dgrdsv
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Nah, this MSRP is great. It will basically kill of the 5060Ti 8GB in the DIY channel.
Think of it this way: it's the repeat of the high end scenario where a faster performing card gets the same price while a slightly slower card gets a significantly lower price. Only this time this slightly slower card also gets double the VRAM which is a killer combination.
The only question is if they will actually hit such prices in practice. 9070's track record isn't good in this regard.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I think we will see the card under $400. Since even in US you can get 5060Ti 16GB at MSRP if you look.
dgrdsv
Member
9070 is still at considerably higher price inflation than competing Nvidia parts which launched a month and a half earlier and 9060 is also coming a couple of months later than 5060Ti and a month later than 5060.
5060Ti 16GB is at at least +$50 in the US right now. Which isn't a lot considering everything but it's still not an MSRP - and the card was spanked by the media to no end so there may be way less enthusiasm to purchase it.
And retail prices are a function of demand, if some product gets all the demand its price rises through the roof.
I dunno, we'll see.
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rm082e
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I did two weeks ago. The 10GB of VRAM was getting really tight. I knew I was going to have to upgrade, and I don't have confidence the market is going to get better in the next year or so. I saw a Sapphire Pulse on Newegg for $879. It's too much money but I really wanted to avoid Nvidia this time.
The new card provided a bigger jump in Oblivion than I expected - it basically doubled my frame rate, and almost got rid of the stuttering completely. The open world was really rough on the 3080 - drops down into the 30s. I have also played some of, or at least booted up : Control, Fortnite, TLOU 1 & 2, Red Dead 2, Resident Evil 4, and AC Valhalla. I was getting over 100fps in all of them at QHD. The card also runs cool and is silent as far as I can tell. My 3080 was getting pretty loud.
The AMD Adrenaline software works great. I've got my stats overlay in the upper right just like I used to have with MSI Afterburner. I haven't had any crashes, display artifacts or anything like that. It's been as plug-and-play as Nvidia stuff was for me over the last many years.
StereoVsn
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I have seen 5060Ti for MSRP at Microcenter a few times. But it's certainly going to be interesting to see how everything settles down.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I have seen 5060Ti for MSRP at Microcenter a few times. But it's certainly going to be interesting to see how everything settles down.
LavitzSlambert
Member
It's absurd to see the 9700XT selling for basically the same price as the 5070ti. The MSRP was competitive, this $150 to $200 markup is not.
DenchDeckard
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Hey all. My 9070 XT arrives next week. I decided to show AMD some love.
How is everyone getting on with theirs? Worst case I sell it in the future but im kinda happy to be going with an all AMD build.
Just need my cpu and my "small form factor" build will be complete.
How is everyone getting on with theirs? Worst case I sell it in the future but im kinda happy to be going with an all AMD build.
Just need my cpu and my "small form factor" build will be complete.
winjer
Member
Here in Portugal there is still a difference between those 2. But MSRP is complete BS.
For example, the Asus Prime model, is 770€ for the 9070XT and 900€ for the 5070Ti.
FFS, these are supposed to be mid range GPUs, but have the price of what were high end GPUs, just a handful of years ago.
M1987
Member
A great card,can finally run RT as good as Nvidia unless it's Path Tracing,and FSR4 is amazing
Kataploom
Gold Member
Isn't Redstone supposed to fix the PT performance by bypassing the BVH step (which is what makes RT and PT so slow and can't be done in the GPU as of now)?
And BTW, how is RT working on Linux these days?
Crayon
Member
Just speaking for rdna2, seems like performance was where it should be. Can't say exactly how it compares to windows but it's not broken or anything.
Kataploom
Gold Member
I meant 9070 XT, I think there were reports of RT performance being way lower than on Windows
Crayon
Member
I'll find out soon!
M1987
Member
I seen the announcement the other day but I didn't bother reading about it.If they can improve PT then that would be great.
No idea about Linux,I have only ever used Windows
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Its an outstanding GPU. Very happy when I had mine....frankly I am missing it.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
At my local MC, the cheapest 9070Xt is $799, which is no longer great bang for the buck.
WHile the cheapest 5070 Ti is $869. Theyve had a few at $799 fairly regularly.
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DenchDeckard
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I'll give this bad boy a try out ive got a gigabyte windforce oc on the way. Hopefully it fits in the 2000D case I have.
I just want to be able to lay on the sofa and have a great experience on my 65 inch TV and potentially move fully away from consoles. Im hoping the 9070XT is enough to drive my screen.
Looking forward to it.
I just want to be able to lay on the sofa and have a great experience on my 65 inch TV and potentially move fully away from consoles. Im hoping the 9070XT is enough to drive my screen.
