Bolded makes sense given the roadmap of Qualcomm.
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Bolded makes sense given the roadmap of Qualcomm.
zomgbbqftw
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I haven't heard the first one, and I think ZL is on T-Mob, Z on AT&T, the SD-600 upgrade is likely going to be done under the radar as SD-600 is pin compatible with APQ8064 and is a direct replacement. It won't be advertised, and when they change the whitepapers, it will just be changing APQ8064+MDM9615 to APQ8064T, every single other feature will be listed as exactly the same. Honestly it's not even that big of an upgrade, probably 10-15% on the benchmarks because they will run it at 1.5GHz rather than 1.9GHz to minimise the difference.
Z and ZL have an SD slot, it would leave HTC as the odd man out.
-Pyromaniac-
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lol htc is fucked if true, at least the others have more meaningful differentiators like bigger battery/sd slots/etc...
Vanillalite
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Samsung has the edge because of their metric fuck ton of advertising. That will be what seals the deal.
So I'm guessing the GN3 will be packing the S800? Kinda of a boring year for SoCs. Everything is gonna get Qualcomm'd. Was really looking forward to the Exynos Octa, especially since it was gonna be coupled with a 544mp3. I dont have high hopes for the T4. Hopefully Apple brings something fun to the table.
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We still don't know for sure what Samsung will use but there aint nothing wrong with Qualcomm's shit. They're on point.
Vanillalite
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Apple always brings WINRAR to the table. I expect no less this time around especially on the GPU side. Also we still have Tegra well eventually since Nvidia fails at timely releases.
PS: As someone who has been branded an Ubuntu fanboy despite not evening using Ubuntu these days I gotta admit that long form tablet video had a lot of cool ideas that I wish Android had.
Not that hyped about the phone version. Just at a glance Android seems way better for phones than Ubuntu's mobile remix (disregarding the native code deal), but Ubuntu mobile might actually look like the best current Tablet interface I've seen.
This effective LTE radio monopoly is not good for consumers. You think Qualcomm will put any money in open source project, no.
zomgbbqftw
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Yup, absolutely fucked.
I also just got soft confirmation that ZL may ship in NA with SD-600 rather than APQ8064 and that the European ZL delay was partly based on getting enough SD-600 supply. The Z released early (it's out now in Europe) because Sony weren't willing to wait for SD-600 and the production difficulties I had previously heard about were actually to do with SD-600 procurement issues. TSMC are said to be at full capacity. Apparently Nexus 4 also suffers from this problem which is why it has so many stock problems, APQ8064 supply is very limited right now, Sony may or may not have stock issues given that demand is very, very high for the Z. I have heard that in Europe the Z has sold out it's first shipment on pre-orders alone and they/NTT sold just under 200k in Japan during the first week on sale.
If my source is right and Sony are moving to SD-600 by end Q2 for their current devices then I don't know what HTC can do, their 4MP camera gambit looks like it has failed and as always Samsung are going to bring the big advertising heat. AT&T look to have picked up the Z and T-Mob/Sprint are in talks over the ZL which will give Sony their widest US release ever, and they are said to be readying a huge marketing budget for the "Z-Series" phones in the US if they can get the carrier deals hammered out. Given that carriers will launch on their own schedule a SD-600 launch could be on the cards.
I will repeat that it is only soft confirmation, I am waiting for my friend to write back with further details and full confirmation.
-Pyromaniac-
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if that ends up happening that would be great for sony. People can stop whining about that.
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Still nothing at my N4 in Germany, but honestly I couldn't care much less 
I think I'll manage without long toggle presses for another while.
edit: and there it is
I think I'll manage without long toggle presses for another while.edit: and there it is
This. Ubuntu's phone offerings leaves me with an "eh..." feeling, but the tablet video was really cool. There were some really cool concepts in that video that android could benefit from in the tablet space. The blown up phone interface is tired.
I hated HTC before it was cool
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Deleted member 10571
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I just realized you can switch tabs on Chrome with swiping in from the bezel. Is there a nice video that explains and shows all these little things you completely overlook and don't know about if you're not up to date on current Android features?
The Faceless Master
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lazy devs.
Unknown Soldier
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I owned an AT&T 8525 (HTC Hermes). I've hated HTC since almost the dawn of smartphones. God that thing was awful. I only had it because I needed some medical references at the time which ran on PDAs running Windows Mobile.
-Pyromaniac-
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how did you overlook that? It's one of the main features. They show it to you when you first open chrome!
Surely common folk can't be bothered with such triviality.
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LG officially announces 2 smartphones, the F7 and the F5 or some shit I donno. Check it out:
The F5 is a low end phone, 1gb of ram, dual core, other budget shit.
The F7 looks middle end? Maybe mid-high?:
- Operating System: Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Dual-Core
- Display: 4.7-inch True HD IPS (312 ppi)
- Size: 131.7 x 68.2 x 9.6mm
- Memory: 8 GB / 2 GB RAM /microSD (up to 32GB)
- Camera: 8.0 MP AF / 1.3 MP
- Battery: 2,540mAh
AKA looks MEH but that's a good battery. The higher we go the better.
The F5 is a low end phone, 1gb of ram, dual core, other budget shit.
The F7 looks middle end? Maybe mid-high?:
- Operating System: Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2
- Processor: 1.5 GHz Dual-Core
- Display: 4.7-inch True HD IPS (312 ppi)
- Size: 131.7 x 68.2 x 9.6mm
- Memory: 8 GB / 2 GB RAM /microSD (up to 32GB)
- Camera: 8.0 MP AF / 1.3 MP
- Battery: 2,540mAh
AKA looks MEH but that's a good battery. The higher we go the better.
