Amazon Customer Support makes the customer feel like a King (or Queen), which is one of Amazon's prides and reason to shop with them. I don't think that would change over something like this, personally.
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Amazon Customer Support makes the customer feel like a King (or Queen), which is one of Amazon's prides and reason to shop with them. I don't think that would change over something like this, personally.
Talk to a rep, and ask for a games specialist. They would be able to break down exactly what the credit breakdown is.
toastyToast
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You guys already know what the credit is for. Unless Amazon is cool with giving universal credit worth several times more than the items used to earn them then yeah... ok
Sounds like someone messed up. I'm sure if you asked Tony it would have been a firm "No"
Sounds like someone messed up. I'm sure if you asked Tony it would have been a firm "No"
Exactly. Shark Johnson even edited out his details so Tony 'wouldn't try and get at him.' If what he thought he did was nothing wrong, then why the worry?
I don't like this kind of abusing the system. Maybe I'm naive (or stupid), but I wouldn't want someone to cheat me, so I won't do that to Amazon, even though they are an evil multinational corporation that would kick my dog and punch my mother just to make me cry. Especially when said evil corporation has one of the best customer support services I've ever seen in my life, and are quick to offer me refunds whenever a shipment is late (this was another opportunity I had to screw them over, because they had offered me a full refund if my Scott Pilgrim comics didn't arrive in a month's time from my e-mail complaint to CS. As they came the following week, I didn't ask them for it, but they refunded me the shipment charges anyway as soon as I first contacted them, as an apology -even though I never asked for it). So yeah, I don't condone this kind of practices in any case, but I think it's even worse when it's done against a company that almost always benefits the customer.
But whatever, I'm no one to judge. I'm very happy with the deals I already got legitimately.
But whatever, I'm no one to judge. I'm very happy with the deals I already got legitimately.
CambriaRising
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Equating getting a coupon transferred to piracy? Get a fucking grip.
Only available though the Bioware site, as far as I know.
derExperte
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Interesting logic. Problem is you didn't really spend your money, you used virtual vouchers you got for digital games meant for specific virtual goods to buy real stuff. In the end it's Amazon's fault but how about stop pretending this was a good thing for them? They let you rip them off.
Yes, only way and I can't remember any sales lately. At least not for PC.
LiquidMetal14
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You're kidding me right? Not even an Amazon rep can tell me what some of my specific credits are for. Give me a break. I have separate promos on my account that are not from game promos like the 5 dollar ones and a phone rep couldn't even tell me what they were for.
Some may be trying to be coy but spare us of this stone casting before knowing all the facts please.
I agree the whole thing is kind of shady, but he does have a point on the free Origin games thing. I remember people high-fiving each other for getting dozens of free games out of something that everyone knew was a mistake. Almost seems like that was ok because people dislike EA.
Not to mention several other occasions where people were abusing promotions to get free Live points.
jediyoshi
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Not sure if all the cogs are spinning here for this.
toastyToast
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You need Bioware points. I think they 'can' go on sale but that's rarely. Last time was in March
Sgt.Pepper
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They are not even in the same kind of offense. Coupons you get by buying isn't the same as downloading shit for free.
EA/Origin has sales, but I think it is mostly for the games itself, not the DLC.
Steam keys to boot.
I don't think Amazon owes me anything, but at the same time, I love a good deal as much as the next guy.
The ethics of employing a company's marketing tactics to your advantage are a grey area at worst, and honestly, it benefits these companies a million times more than it could ever benefit us.
Dishonesty is dealing falsely, or taking something that isn't yours.
All of this activity supports Amazon and Steam.
The ethics of employing a company's marketing tactics to your advantage are a grey area at worst, and honestly, it benefits these companies a million times more than it could ever benefit us.
Dishonesty is dealing falsely, or taking something that isn't yours.
All of this activity supports Amazon and Steam.
DUFFMCWALIN
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I would like to know where you can find your promo codes as well. Is it buried somewhere?
Transferring free credit for a F2P game to credit you can use to purchase items from Amazon *is* the same thing as downloading for free. You're just cheating Amazon out of money instead of the game company.
If I put out a thousand flyers that say "Free pizza!", and a thousand people show up to get free pizzas, I'm already out the cost of pizza.
Whatever else I'm selling, I'm up the cost of getting people in the door.
