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-Pyromaniac-
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The problem with the One review, not to take anything away from it, is that it's comparing it to phones of last year, not this year, considering there isn't anything out but the Z. For instance he mentions the camera is definitively the best in android...
...for a few weeks until the S4 comes out. He also seems to REALLY like some of the sense features. To each their own I guess. Definitely a hot phone though, either way. Wish I could try it in person. Also at anand they REALLLLLY seem to love the highlight reel feature. I'm kind of surprised by that. I mean it's neat and everything but I look at it how I look at most bonus camera features, just gimmicks. But they consider it the killer app for the phone. Not saying they're wrong, he does mention 100 times in the review "this is subjective" "this is also subjective" etc... and it is.
...for a few weeks until the S4 comes out. He also seems to REALLY like some of the sense features. To each their own I guess. Definitely a hot phone though, either way. Wish I could try it in person. Also at anand they REALLLLLY seem to love the highlight reel feature. I'm kind of surprised by that. I mean it's neat and everything but I look at it how I look at most bonus camera features, just gimmicks. But they consider it the killer app for the phone. Not saying they're wrong, he does mention 100 times in the review "this is subjective" "this is also subjective" etc... and it is.
Why would you do that?
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I know this post was days ago, but I want to add I had this problem when I first got my Galaxy S III. I thought its big, beautiful screen was just too big. However, I got used to it in a couple days or so, and it's not a problem at all anymore. In fact, I can barely imagine how it was a problem.
-Pyromaniac-
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if I were to guess I'd say Xperia phones will get one first, then S4 then One.
Unknown Soldier
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Isn't HTC hostile to custom ROMs now or something? There was some controversy about them shutting down a Russian site which hosted a lot of ROMs awhile back. I don't know if I would count on there being anything resembling timely ROMs for the One.
Sony is very friendly with the ROM community, they even submit their devices and full source code to the CyanogenMod guys before the phones are even released these days.
Samsung doesn't give a rat's ass about the ROM community. They are notorious for releasing binary code blobs instead of source like they are supposed to, and usually what source is released is not even what is shipping in released devices. The "latest" source code for Galaxy S3 and Note II are based on an ICS build of Android, which the Note II never even shipped with! This is the main reason why custom ROM developers hate Samsung, it's not that they are friendly or hostile, they just give no fucks so here's a bunch of shit you don't care about, have fun. It's why CM is still pretty broken on S3, because the devs can't get anything resembling updated source and driver code so how can they develop anything?
Sony is very friendly with the ROM community, they even submit their devices and full source code to the CyanogenMod guys before the phones are even released these days.
Samsung doesn't give a rat's ass about the ROM community. They are notorious for releasing binary code blobs instead of source like they are supposed to, and usually what source is released is not even what is shipping in released devices. The "latest" source code for Galaxy S3 and Note II are based on an ICS build of Android, which the Note II never even shipped with! This is the main reason why custom ROM developers hate Samsung, it's not that they are friendly or hostile, they just give no fucks so here's a bunch of shit you don't care about, have fun. It's why CM is still pretty broken on S3, because the devs can't get anything resembling updated source and driver code so how can they develop anything?
zomgbbqftw
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ZL already has a working port of CM10.1 only the camera and FM radio are out of commission.
https://sites.google.com/site/projectfreexperia/known-bugs/supported-device/cm-10-1-fusion3
https://sites.google.com/site/projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-1
touchdown. the best.
Oh what, the $100 price is on contract?
Ofcourse.
I don't want to circlejerk, but aren't all the advertised prices in the US on contract?
Unknown Soldier
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Yes. In the US, carriers don't even want really want people to know you can buy a phone off contract. If it weren't for the FCC forcing them to, they wouldn't even list off-contract prices on the price tags in stores.
Damn you aint lying.... And their battery tests show it to be pretty good also.
