The Faceless Master
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it crushes it in everything except low light
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it crushes it in everything except low light
Smartphone sensor size is at best 1/3.2", this camera has a 1/2.3" sensor and optical zoom.
DSLR with a connected OS will eventually come.
Vanillalite
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Yes, but it's $500 + a monthly fee, and a lot of the $500 charge has to go into the computer side of this phone.
You can get a point and shoot for half the price that's better, and if you are going to spend $500 + you best be getting something like a Canon ti3.
Sure it's better than most smartphone cameras, but you already own that device. This device is going to be extra, and the only thing it'll do better is take pictures with a mobile upload option. Except if you are going to buy and carry around a 2nd device just because you want better pictures why not get a device that takes better pics which are a much better value for the money your spending?
Again your basically spending $500 on a mediocre point and shoot that also has mobile tech build in. I've still yet to see anyone justify buying this device.
I've got my Nexus 4 and am going to try and start using Google Music. I uploaded everything from my PC, but downloading to the phone would obviously take ages when I can just plug it in and drag drop across. So I did that, but the playlists don't sync across, the ones I make on my PC in the web browser only appear when I have 'all music' selected rather than device only. Is there a way around this without downloading 8gb of music to my phone over wifi?
edit: Also just noticed censorship on tracks marked explicit (on Drake - Take Care) :/ There's no point in using this on my desktop if it isn't going to play what I could just play in fubar really.
edit: Also just noticed censorship on tracks marked explicit (on Drake - Take Care) :/ There's no point in using this on my desktop if it isn't going to play what I could just play in fubar really.
Nikon V1 was 899 1 year ago. You could get one with a kit lens from one of those deal sites for 250 yesterday.
You don't have to worry about the price. Let the market worry about the price.
Unknown Soldier
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Which is still worse than a digital point and shoot which sells for half the price. Unless you desperately need to post everything you shoot to your Facebook right this instant, it's still a terrible value proposition.
I expect the Galaxy Camera II will have better optics and sensor though. This is just Samsung testing just how bad the picture quality has to be before no one will buy it.
The Faceless Master
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looks like another phone has been renamed post release.
Sprint's Samsung Galaxy S II, Epic 4G Touch (yes, the comma is a part of the name) is now officially referred to as the Samsung Galaxy S® II on their website.
going with the name that garners more attention now eh...
Sprint's Samsung Galaxy S II, Epic 4G Touch (yes, the comma is a part of the name) is now officially referred to as the Samsung Galaxy S® II on their website.
going with the name that garners more attention now eh...
shinshoryuken
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Even the top tier camera of the Pureview 808 can't touch the mighty Sony RX100 point & shoot.
oh I hated the pureview 808 so much...
the sony rx100 made me a believer that a point&shoot still need to exist.
Damn, back-branding. Thats crazy. I wonder how hard it was to get Sprint to let go of the Epic branding. Carriers fucking love having their own little names it seems. HTC needs to get Sprint to vacate the EVO shit too.
the RX100 is amazing, I hope to get it someday
The Faceless Master
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probably not too hard now that the Galaxy S name is a big deal.
The EVO was a good branding when first debuting. Then the shift came...then the 3D. I don't even know what model they're on now.
anyone else using the swiftkey flow beta and think its a massive step back? I like using the swyping but the prediction seems to be really bad compared to usual swiftkey. Its also very hard to swype words like 'poor', 'sweet' and lots of others.
it feels like its worse than the stock android swype keyboard. if the normal swiftkey typing prediction wasn't so good i'd just use stock, but i think stock will catch up soon...
it feels like its worse than the stock android swype keyboard. if the normal swiftkey typing prediction wasn't so good i'd just use stock, but i think stock will catch up soon...
All the 10x P&S have the same 1/2.3" Sony sensor. There is no point to argue which one has better sensor. Some may have better glass.
If you want a high ratio 8x 10x zoom, there is very little you can change on the spec.
Vanillalite
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Honestly I feel like the latest version of Swype 1.35 has been better than the SwiftKey Flow Beta. The swyping doesn't seem to be as good, and the prediction is no where near the voodoo like abilities of normal SwiftKey. It's been rather disappointing in my usage over the past week or two.
