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The 9070 XT has unimpressive power efficiency, because they pushed clocks hard. The 9070 is much better.
AMD Radeon RX 9070 (XT) im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme und OC
AMD Radeon RX 9070 (XT) im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme und OC / Lautstärke & Kühlung / Temperaturen unter Last
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Zathalus
Member
Rather pointless as no two cards OC the same. Especially when it comes to memory. The 5000 series cards can OC as well, some even better than this.
Better to just use stock results, where the 9070 XT is great.
metareferential
Member
That's maybe because on the gpu side they're still far behind, no matter how good these cards (only the XT) look.
FSR is finally ok, and raytracing is usable, but they still fall behind nvidia for anything else (and if the 5070 had 16gb...).
With Ryzen they have a great or the best cpu for every price, and they're clearly at the top in the high end.
To mimic what they've done with Ryzen they should price these things much more aggresively, and have a high end successor that reaches at least the 4090 while beating it handily in price.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
that's great!The 9070 XT has unimpressive power efficiency, because they pushed clocks hard. The 9070 is much better.
AMD Radeon RX 9070 (XT) im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme und OC
AMD Radeon RX 9070 (XT) im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme und OC / Lautstärke & Kühlung / Temperaturen unter Last
can't wait for the 50-100 dollar price drop on the 9070 in 2 months from now though
demigod
Member
And not everyone overclocks their cards.
twilo99
Member
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
what else is there? I want a graphics card to play games with. Not this multitasking do it all shit that drives up the price of the card and ruins the market.
feels like you're downplaying the improvements made to FSR4 quite a bit too.
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Lucifers Beard
Member
Very interesting reviews. I'm wondering if it would be worth upgrading from a 3080 10GB to the 9070XT and if I'll really see any real world differences.
Madflavor
Member
It also depends a lot on what your current GPU is. For me I have a 3080 10gb, so a 20-25% performance upgrade, with 6gb more vram, at $600 the price (assuming you can get that price), is currently the best bang for my buck upgrade that I'm seeing.
FingerBang
Member
Slightly slower performance than expected based on AMD's own slides (but that's to be expected), and honestly MSRP vs MSRP we're not in a position where they're offering a ton more value BUT looking at the real price of the 5070ti, these cards have more than a shot at MSRP.
The RT performance is amazing coming from RDNA3, FSR4 seems a huge step ahead, but AMD is still behind Nvidia in those. It's a huge jump ahead those.
Now, 9070XT MSRP vs actual Nvidia price is a no brainer. I'm sure the 5070ti will eventually ve available at 750 and AMD will magically find a way to make the 9070 550 and 450 as it was expected but they really missed a chance here to make a big splash.
I still think this is the best card to buy if you want the best bang for your buck, but you only get to launch your product once and AMD shouldn have been more aggressive.
The RT performance is amazing coming from RDNA3, FSR4 seems a huge step ahead, but AMD is still behind Nvidia in those. It's a huge jump ahead those.
Now, 9070XT MSRP vs actual Nvidia price is a no brainer. I'm sure the 5070ti will eventually ve available at 750 and AMD will magically find a way to make the 9070 550 and 450 as it was expected but they really missed a chance here to make a big splash.
I still think this is the best card to buy if you want the best bang for your buck, but you only get to launch your product once and AMD shouldn have been more aggressive.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I am in exactly the same spot. Updated 3700x to 5700x3d or cheap. Added more ram. Only gpu remains 3080 10gb.
But who am I kidding. I am maining ps5 pro anyway
metareferential
Member
It was a broader look at their offering.
The XT variant looks to be a great card. The 5070ti at retail price (it's doable) still is a compelling choice, even if a bit more expensive, getting you more compatibility with the better upscaler, better raytracing and more features (gsync, reflex, etc.).
Anyone buying the 5070 is outright crazy. Just get a used 4070ti instead. Hell, even a 3090 could be a great choice.
That is to say this gen is cursed xD
Insane Metal
Member
AMD actually delivering. Now this is something we aren't used to seeing (in GPUs at least).
Zathalus
Member
I think it should be around a 45% performance uplift vs a 3080.
delishcaek
Member
The Sapphire 9070Xt uses a 12V-2x6 with a 3 8pin adapter, however the connector isn't a problem for 300w cards so no need to worry about this.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Any Gigabyte 9070XT Reviews??
