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Am I the only one getting a bomba vibe from Disney's upcoming OZ film?

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SCULLIBUNDO

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I know, I know. If that piece of shit Alice in Wonderland can make $1B+, then I must be crazy. And yet Alice in Wonderland had Johnny Depp and was the first major 3D film coming off the heels of Avatar.

Oz has James Franco headlining this thing and the dude has never been one to open a film. And despite the B.O takings of Alice, I don't think the film earned a lot of good-will and this looks like a carbon copy of that film. It saddens me because I'm a big fan of Sam Raimi, but I think Disney has a potential bomba on their hands.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oz-great-powerful-disneys-200-424526
Finally, just five months away from the July 2011 start of production, Raimi brought in James Franco (Harry Osborn in Raimi's Spider-Man films). "I met Sam to discuss this film around the Oscars two years ago," Franco recalls, adding he had read L. Frank Baum's Oz books when he was younger. "I was happy to do it, not only to work with Sam again but also because the character is so iconic."

Sources say Franco was able to command a $7 million payday due to the urgent need to land a star. He had entered negotiations before his ill-fated stint as co-host of the 83rd Academy Awards; Raimi claims the critical drubbing the actor received bothered neither him nor the studio. According to the director, Disney was "behind him from the moment his name came up and all through the project."
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As it is, the spotlight on this $200 million picture -- the filmmaker's first in 3D, for which he attended a special, multi-day 3D "school" at Sony -- will shine on more than just its male lead. With additional marketing costs of up to $100 million
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When shooting got under way July 21, 2011, Raimi had to accept compromises for financial reasons, particularly in the number of shots he could stage during the 109-day shoot. The CGI for any five-second shot cost some $40,000, he estimates. One exec told him, "Sam, your storyboards have 1,800 shots; you need to cut that to 1,400" -- because each shot comprised roughly 70 percent CGI.
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Also, while it doesn't have much competition, it does open a week after Jack the Giant Slayer (which has huge potential to bomb itself), which - should it be successful, could rob the appetite of audiences for more big CG fantasy fair so soon.

This film is going to have to make an absolute fuck-load to break even. What say you GAF? Disney got another bomba on their hands?

I'm not saying I think this film is going to bomb, but that cloud of uncertainty certainly hangs above it.
 
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equippedwithtowel

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In the commercials James Franco honestly looks like he wandered onto the set stoned and Rami just put him in. Dude can act but I don't see him leading a fantasy epic all that well.
 
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CrashPrime

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When shooting got under way July 21, 2011, Raimi had to accept compromises for financial reasons, particularly in the number of shots he could stage during the 109-day shoot. The CGI for any five-second shot cost some $40,000, he estimates. One exec told him, "Sam, your storyboards have 1,800 shots; you need to cut that to 1,400" -- because each shot comprised roughly 70 percent CGI.
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And here we thought a Skullgirls character was expensive. I said god dayum.
 
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CHusson91

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I'm looking forward to seeing it. I've always enjoyed James Fanco's roles.

Also, what does "bomba" mean? Why is there an "a" at the end?
 
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Dali

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I think it looks better and better each commercial I see. I think it'll do ok. Jack the giant slayer looks terrible from its hideous lead actor all the way down to is very premise. The worst part of every movie is the stupid giant gets tricked scene and they took that and made a two hour film about it.
 
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Black Door

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PhoncipleBone said:
So Disney might have their John Carter of 2013 then? Major bomb in March, but hopefully like Carter it is awesome.
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That's exactly what I was thinking a week ago when I saw a preview on the morning news. Same time frame, same "advertising," looks odd in previews, etc.

At least JCM turned out to be fucking awesome, so I have a little faith
 
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injurai

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i don't think it will be a blockbuster, but surely not a bomba.

and does it matter? It's a one off movie anyways.
 
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Cheebo

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People at my work the type who never go to movies seem pretty hyped about it. And my fiance wants me to go see it and she rarely is the one to push a movie on me.