Looking forward to it.
DenchDeckard
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Its here. Looks like im building my "console /pc" this weekend.
Crayon
Member
Its here. Looks like im building my "console /pc" this weekend.
Me too!
BeardSpike
Member
I have the same card in my Lian Li A3 mATX build. Good luck!Its here. Looks like im building my "console /pc" this weekend.
Bojji
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You got yourself a solid GPU.Its here. Looks like im building my "console /pc" this weekend.
My 5070 Ti has done great on my living room PC, I do miss this GPU which is what I originally had.
If Bazzite/AMD/HDMI Forum can get HDMI 2.1 supported fully in Linux, I will switch back so quickly and happily trade my 5070 Ti for a 9070XT.
Also watch this Tech Yes City video on undervolting. You can easily shave off 50 -100W of power usage with little to ANY performance lost.
For real watch this and you will be happy.
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SolidQ
Member
mlid said and show picture it's lab sample, where AMD testing FSR redstone. it's might not release or answer for 5080 super.
Soodanim
Gold Member
I set a power limit of -30% every time, but I haven't really pushed the undervolt too much. I default to -40, and the only time I think to try something is when I'm also messing around with other things that may or may not be the cause of crashes so it's hard to say whether the -50 I try is the problem.
It's a shame you don't seem to be able to set a profile for custom tuning, every time there's a crash it resets and I have to re-do everything including fan profile.
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DenchDeckard
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Im having a weird thing where when I switch my pc on, one fan on my 9070 xt goes mental then as soon as im in windows it's fine.
I'll keep an eye on it
I'll keep an eye on it
winjer
Member
Some GPU vendors have the fans go to full speed when the PC boots. But usually, it's all fans at the same time, for a couple of seconds, to test functionality.
Your GPU might have dual BIOS, one with a more aggressive curve for fans. See if there is an option for that.
Before Windows loads, and the GPU drivers, there's no software actively managing the GPU's fan speed based on temperature. So your GPU might have the fan profile to just go full speed during boot time.
You can also check if all cables on the GPU are well seated. As well as the GPU. Just to make sure things are alright.
DenchDeckard
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Yeah i think its fine as soon as It did it i reseated everything. Checked all power.
Im up and running and in windows and all is silent.
Well chuffed with this build.
Topher
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Had a conversation about this earlier in the thread that might help.
Some cards have a Performance bios and Silent Bios switch. My Asus TUF has the switch- I flipped it on the card and now its far quieter.
ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 9070 XT OC Edition
ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 9070 XT OC offers ultimate durability and cooling performance with military-grade components and a phase change GPU thermal pad.www.asus.com
DenchDeckard
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Ahhhhh. Thanks Man. I do have it on performance from looking it up and it's now all installed and looking sweet. I might switch it.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
man this aged like shitthat's great!
can't wait for the 50-100 dollar price drop on the 9070 in 2 months from now though
Crayon
Member
Its here. Looks like im building my "console /pc" this weekend.
Hows it going so far? I threw some shit in last night. Now I'm feeling pretty lazy lol. I get to open the gpu next so that will be fun.
edit: awe damn you're way ahead of me
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hououinkyouma00
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Looks nice! I thought about getting one and giving my 4070S to my girlfriend but as of a couple days ago both the wifi and bluetooth went out on my motherboard and I don't want to spend that much money on my PC as if I'm gonna buy a new motherboard I'm gonna move to AM5 and that's gonna require CPU/MB/GPU.Yeah i think its fine as soon as It did it i reseated everything. Checked all power.
Im up and running and in windows and all is silent.
Well chuffed with this build.
Is your Series X the actual Halo one or a skin? I missed the chance to get a real one so I skinned my last Xbox. Same thing with my PS5 Pro as I bought 30th Anniversary plates and a center skin for it.
DenchDeckard
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Aw, man. Sorry to hear about the mobo. That sucks.
Im looking forward to this full AMD build. I need to open her up and flip this bios switch for the GPU as that is my only issue right now. The system is silent apart from the gpu.
Yeah, it's the halo anniversary edition series x.
DenchDeckard
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Stoked! This is legit!
BeardSpike
Member
Looks nice! Is this some Fractal Design case?Stoked! This is legit!
GitHub - cdozdil/OptiScaler: OptiScaler bridges upscaling/frame gen across GPUs. Supports DLSS2+/XeSS/FSR2+ inputs, replaces native upscalers, enables FSR3 FG on non-FG titles. Supports Nukem mod for DLSSG-to-FSR3 FG.