Vanillalite
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So the Asia version of the One XL Jelly Bean hit yesterday. XDA already has a clean version for English users.
People are saying the new ROM is giving them a 1000 point boost in quadrant scores, and like 500ms less in sun spider. Impressive to say the least. Quad scores are in the 6000 range now.
People are saying the new ROM is giving them a 1000 point boost in quadrant scores, and like 500ms less in sun spider. Impressive to say the least. Quad scores are in the 6000 range now.
Vanillalite
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Maybe I just got Jelly Beaned on my galaxy S2? I just received an OTA for an update on my ATT Galaxy S2.
Its 80360KB (80.36 MB)
It's still ICS. Supposedly it bumps you up to 4.0.4.
Yep, and its installing ATT's bloatware right now. :\
Vanillalite
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GAF gonna hate me...
I switched from CM back to Sense over my break.
I switched from CM back to Sense over my break.
-Pyromaniac-
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so you tell everyone it's good enough for their daily driver and then you ditch it!GAF gonna hate me...
I switched from CM back to Sense over my break.
What made you switch back?
Vanillalite
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The Jelly Bean ROM for my phone from HTC finally hit in Asia. XDA of course already had the zip and stuff ready to go. Many of us were curious, but didn't want to switch from AOKP or CM. Yet I kept hearing good things so I wanted to check it out for myself.
To be fair I still like CM, and I might switch back. Plus I didn't switch back to old sense either.
GAF gonna hate me...
I switched from CM back to Sense over my break.
Meh. Go Launcher is the best.
So it doesn't matter what's underneath.
Vanillalite
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Yep browser benchmark and quad score went through the roof verses CM10 and old ICS Sense. I'll post pics later. G2G for now to see my GF graduate! 
-Pyromaniac-
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I see, well if the improvements you mentioned above are noticeable then I'd probably cave too.
I wish all carrier skins were as scaled back as Motorola's. Sense is just too much. I wonder what they'll do with 5.0.
I wish all carrier skins were as scaled back as Motorola's. Sense is just too much. I wonder what they'll do with 5.0.
Yep browser benchmark and quad score went through the roof verses CM10 and old ICS Sense. I'll post pics later. G2G for now to see my GF graduate!
thats interesting, I would have assumed the scores would be high in cm10 too (assuming you have updated to 4.1 not 4.2)
I just went to Sense 4+ after using cm10 on my one x and sense certainly seems to be able to do some voodoo with the battery life, it lasts way longer.
i just wish some parts of sense weren't so ugly...
GAF gonna hate me...
I switched from CM back to Sense over my break.
we don't judge you liking ugly things
Vanillalite
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Vanillalite
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I like fast things. Some of you obviously don't.
you like placebo, but thats cool
shinshoryuken
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I like having December ....
Randy Lanzarote
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I was just going through the settings for SwiftKey 3 and there is an option to select bluetooth keyboard layout and English (UK) is in there, so may be a cheaper option for you (I believe SwiftKey is on sale at the moment).
Vanillalite
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Yeah it's placebo... Even though everyone says it's faster and the benchmarks show it.
PS: just reran quadrant and my score went up even more.
Unknown Soldier
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Form > Function
Metalmurphy
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Can anyone recommend me the best Swype alternative?
Since the latest update Swype is now incredibly slow. It takes like 30 seconds to switch between dictionaries...
Since the latest update Swype is now incredibly slow. It takes like 30 seconds to switch between dictionaries...
OriginalThinking
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Experience > Benchmarks. If you honestly think Sense is a better experience than CM you are lost. Truly lost
-Pyromaniac-
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swiftkey? didn't they recently launch their swype like functionality.
BootlegSnackz
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Experience > Benchmarks. If you honestly think Sense is a better experience than CM you are lost. Truly lost
i dunno man, benchmarks have a way of placeboing peeps like a motherfucker
Sense 4+ isn't that bad. I went back to it after a good month or so of cm10. Loved cm10 but there were a few things it lacked. The 4.2 camera doesn't hold a candle to the sense one.