Unknown Soldier
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The LG Optimus Note series.
A lot of people are making really big phones now but none of them seem to understand what makes the Galaxy Note series special. Hint: it's the S-Pen stylus LG!
A lot of people are making really big phones now but none of them seem to understand what makes the Galaxy Note series special. Hint: it's the S-Pen stylus LG!
Unknown Soldier
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Considering 4.2.x has been a mess on the N4 which adds almost nothing besides a few things like notification shade toggles that the OEM Android skins have literally had for years, I doubt anybody cares outside of the stock Android diehards.
Besides the Bluetooth snafu the difference is fairly noticeable and experience is much improved.
vivftp
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This news makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
Heh, I wonder what this will mean for the ZL I eventually plan to purchase. Will the ones that launch in April have S4 Pro, or SD-600? If S4 Pro, I'd likely want to wait because the SD-600 models wouldn't be too far off. Then if I want for SD-600 models, then the next flagship or phablet won't be too far off... then if I want for that, I'm sure some other shiney object will catch my attention and that won't be too far off...
*sigh*
So hard to find that "right moment" to buy with Sony this year.
The Faceless Master
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seriously. these other guys keep making big phones, but no capacitive stylus.
doing.
it.
WRONG!
as i sit here on my Note 2 high horse, all i can do is laugh and think about how bad it would be to downgrade to stock Google. if i had a Nexus, it would be on CM for sure.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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I'm going to install CM on my gnex today, what's the best kernel to go with it?
Currently on franco 4.2.2. Thanks.
Currently on franco 4.2.2. Thanks.
Unknown Soldier
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I think most people still like Franco. I used to use Leankernel during my Gnex days but I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
Seriously. Stock Android is empty-shelves bare. After my year with the Gnex, I honestly don't believe that people were actually meant to use bone-stock Android as a daily driver. It has like no features at all. If you actually wanted stock Android to be useful you had to add a dozen apps just to replicate the basic function included in an OEM skin like TouchWiz. And even there you still won't have Multi-Window. CM helps a lot, the CM team has really added a lot of nice functionality while preserving the stock Android motif.
Oh, and I think Google and Facebook still aren't friends right now so you still can't get Facebook integration in stock Android. This used to drive me nuts on my Gnex. Fortunately Samsung doesn't give a fuck about whatever it is that Google and Facebook are fighting about and so TouchWiz features proper Facebook integration.
Seriously. Stock Android is empty-shelves bare. After my year with the Gnex, I honestly don't believe that people were actually meant to use bone-stock Android as a daily driver. It has like no features at all. If you actually wanted stock Android to be useful you had to add a dozen apps just to replicate the basic function included in an OEM skin like TouchWiz. And even there you still won't have Multi-Window. CM helps a lot, the CM team has really added a lot of nice functionality while preserving the stock Android motif.
Oh, and I think Google and Facebook still aren't friends right now so you still can't get Facebook integration in stock Android. This used to drive me nuts on my Gnex. Fortunately Samsung doesn't give a fuck about whatever it is that Google and Facebook are fighting about and so TouchWiz features proper Facebook integration.
BootlegSnackz
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anybody excited about MWC?
htc one already announced and samsung won't be showing the s4. is there anything else to be excited about? maybe some sony phones or carrier announcements possibly?
asus and some new tablets possibly? are there even tablets at MWC?
just wondering what we have to look forward to next week.
htc one already announced and samsung won't be showing the s4. is there anything else to be excited about? maybe some sony phones or carrier announcements possibly?
asus and some new tablets possibly? are there even tablets at MWC?
just wondering what we have to look forward to next week.
The Faceless Master
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LG and Kyocera will be there right?
BootlegSnackz
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they're not players, they just crush a lot.
Kiraly
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Only excited to see the Xperia SP and maybe phones with the new Atom SoC, which should be goddamn fast
I want to believe..... But I need to see the receipts man. Nvidia has gotten me accustomed to big companies talking a big game, then failing to deliver.
Vanillalite
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So I'm kind of worried about the S600 chipset. Maybe that's just me being crazy though or maybe I'm just applying the wrong paradigm to this.
the quote at the end basically got it. Their stop gap rehashes are keeping their name in the news until merrifield
zomgbbqftw
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Sony haven't sent out any press invitations for MWC, so they probably aren't showing anything new. The best we will get is Xperia Tablet Z on the show floor without a release date or price.
Vanillalite
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Wish we could skip MWC and just go straight to the Samsung Event. Then we could just skip in time to Google I/O. Those are really the two events everyone cares about!!
No. More Huawei and ZTE.
Kiraly
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Goddamn't.
So no chance on Sony unveiling a phablet?
zomgbbqftw
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Same. I can't even stand running AOSP anything on my Note 2 because it is missing so many S-Pen features. I bought the phone mainly for that thing, the size is just a secondary positive for me.
Unknown Soldier
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Clock for clock, x86 > ARM is not new news. The problem Intel has had was making x86 use less power so it could be in a mobile device. Curiously, the solution presented itself in a different way when ARM went down the road of making their architecture use more power to give it more IPC. ARM can't play on Intel's turf and win, which makes me wonder what they are doing. Either way, Intel still needs to prove they can get manufacturers on board with design wins before they can become a player in the mobile space.
brotkasten
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If you can't get them to buy your products, try to bribe them.
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