To play devil's advocate here, with the Origin debacle those were EA games, so they didn't suffer a monetary hit, only potential lost revenue. But in Amazon's case, they aren't the developers or publishers of the titles, and I'm sure they had to pay for the keys in advance before selling them. So they are actually suffering a monetary loss, not just missed revenue.
CambriaRising
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A better analogy would be that you bought a Pizza and got a coupon for 20% off another pizza, but instead were allowed to use it on hot wings because the cashier said it was cool.
What are you talking about?
Don't forget that the boss later discounts it from the cashier's paycheck.
This.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It is shady but also something Amazon needs to let me see or fix on their end since they can't even tell me where all my promo credit came from. I only want those answers that cropped up after I checked my game credit and asked them what I could use it for. It's confusing and even a phone rep was perplexed by it.
Anyways, I'm done talking about this because I'm an honest customer who just wants answers so if I get them fine. If not then so be it.
Isn't that how many people justify piracy? "I wouldn't have bought it anyway, so they aren't losing any money"?
Not that I lost any sleep over the Origin thing and I don't feel strongly either way about the Amazon one, but it's weird to me that people would be ok with one and not the other.
Contact an Amazon rep, and ask for a games specialist. They were the ones that gave me a breakdown of my credit. Took them two days to get back to me, but I did it through email. There is also a phone option with them.
LiquidMetal14
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Yeah, I'm going that route to get that clarity.
Yeah, I kind of remember a lot of that being $10.00 in stuff like Mafia wars or some other F2P stuff. Guess that's why they are working on a new system, you can't really tell what they are for other until you actually go to check out.
Holy shit what did I miss hahaha
Yes, but these were legitimate copies of the games, only with not-so-legitimate means of acquisition. But I already said that I'm no one to judge, everybody knows what their limit is. Mine was the Origin screw-up (which I took advantage of), others think this Amazon thing is fair game, and maybe some random guy thinks it's OK to download a torrent of a pirated game.
But again, the EA mistake was allowing their own games to be downloaded for free from their servers, while Amazon's is allowing people to get keys for other devs' games, which they probably had to buy prior to this.
blame space
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is nba still on sale? I just got off. I shouldn't buy it, I've already bought so much.
Get it, and don't think twice about it. Incredible game.
Visualante2
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Won't somebody please think of the corporations!
This analogy doesn't work. You got 14(?) coupons that can be used towards 14 separate games priced $4.99 or higher. You can only use 1 coupon per transaction. Sure you could use all of your coupons on random $4.99 titles and pay $0, but clearly the purpose is to get people to spend money on Amazon, getting a bit of discount in the process. What some people are trying to do is take those 14 (or whatever) coupons and get $70 of universal credit that can be used on anything all at once. Instead of getting $5 off up to 14 different games, you can go pick out $70 worth of merchandise and pay nothing for it. That's obviously not what the credits are for. Even more so if that universal credit can be applied towards physical products.
A better analogy would be that you saved up 10 of those "20% off your next pizza" coupons and tried out different cashiers until you got someone to agree to give you 2 pizzas for free even though the coupons were marked as 1 per purchase.
My account has $154 in gaming credit. Looking back over my purchases, I paid a total of $41 for two ridiculously cheap packages of games, dark souls, and some Civ 5 DLC for a GAF member who couldn't get the site to work. Unless they were exclusively buying $50 new releases, I doubt anyone spent an amount equal to the credit they have sitting on their account. I was getting $25 a purchase between the $5 coupons and F2P vouchers. Abusing the (already generous) offers is just going to ensure that this sort of deal doesn't happen next year. Look at how shitty the Steam Sale was this year after people exploited the hell out of last year's metagame.
Yes.
oh, great. thanks. didn't know that
Rawket Lawnchair
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It's great that NBA 2K13returned, picked it up without remorse.
Pachterballs
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well, the amazon thread just went to the shits with all this "credit" business.
It was a joke, jabroni. Tony and I are real bros on a forum that isn't CAG. The details I edited out are personal info.
And what the fuck would he even do? My order already shipped and I paid money out of pocket for 2/3 of the total cost. They're not going to get mad at me.
Hotline Miami is 4.99 in the editor's choice and the coupon code works on it! Go go go!
I wonder if this is going to "lower" the games' value. I feel a bit guilty about grabbing this. I've bought and gifted many copies already but...
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