I had to bring some things over from cm10 to be happy though. Replaced the recent apps menu with the aosp one. Brought some cm10 ringtones and notifications over. 4.2 keyboard. Now I'm back to liking sense. We'll see how long it lasts before I jump back.
I had to bring some things over from cm10 to be happy though. Replaced the recent apps menu with the aosp one. Brought some cm10 ringtones and notifications over. 4.2 keyboard. Now I'm back to liking sense. We'll see how long it lasts before I jump back.
Unknown Soldier
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The world has changed. Try to keep up. Sense and TouchWiz aren't what they were in the Gingerbread days.Experience > Benchmarks. If you honestly think Sense is a better experience than CM you are lost. Truly lost
Only 5 apps allowed to run at a time still makes Sense a non-starter for me personally. But I can see how some people would like the improved functionality that it brings to the table.
-Pyromaniac-
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The problem with sense is that it's too over-designed. Keep what works from stock, and add in your shit on top. Not add your shit on everything. Like their multi-tasking is stupid, even their homescreen animation when you go left and right is a bit much. Cool at first, but too much none the less. They all suffer from that problem. Differentiation for the sake of it. I agree that the sense camera is probably the best one out, so keep it on. But a lot of other pointless stuff needs to goooooooooo.
Improve the experience, and nothing else.
Improve the experience, and nothing else.
Vanillalite
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To be fair a lot of the little things that were an issue even with Sense 4.0 have been ironed out with Sense 4+. The problem is things like Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur etc... have so much baggage from the eclair/froyo/gingerbread days that it's hard to get past things.
It's also worth noting that's it not just benchmark placebos. I can tell a difference in the power when running certain games I own that I've tried. I can tell a difference in the smoothness of the animations and such during general usage which is to be expected because CM10 has to hack the kernel/driver features without a leaked JB based kernel onto the ICS kernel verses what HTC has done currently. Image Sense just is better than stock. Plus everything hardware wise works without and little quirks here and there.
This isn't to discredit CM. In some ways it has it's own pluses. Plus in general the ROM scene is always hampered when they try to move to a newer Android version but have to base all of the backend on the older Android version because that's all they have to work with. That's why when a device gets an official update it's a big deal not just because it gets the update as well as redon roms of that update, but devs working on things like AOKP and CM can pull from the newer low level info that's pushed in the update.
For example the current CM10 ROM for the Evita only has tripple buffering enabled. Vsync was still being hashed out. It's also why the current version of CM10 has roughly the same quadrant scores as sense because they have to pull from existing drivers.
So yeah when CM10.1 releases and the pull some of the backend stuff from the latest JB update and incorporate it into their own ROM the pendulum should swing backwards. That's why CM got so popular because of CM7. It was based on the latest firmware version most phones had gotten.
Blah blah blah it's late and I'm just rambling... sorry Android-GAF...
It's also worth noting that's it not just benchmark placebos. I can tell a difference in the power when running certain games I own that I've tried. I can tell a difference in the smoothness of the animations and such during general usage which is to be expected because CM10 has to hack the kernel/driver features without a leaked JB based kernel onto the ICS kernel verses what HTC has done currently. Image Sense just is better than stock. Plus everything hardware wise works without and little quirks here and there.
This isn't to discredit CM. In some ways it has it's own pluses. Plus in general the ROM scene is always hampered when they try to move to a newer Android version but have to base all of the backend on the older Android version because that's all they have to work with. That's why when a device gets an official update it's a big deal not just because it gets the update as well as redon roms of that update, but devs working on things like AOKP and CM can pull from the newer low level info that's pushed in the update.
For example the current CM10 ROM for the Evita only has tripple buffering enabled. Vsync was still being hashed out. It's also why the current version of CM10 has roughly the same quadrant scores as sense because they have to pull from existing drivers.
So yeah when CM10.1 releases and the pull some of the backend stuff from the latest JB update and incorporate it into their own ROM the pendulum should swing backwards. That's why CM got so popular because of CM7. It was based on the latest firmware version most phones had gotten.
Blah blah blah it's late and I'm just rambling... sorry Android-GAF...
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