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"Always Online" hasn't been an issue for me in the last 10 years, why are people still complaining?
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Because some people don't like wearing a leash.
March Climber
Gold Member
Bojji
Gold Member
My internet was out for maybe 12h in total in the last ten years (and that's with power outages) but always online is cancer (and always will be) and it's only there because corporations wants to fuck us even more than before.
SportsFan581
Member
I'd say the major issue is that anything that requires online connection also requires continued investment from the developer. Once the game stops generating revenue the developer can decide to cut the cord.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
I think some just come up with conspiracy theories regarding gaming's "always online", to me I don't mind it's offers updates.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
Because for always online SP games the only reason to have it is to mine your data and analytics and then either later to sell them or to use them to design more addictive game mechanics. Most often without asking you for your permission to gain access to said data.
Also for SP games there is very often “connecting to server” message which adds a bit of time each time you want to jump back in. Not to mention company is not obligated to remove that requirement if said server were to be shut down, thus preventing you from continuing to use the product you bought.
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GHG
Gold Member
Now imagine you not being able to open your fridge and get food/drink next time your Internet goes down.
Your welcome.
Stu_Hart
Member
Always online is not the issue. I don't like games that are single player needing online connection to function, and the other stuff MS was trying to push back in the day before the xb one launch such as 24 hr check-ins or your system is a brick among other BS...It's good that the backlash made them change the requirements.
StueyDuck
Member
It's not an issue till it is an issue.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Because a daily check isn’t always possible everywhere.
I have a house on the mountains where there’s no internet and the cellular line is very shaky, to the point that even texts may take hours to get in or out. When I go there for a few days, I always log into my Switch Online retro game apps before I go, because they have a weekly internet check that I couldn’t possibly do up there.
It’s extreme situations, but you can see how a daily check wouldn’t be feasible in such circumstances, let alone always-online. But yeah, if you’re a dedicated gamer, of course you’ll live where there’s no internet problems.
I have a house on the mountains where there’s no internet and the cellular line is very shaky, to the point that even texts may take hours to get in or out. When I go there for a few days, I always log into my Switch Online retro game apps before I go, because they have a weekly internet check that I couldn’t possibly do up there.
It’s extreme situations, but you can see how a daily check wouldn’t be feasible in such circumstances, let alone always-online. But yeah, if you’re a dedicated gamer, of course you’ll live where there’s no internet problems.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
MMMMMh yeah I wonder why it's an issue...
WHEN 2 FUCKIN DAYS AGO I was playing Space Marine II and got disconnected to the main menu (I was fighting the Carnifex in the first map) and had to restart after 25 minutes of waiting because the servers were messing up. And my internet wasn't down because I was in Discord with a friend.
Your take is stupid, sorry to be this abrupt but the "I don't have issue so nobody's have issue" IS stupid.
existensmaximum
Member
Yeah, it's not a problem until it becomes a problem.
cireza
Member
Well, you don't know me it seems.
There is zero good reason for my consoles to be always connected. So they are offline.
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Team Andromeda
Member
It wasn't an issue back then it's just pointing scoring. If people are truthful they live their lives by being connected to the internet and the 1st thing one does when one gets a new console, a new PC, or a new Mobile phone, or more and more any major electronic company, is connect it to your Wi-Fi. In my work, our pay dockets are completely online, our roster is completely online and hell if you want to apply for a new job in the Trust, guess what?... you have to be online.
Far more of an issue of is so many places now only accept contactless payments and not cash. Giving banks full access to where you are spending your money and what you are doing.
Goalus
Member
If/when something happens to Outriders, this will be the time where I re-evaluate my stance on always-online.
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Hypereides
Member
To be fair, there definitely are some benefits to this idea, but the drawbacks outweigh them by far. These benefits mostly skew towards the vendors and platforms than it does the actual gamer.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some folks in favor of this are actual astroturfers who weaselled their way into the community to sway the general consensus. "Who cares if doesn't benefit you!? just accept it!".