Personally I think it looks pretty bad which hurts because I love Raimi. I think it will do great though.. Disney + Wizard of Oz franchise equals $$$$$$$$$. Don't under-estimate the power of that franchise on the masses.


Not to mention I remember reading it is tracking really well.
 
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Raptor

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Movie looks fun, Raimi makes great movies, Franco has charisma and is a good actor, graphics look great too.

It has Oz on the tittle, no I don't think this will be a "bomba"

IF anything it will break even and let Raimi and Franco in decent position.
 
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You're not the only one. It looks like generic overproduced/over CGIed garbage to me. I think it looks that way to most other people too.

It won't matter though because Disney will make bank on Iron Man 3, Thor 2, and Monsters University for sure this year, and probably Frozen and The Lone Ranger as well.
 
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BattleMonkey said:
No, it will do OK. Jack the Giant Killer is the one that is going to bomb hardcore.
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That will bomb for the same reasons. Even if Oz ends up being decent or good its close proximity to that movie, which is almost assuredly bad, will cause it to suffer similar word of mouth. Ie, "it will probably suck just like that other overproduced fairy tale movie we just saw".
 
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Bobby Roberts

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BattleMonkey said:
No, it will do OK. Jack the Giant Killer is the one that is going to bomb hardcore.
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God, Jack looks so fucking TERRIBLE.

Oz will likely do somewhere around Alice in Wonderland numbers. It's way more kid-friendly than John Carter, and less boy-centric, so it'll draw in wider audiences.

But Jack? That looks like the Bryan Singer equivalent of Zack Snyder making that fucking owl movie.
 
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Demoncarnotaur

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I really doubt it will bomb John Carter bad, and I even bet it will turn a profit- but yeah, it looks pretty lifeless. As you said, it just reeks of the recent Alice of Wonderland movie.. it looks like a CG heavy, goofy action movie set in an iconic fantasy setting while basically doing random shit in what should be an iconic story. Im not feeling it. Its gonna have to net some good reviews to get me to see this.

I hate this new action and CG heavy craze when it comes to fantasy films.
 
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3N16MA

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FatboyRoberts said:
God, Jack looks so fucking TERRIBLE.

Oz will likely do somewhere around Alice in Wonderland numbers. It's way more kid-friendly than John Carter, and less boy-centric, so it'll draw in wider audiences.

But Jack? That looks like the Bryan Singer equivalent of Zack Snyder making that fucking owl movie.
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Alice did $1,024,299,904 WW. Impressive if OZ gets within $200 million of that.
 
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Cheebo

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gimmmick said:
Star wars episode 7
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Disney is going have one incredible 2015. Avengers and Star Wars Episode 7 could each easily do 2 billion in the same year for Disney.

Adjusted for inflation all 3 prequels made well over a billion worldwide and the foreign boxoffice has really skyrocketed in size since Episode III in 2005.
 
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Canuck76

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I don't think so. It's a proven property. Yes Franco is weird and stonerish but i think people get interested when they see that witch hand come out in that trailer.

I don't think it does gangbusters but it's no john carter or mars needs mom type flop either
 
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Stinkles

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I like Franco's befuddlement, which is the essence of the character and I think the movie looks beautiful. Good? Don't know til I see it.
 
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Cyan

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Am I the only one getting a bomba vibe from Disney's upcoming OZ film? #
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Nope! Been thinking that since I first heard of it.

Possibly just purely based on my own visceral reaction to the idea of the movie.
 
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Raptor

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Canuck76 said:
I don't think so. It's a proven property. Yes Franco is weird and stonerish but i think people get interested when they see that witch hand come out in that trailer.

I don't think it does gangbusters but it's no john carter or mars needs mom type flop either
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Anyways, who's playing that green witch?
 
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Bobby Roberts

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3N16MA said:
Alice did $1,024,299,904 WW. Impressive if OZ gets within $200 million of that.
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I keep forgetting to tag "domestic" - I'm old, it takes me awhile to adjust. Yeah, I'm thinking this COULD do 300-320 mil. Dunno if the worldwide markets would be as taken with Oz as America might be.
 
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