OptiScaler bridges upscaling/frame gen across GPUs. Supports DLSS2+/XeSS/FSR2+ inputs, replaces native upscalers, enables FSR3 FG on non-FG titles. Supports Nukem mod for DLSSG-to-FSR3 FG. - cdozdi...
github.com
GitHub - beeradmoore/dlss-swapper
Contribute to beeradmoore/dlss-swapper development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
Use these tools to inject newest FSR3/DLSS/XeSS inputs and use FSR4.
OptiScaler works with Clair Obscur and I tested it on Blades of Fire demo and Stellar Blade demo - it launched without issues.
Crayon
Member
Ah, I really love working in a small case.
The 9070 XT was easily within the length maximum but the case is designed in a way that made it either impossible, or at least confounding to get the card in. Case needed some persuasion, but everything is in.
Looks great. After all these years, this is the first time I've built with any consideration to looks. I think it was worth it. Had to invest in a modular sfx psu, buy a cooler to replace the one in my newegg bundle, and I spent another $10 to replace the fan on the cooler with a matching one. So cost some extra to get it looking good but this is for the living room and it's fully visible in the entertainment center.
Haven't bothered to turn it on. If it turns on lol. I'm going to clean up this mountain of packaging and I'll get into all that later.
The 9070 XT was easily within the length maximum but the case is designed in a way that made it either impossible, or at least confounding to get the card in. Case needed some persuasion, but everything is in.
Looks great. After all these years, this is the first time I've built with any consideration to looks. I think it was worth it. Had to invest in a modular sfx psu, buy a cooler to replace the one in my newegg bundle, and I spent another $10 to replace the fan on the cooler with a matching one. So cost some extra to get it looking good but this is for the living room and it's fully visible in the entertainment center.
Haven't bothered to turn it on. If it turns on lol. I'm going to clean up this mountain of packaging and I'll get into all that later.
hououinkyouma00
Member
What case are you building in?Ah, I really love working in a small case.
The 9070 XT was easily within the length maximum but the case is designed in a way that made it either impossible, or at least confounding to get the card in. Case needed some persuasion, but everything is in.
Looks great. After all these years, this is the first time I've built with any consideration to looks. I think it was worth it. Had to invest in a modular sfx psu, buy a cooler to replace the one in my newegg bundle, and I spent another $10 to replace the fan on the cooler with a matching one. So cost some extra to get it looking good but this is for the living room and it's fully visible in the entertainment center.
Haven't bothered to turn it on. If it turns on lol. I'm going to clean up this mountain of packaging and I'll get into all that later.
Crayon
Member
Amazon special. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DNML48H2?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
Quality is questionable. I think it looks great from the exterior, with the possible exception of the little silver loops looking cheap. They don't look quite like toys, but nothing like metal.
All of the bracketry fit. Hardware and threads are dodgy. The back wall curves deeply onto the open side, which was the part interfering with the card.
Overall, I like it. It's got the shape, style, 4 front ports, and the mesh design. And it's compact but not small enough that things become frustrating. Really happy with it and it happened to be very cheap.
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CrustyBritches
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I've been loving my 9070XT. Total rocked in DOOM Dark Ages. Only bummer was that AMD hasn't gotten it to work with Vulkan yet. I ran 1440p, XeSS 'Ultra Quality+', Ultra and couple Ultra Nightmare Settings, AFMF via Adrenaline with High and Quality preset, and RIS2. More or less 120fps without AFMF, 240fps with AFMF.
Hopefully we see a lot more games with official FSR4 support. Thank goodness for Optiscaler. Recently used it in the Steller Blade demo. A godsend since FSR3 and TAA look poor in comparison, and the game doesn't have XeSS.
Hopefully we see a lot more games with official FSR4 support. Thank goodness for Optiscaler. Recently used it in the Steller Blade demo. A godsend since FSR3 and TAA look poor in comparison, and the game doesn't have XeSS.
DenchDeckard
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Ah, I really love working in a small case.
The 9070 XT was easily within the length maximum but the case is designed in a way that made it either impossible, or at least confounding to get the card in. Case needed some persuasion, but everything is in.
Looks great. After all these years, this is the first time I've built with any consideration to looks. I think it was worth it. Had to invest in a modular sfx psu, buy a cooler to replace the one in my newegg bundle, and I spent another $10 to replace the fan on the cooler with a matching one. So cost some extra to get it looking good but this is for the living room and it's fully visible in the entertainment center.
Haven't bothered to turn it on. If it turns on lol. I'm going to clean up this mountain of packaging and I'll get into all that later.
I played all night layed on my sofa and it was bliss.
Well worth it.
I have a concern with my 9070 XT which is slightly putting me off.
it's just the faffing im going to have to do to get FSR in games.