Anandtech had some real nice things to say about Sense 5 too:
:O
Sqrt_minus_one
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They are crap cos they all look like shit. Yes they have nice / borderline useful features but IMO Sense 5 floors all of them on looks. Note I am talking about Sense 5 not Sense 4 which I will gladly agree looked awful, Sense 5 has been praised for been significantly lighter on performance.
The HTC One has the best hardware out there (talking full package, camera, mic, speakers) and yet it constantly gets shitted on around here and I am not quite sure why.
If you can change icons do you still consider a skin "look like shit"? Serious question
How easy is it to theme the icons in the settings app, the status bar icons, notification icons, the icons in the multitasking menu, the lockscreen icons etc? Serious question.
Battersea Power Station
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I do because of the Settings menu, some other system menus, and the notification shade.
Hey folks, I have a question about data upload/download. On my Note II, when I'm using 3g/H+, orange and green arrows next to 3g/H+ logo only show up when I'm actually doing something on the internet (browsing, checking email, etc.). On the other hand, when I'm using WiFi, those little orange/green arrows are lightened up all the time.
Why is that? I'm afraid that when the phone is in idle state and is still connected to Wifi, there may still be battery drainage because of that.
Why is that? I'm afraid that when the phone is in idle state and is still connected to Wifi, there may still be battery drainage because of that.
cuevas. PhD.
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For people on here?
Sqrt_minus_one
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You would have to be able to change system wide icons as well and the aesthetics of some things need a complete revamp for me toggles in the nitification pull down of touchwiz need looking at.
But lets not get off topic here my post is pretty much exclusively directed at the HTC / HTC One's bad rep in Android GAF. My point is IMO HTC has delivered far beyond what I thought was a version 1.0 revamp produt where the company has realised it's mistakes as is now attempting to correct them.
Sense 5 is a huge jump in the right direction
Ultrapixel camera
very good speakers
OIS Camera
Noise rejecting mic for video recording that does a very good job
sensitive mic for phone calls
Only criticisms I can level at the hard ware:
humidity and temperature sensors missing a la GS4, I hope we will see devs and users begin to use this
No temperature sensor under screen to improve typing a la Z10
Down clokcing of processor to 1.7Ghz
The phone does not deserve its bad rep.
There are 2 ways to theme icons, at the launcher level; or theme it idividually with Folder Organizer. You can assign multiple icon/pointers for an app but the painful part is putting the proper Folder Organizer pointers in the proper positions on the screen. It work across multiple launchers but for backup a "layout" you need Titanium.
As for notification icon themes nobody ask for it but MIUI has very good and frankly the only solution. Everything else the moment you flash a rom you are stuck with the same notification icons. MIUI is the only one that can change app switch screen icons when you app icons.
Lock screen is case by case, some OEM launchers let you change it some don't. But none of them has good pattern lock solution anyway so I don't use it.
Yeah, for people on here. There's widgetlocker and shit but that just covers the regular lockscreen not actual themeing. I looked into the root side and you'd have to get deoxy ROM and start manually replacing assests (unless you get a MUIU ROM and assuming that's available for your device). It's not exactly drag-n-drop for people on here either.
Dude majority of people dismissed HTC One in this forum because it has non removable battery and not expendable. Had HTC announced the China version of One with the SD card slot I would have come to defend the One.
Lets go over your list here:
> > > > > > Sense 5 is a huge jump in the right directi
Whatever, its not better or worse than other 2013 competitors. Plus 3rd party launchers.
> > > > > > Ultrapixel camera
This one is a gimmick, it still uses the same Bayer pattern for the sensor and it basically sacrifice day time resolution for night time/indoor IQ.
> > > > > > very good speakers
> > > > > > OIS Camera
> > > > > > Noise rejecting mic for video recording that does a very good job
sensitive mic for phone calls
I will give you these.
Is not bad rep, its just universal meh reaction across board in multiple forums. Also HTC went from the original design of the One X/S to this rip off iPhone design. more meh.
Sony clearly tried harder than HTC this year and deserve a 2nd place recommendation.