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some folks in favor of this are actual astroturfers who weaselled their way into the community to sway the general consensus. "Who cares if doesn't benefit you!? just accept it!".
Clearly, those people just don't want to a penthouse with a lakeside view. Its that simple.
El Muerto
Member
I'm stuck on a cable modem. I was playing The Division one day, about an hour in, and the game crashed because the game couldnt reach the Ubisoft server in time because i had high packet loss. My internet has been shit for months and the ISP wont do anything. Can't get fiber. 5g modems are awful. I live in a big city here in the USA. Our infrastructure here is awful.
Syphon Filter
Member
use your brain, the reason people dont like it is because you dont own the game. when they take the servers down later on then you be able to ever play it again.
Insanemaelstrom
Member
When I lost almost an hour long single player race in gt7 because my internet decided it was time to reset, I became firmly against things being unnecessarily online only. It adds nothing and just makes the product worse
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Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Planned obsolescence.
Even multiplayer games and modes should have offline LAN play so the game’s forever playable locally or through online portals* when the official service shuts down.
*Halo CE introduced me to the possibility, even if I couldn’t get to work with my 56k dialup!
Even multiplayer games and modes should have offline LAN play so the game’s forever playable locally or through online portals* when the official service shuts down.
*Halo CE introduced me to the possibility, even if I couldn’t get to work with my 56k dialup!
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Minsc
Gold Member
Always online doesn't bother me too much for online games - like multiplayer or MMOs, it kinda makes sense.
But holy hell is it a trigger when it's used as a gate to prevent people from playing their offline games. The only reason anyone doesn't complain about it is because they aren't affected by it. But just wait until they are. See if they're happy to just play something else instead or wait for a fix. I think the games are bought with the expectation you are in control of when you play them, not someone else.
But holy hell is it a trigger when it's used as a gate to prevent people from playing their offline games. The only reason anyone doesn't complain about it is because they aren't affected by it. But just wait until they are. See if they're happy to just play something else instead or wait for a fix. I think the games are bought with the expectation you are in control of when you play them, not someone else.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It went on sale for a $1 and is getting an offline patch?
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
What's the benefit to the consumer for an always online requirement, specifically in a single player only game?
clarky
Gold Member
These are all multiplayer games though? How are you going to play at all without online?
rabbity-thing
Member
I'm right there with you, man.
Also, what's up with all these wheelchair ramps. No one I know personally has ever needed one, so why do we have laws saying they need to be there?
Also, what's up with all these wheelchair ramps. No one I know personally has ever needed one, so why do we have laws saying they need to be there?
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
If a game gives me option play SP then I should be fucking allowed to play it completely offline…..it’s that simple.
Sometimes my interested provider get technical difficulties and sometimes my PS5 like disconnect from intervened for no reason.
More importantly if the game’s severs get cut off I still want to able to play my SP game.
Sometimes my interested provider get technical difficulties and sometimes my PS5 like disconnect from intervened for no reason.
More importantly if the game’s severs get cut off I still want to able to play my SP game.
March Climber
Gold Member
Link me to the official patch for consoles and PC.
TropicanaTwista
Member
Well it's pretty simple really. What benefits do you actually get? There is no point for it. While Internet going down may be rare for some people, or can also be somewhat common in rural or spotty areas. I live in a major US city and my Internet will probably drop like 10 times a year.
stickkidsam
Member
Space Marine 2 is always online??MMMMMh yeah I wonder why it's an issue...
WHEN 2 FUCKIN DAYS AGO I was playing Space Marine II and got disconnected to the main menu (I was fighting the Carnifex in the first map) and had to restart after 25 minutes of waiting because the servers were messing up. And my internet wasn't down because I was in Discord with a friend.
Your take is stupid, sorry to be this abrupt but the "I don't have issue so nobody's have issue" IS stupid.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
think about it as death.
Killjoy-NL
Member
I'm digital-only, but I'm on the side of those who are against it.
There should always be options.
There should always be options.
wvnative
Member