Wolzard
Member
Linux benchmarks:
www.phoronix.com
AMD Radeon RX 9070 + RX 9070 XT Linux Performance Review - Phoronix
www.phoronix.com
Rudius
Member
The biggest problem in the NVidia side is the 5070 with 12GB of VRAM. That's is not enough right now for some settings it would otherwise run, let alone in the near future.
AMD has a minimum viable card at 550 and a better one at 600, while the lowest card that can be recommended from NVidia is 750. And all that ignoring the real prices
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Makes me wish they didn't puss out and not include a high end variant.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
I can always get another aib that uses 8pin though, right?
delishcaek
Member
Yes, yes, of course. Just throwing it out there that some are apparently using the 12pin connector, so it's best to not go in blind and check what connector they use before you buy one.
Wolzard
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SolidQ
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Ogbert
Member
Buy it.
SakkanartSilentJealousy
Member
Impressive. Could be my next upgrade.
Ogbert
Member
Reizo Ryuu
Member
waiting for prices like
Buggy Loop
Member
waiting for prices like
That's what I was about to ask. We don't have the AIB prices yet?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
nope nothing yet.
AGRacing
Member
One review I saw showed 849 for the top end XFX Mercury Magnetic Air. That’ll be about the top of the stack .
599 - 849
It was Jays 2 cents
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The ASUS 9070 XT TUF OC showed at 10490 SEK here in Sweden from one retailer for a bit, which is the same as 5070 Ti MSRP. MSRP is 7999 SEK (w/ 25% VAT) so +30% or so.
Wolzard
Member
Overclocking
www.techpowerup.com
Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ Review - Beating NVIDIA
AMD's new RDNA 4 GPUs are launching today. The Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ is a fantastic custom design with powerful cooling and whisper-quiet fans. In terms of FPS, the RX 9070 XT offers competitive performance with similarly priced NVIDIA options in both raster and ray tracing.
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ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
It shits to bed in Black Myth(31 vs 15 fps), Alan Wake 2(31 vs 19 fps) and Indiana Jones(26 vs 7 fps) in 4k/RT on, but it's pretty close to the 5070ti overall, which is great. Maybe they can improve it with new drivers. The fact that it can draw over 400 watts might be too much for my 750watt psu. I’m still not convinced by any new card yet, so I’ll stick with my 3060Ti for a while.
Buggy Loop
Member
Only reason I wanted to upgrade from 3080 Ti is for path tracing and while its a huge improvement gen to gen on AMD side its not performing for the games I thought to myself I needed more power.
Gamers nexus or hardware unboxed didn't even bench cyberpunk overdrive path tracing, wtf?
Surely someone bench'd those?
Gamers nexus or hardware unboxed didn't even bench cyberpunk overdrive path tracing, wtf?
Surely someone bench'd those?
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iQuasarLV
Member
Easy answer, it is shit performance on both 9070xt and 5070 and 5070 Ti. There no need to waste time and effort for an obvious answer.
Buggy Loop
Member
5070 Ti (I really don't want that card) shows acceptable performances for Black myth wukong path tracing so why not Cyberpunk 2077 overdrive which performs imho better?
There's no acceptable answer to skip on path tracing benchmarks. A LOT of peoples are stuck with older gen cards who basically only need to upgrade for these monster performance games. I really don't care to get >150 fps on F1 24 raster.
So just to be clear, not a single reviewer tested a 9070 XT cyberpunk overdrive?
SolidQ
there was a leak that it performed good in that game, what's going on?
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iQuasarLV
Member
26FPS @ 4k RT Ultra in CyberPunk 2077. That is acceptable framerates? We are not the same.5070 Ti (I really don't want that card) shows acceptable performances for Black myth wukong path tracing so why not Cyberpunk 2077 overdrive which performs imho better?
There's no acceptable answer to skip on path tracing benchmarks. A LOT of peoples are stuck with older gen cards who basically only need to upgrade for these monster performance games. I really don't care to get >150 fps on F1 24 raster.
So just to be clear, not a single reviewer tested a 9070 XT cyberpunk overdrive?
Zathalus
Member
Well no, you wouldn’t game at native 4K.
iQuasarLV
Member
If you are going to bitch and moan about Path Tracing on a mid-range current gen card then you are most obviously going to game at or near as possible to native 4k. Otherwise, why even bring up the topic?