's not a JRPG for jebes sake!Kagari said:
Then again, I haven't played The Witcher so I don't know what the Quality WRPG standard is at. I have played Oblivion and Fallout, though! So I guess I have an idea of things being stretched.
Either way, 11 hours sounds long enough for me.
_Bro said:
Dragon Age Origins had multiples branches and was quite long. If you do most side quests it can last for 40 hours.
11 hours is a bit disappointing if you add the technical shortcomings and what seems to be broken gunplay and stealth system.
I'm still somewhat excited for it.
Nemesis_
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I still find Stealth really hard to approach in any manner namely because of a lack of real, well, feedback as to what enemies are doing and where they are looking/moving.
Still, as you've said, investing some skill points into more weapons and such has made the fire fights a bit more enjoyable, though it's still a bit frustrating to line up a shot and then fire only to miss because your stats aren't high enough. Kind of ridiculous.
But yeah, it's still one of those games that I can't wait to pick up and play while at work, or at uni, or working on an assignment. And not THAT many games do that for me these days.
I think I was a bit harsh early on, though I still stand by my statement that I am fairly certain NOTHING was done in the delay from October till now besides designing a few box arts and putting together some trailers. =/