Playing expedition 33 and it obviously still looks leagues better than console but XeSS just doesn't compare to DLSS
Its frustrating that DLSS is so good haha.
I haven't played anything with FSR4 yet. So I should deffo give that a try.
Building in the 2000D was actually easy once id thought about it and planned it out. All fit super well and it looks awesome in my room I think.
9800X3D is crazy and runs pretty cool in this case with a 360 rad.
Very happy with the build just need to contemplate the 9070 XT. I'll try injecting some FSR and see how much of a ball ache it is.
Amazing card though.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Optiscaler is pretty easy to use once you've done it a couple of times. Download it and extract it to it's own folder, find the file "amdxcffx64.dll" on your PC and copy it to the Optiscaler folder, then put it somewhere easy to access. When you have a game you want to use it with just copy the files in the folder to game root with the main .exe. Run OptiScaler Setup, choose Option 1, Option 1, and then if you want to try DLSS inputs select 1, then close. Something that I had to do on Win10, so I still do it now on Win11 is open the Optiscaler config, search "Agility", and set "AgilitySDK to 'True'. Helps with crashing. Run the game and set it to either FSR3 or DLSS, depending on whether you chose to use DLSS inputs during setup. Hit Insert key, select Source as FSR3, then below in the box it should change to FSR4 as the upscaler. Lastly hit save .ini. That's it. Seems like a lot the first time, but it's like 30secs of shit once you've done it.
In Clair Obscur FSR4 looks better than the included DLSS from what I've tested. Haven't tried Transformer override yet. Whether you stick with 9070XT is up to you. I got mine for $680. Cheapest 5070Ti at the time was like $850. It was a no-brainer. I know things have changed a bit with 9070XT being as expensive, or even more expensive lately. Bummer AMD didn't release a reference model that stuck to the $600 msrp.
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Soodanim
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Assuming Win11, it might not be as much faffing as you think. If you keep an OptiScaler folder somewhere (I have a folder for various utilies), you can pin that to Quick Access or Start, then when you get a new game with no FSR4 (should reduce as time goes on) just open up the game folder, open up a second tab for OS, then copy the files across. If you also keep a copy of fakenvapi.dll (needed for AMD cards) in that same folder you've got it down to a quick copy paste for a new game.
In terms of config, I haven't played with it too much but it seems to be mostly a case of tweaking a setting or two (Insert to bring up in game menu).
FSR4 Compatibility List
OptiScaler bridges upscaling/frame gen across GPUs. Supports DLSS2+/XeSS/FSR2+ inputs, replaces native upscalers, enables FSR3 FG on non-FG titles. Supports Nukem mod for DLSSG-to-FSR3 FG. - cdozdi...
github.com
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DenchDeckard
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Assuming Win11, it might not be as much faffing as you think. If you keep an OptiScaler folder somewhere (I have a folder for various utilies), you can pin that to Quick Access or Start, then when you get a new game with no FSR4 (should reduce as time goes on) just open up the game folder, open up a second tab for OS, then copy the files across. If you also keep a copy of fakenvapi.dll (needed for AMD cards) in that same folder you've got it down to a quick copy paste for a new game.
In terms of config, I haven't played with it too much but it seems to be mostly a case of tweaking a setting or two (Insert to bring up in game menu).
FSR4 Compatibility List
OptiScaler bridges upscaling/frame gen across GPUs. Supports DLSS2+/XeSS/FSR2+ inputs, replaces native upscalers, enables FSR3 FG on non-FG titles. Supports Nukem mod for DLSSG-to-FSR3 FG. - cdozdi...
Beaten by 6 minutes by a more in depth post, ain't that some shit
Thanks so much guys. Im just new to amd cards (last was a 9700 pro when far cry 1 launched lol. Over 20 years ago) so ill watch a tutorial on this and 100 percent give it a go.
Im going to stick with the card. I really like it so far so knowing I can inject FSR is great. Just gotta get the routine down and then ill be fine.
Really appreciate the help
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Crayon
Member
That case does look great in there!
On Linux, you can also fiddle with things to get the fsr4 on, and I'll have to wait a while before development catches up. I have to wait for that and then wait for games to expose it properly from their menus.
That and the rt performance is lagging on Linux. You get used to being patient for this sort of thing.
But development on it looks to be going strong and in a year it'll be a memory. In the meantime, it's fast enough to be a big upgrade.
So funny I woke up and you were already done. I've been on and off mine all through the long day. But it's finally alive. Bios is updated and ready for an install.
I was going to try steamos buuuuttt.... Bazzite has been so good. We've happily been using the desktop variant in the tv. I liked it so much I installed it on my tablet, too. I'm going to split the different and try the htpc version of bazzite.