Oh just for snubbing the US market the SD card slot I personally think HTC deserve a fuck you.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
To be fair at least HTC made their base model 32 gigs. While Sammy gives you a micro sd slot they only shit their base model with 16 gigs of storage.
SirMossyBloke
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This part has got to be a joke, right?
zomgbbqftw
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Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
micro sd card on the gs4 is kinda pointless if touchwiz still emulates the internal space as the sd card storage.
I have a 32 gig micro sd card in my gs3 that doesn't hold anything but pics cause the os doesn't move apps to it.
SirMossyBloke
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That looks nothing like an iPhone, are you an Apple lawyer, rounded corners?
In fact, if you check out one of the pictures on the Anand review (lol I know you won't), they show the backs of the DNA, the One X and the One and they're basically identical to each other, so saying they went from the One X design to an iPhone design is way off.
zomgbbqftw
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HTC clearly putting that licence to work ASAP...
Its not a rip off it pays fucking homage to the iPhone. Who cares its a less interesting design than the One S/X.
SirMossyBloke
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Well...I think you're in the minority with that one, but each to their own.
The Faceless Master
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so they look like pictures taken with an HTC One in fair to great lighting?
if anything, it looks like the Galaxy Tab/Galaxy player redesign, which was explicitly made to *not* look like an Apple device.
-Pyromaniac-
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Sense 5 does seem like an improvement overall speed wise. It definitely doesn't seem like it's slowing things down any-more, at least in all the videos I've seen. But it's a step back in a bunch of ways too. HTC continues their trend of making things harder for absolutely no reason other than to be different. This droid life video shows a few examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k8ZeC5yuOKI
They should offer a lot more customizability options for sense 5 and it would be nearing on great. Instead they kind of chose to limit things (even physical things like buttons) and forced their weird design decisions upon the users. It's a shame, I genuinely think that phone is 2-3 things away from being as perfect as a non nexus phone could be.
They should offer a lot more customizability options for sense 5 and it would be nearing on great. Instead they kind of chose to limit things (even physical things like buttons) and forced their weird design decisions upon the users. It's a shame, I genuinely think that phone is 2-3 things away from being as perfect as a non nexus phone could be.
Thanks. Downloaded.
The Faceless Master
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that's one thing i gave them props for from the start. everyone needs to move to 322GB base for flagships.
kinda pointless to you. amazing for me. probably because i went for root my Note 2 asap.
cuevas. PhD.
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That's awful :|
Random rumor of the day, Google to buy Whatsapp for 1 Billion Dollars http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/google-acquiring-whatsapp/
-Pyromaniac-
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High Tech Computer Corporation
Moneyhats2k5
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Guy getting flamed in the comments. Lol
brotkasten
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I think that would upset me for some reason, but I couldn't say why.
People hate on touchwiz? Sense is just awful, what a clunky stupid pos.
I know why. Because Google would kill the Blackberry and Symbian app.
-Pyromaniac-
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Touchwiz looks worse but works better and Sense looks better (in most ways) but works worse. That's my comparison. Actually that's a pretty apt comparison for the devices they will represent in general. HTC One will be functionally inferior in most cases, but it will look better. And vice versa for the S4. Just about what you value more.
brotkasten
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Oh, right! I'd seriously think they'd kill the Windows Phone app.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/03/htc-one-802w-china-microsd/
Man wtf. Why does China get an HTC One with a Micro SD and whatnot? Damn, they really should have done that worldwide.
-Pyromaniac-
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just get one of those extended batteries, it will make your phone fatter but so will a mophie. I.E. http://androidcommunity.com/mugen-power-3900-mah-galaxy-nexus-extended-battery-review-20120411/
SirMossyBloke
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No LTE. I'd much rather have a faster phone if I already have 32 or 64gb.
Everyone hates touchwiz, because its the worst looking UI by a long shot out of all the android phones.
Btw if you think Sense is clunky, you haven't used Sense 5. It's the complete opposite of clunky.
Have you consider a 2nd battery?
This is the tell sign that show HTC only design phones for its carrier masters, not the consumers.
Yeah but this is far more convenient
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