yeah, the lock out is just so they don't have to support it
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yeah, the lock out is just so they don't have to support it
-Pyromaniac-
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if it's free it's legal
Lame 
I installed it but it doesn't really work or render properly. Figures. This is stupid, Wacom. Really fucking stupid.
EDIT: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.jeremieklemke.drawing
Maybe there's hope for me after all.
I installed it but it doesn't really work or render properly. Figures. This is stupid, Wacom. Really fucking stupid.
EDIT: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.jeremieklemke.drawing
Maybe there's hope for me after all.
The Faceless Master
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i dunno about legality, but morally ... it's a free app, just blocked on certain hardware.
edit: doh! those new pages sneak up on me sometimes.
Lame
I installed it but it doesn't really work or render properly. Figures. This is stupid, Wacom. Really fucking stupid.
EDIT: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.jeremieklemke.drawing
Maybe there's hope for me after all.
Damn comparing those shots to Paper made my eyes hurt
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paper-by-fiftythree/id506003812?mt=8
Using it was worse...
Kind of difficult while using a finger/capacitive stylus. I hear Artrage is good. Those screens aren't really meant for "painting" unless you like drawing super zoomed in with the overall view of your work obscured. That is unless, of course, you enjoy constantly zooming in and out all the time.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
So Apple is basically finally signing streaming agreements to get something like Pandora out there. Wonder where this leaves Google on that front as well as companies like Rdio and Spotify.
Google is setting up licensing agreements with music providers already.
Google Said Developing Subscription Music Service
Warner Music Inks Deal With Google for Music Subscription Services
It seems Google is also negotiating streaming rights for Youtube as well as for Android though.
The Faceless Master
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they have spies in each others companies no doubt.
i know you didn't just hide a major article like that in here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=538860
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm warming up to the one lately but crush the iphone? lol. I haven't even seen a commercial for it yet and it launches soon.
Battersea Power Station
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Can someone help me get the part number of the batter for the Verizon SGS III (i535)? It's possibly the same one as the one for the Galaxy Victory, but I want to make sure before ordering one.
For some reason, the entirety of Verizon is out of stock of GSIII batteries.
For some reason, the entirety of Verizon is out of stock of GSIII batteries.
cuevas. PhD.
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The best phone no one can buy.
The Faceless Master
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aren't all of the GS3 batteries the exact same?
edit: yep, looks like the Galaxy Victory uses the same battery
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm blown away no one posted this yet. Anyway, more x phone rumours (phonearena):
- release date pushed to august
- 4.7 1080p display with thin bezel
so basically the only new rumour is the delay. Which basically if true means google things it sucks. Who would even want one in august when the nexus 5 will come out 2 months later. So yeah.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-X-Phone-release-slips-to-August-or-later_id41794
- release date pushed to august
- 4.7 1080p display with thin bezel
so basically the only new rumour is the delay. Which basically if true means google things it sucks. Who would even want one in august when the nexus 5 will come out 2 months later. So yeah.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-X-Phone-release-slips-to-August-or-later_id41794
Battersea Power Station
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Are they? I think the VZW one is blue while the others are black, so I wasn't sure. And are they all 2100 mah? That would be useful.
Thanks! I'll see if this works.
The Faceless Master
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ok, looks like the Verizon battery is different, but the Galaxy Victory battery is the same as the Everyone-Except-Verizon battery
SirMossyBloke
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It is a shame their marketing sucks. At least word of mouth around my area is getting people asking about it in droves.
-Pyromaniac-
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which is why it's hard to take their word when they say things like "we'll market this time!" "we'll update fast this time". Hope it's true but...whoknowzz. They'll probably never get this much hype/universal praise again. They must use it.
Also I almost get to try one, word is saturday, werrrrd.
Probably. What a great line of work, though.
Faceless what the hell did you do!
They're now one step closer to figuring out that we have an Android |OT| and once they do it's all over man. All over.
They're now one step closer to figuring out that we have an Android |OT| and once they do it's all over man. All over.
Unknown Soldier
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We gotta keep Community threads on the down-low, see. Can't let the filthy unwashed masses know about our little hangout!
Vanillalite
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Happy Friday Android GAF... Yes it is 2 AM and I'm still up and out and about...
Happy Friday morning, 8am here and it's empty at the gym. Takin' my sweet time.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm always up at 2am. It's what cool kids do.
Unknown Soldier
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It's only 11:30 pm here, I'm not sure what the problem is guys!
-Pyromaniac-
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Yeah well we"ll you know what the future is like. X phones and google glasses everywhere!
Sleeplessnights
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Falcon Pro showing some real promise.
Inline article previews
Inline article previews
Full articles available offline (Dev says "You won't need a news reader anymore")
Individual user notifications
I don't know why anyone would want to use the official app anymore.
OriginalThinking
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Not that I'll be able to tell you much of anything interesting but I had a brief hands on with the Samsung Galaxy S4 yesterday. We had a Samsung rep visiting and apparently were lucky to see one as there's currently only 4 units in Scotland. It was running test software (definitely not final) as was evidenced by occasional stutters and lags in animations, something I'm sure will be fixed in the final software. Some thoughts...
Appearance
It really does look like a Galaxy S3. At a medium distance you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. The screen resolution is obviously great, but in the small amount of time I had with it there wasn't the obvious boost in pixel count from 720p to 1080p as you would have noticed going from the non HD to HD screens. It would probably excel for calligraphy or using magazines in Google Play however I didn't have time to test that. In terms of dimensions the rep also had an S3 side by side. The S4 seemed slightly taller (by millimetres) and width seemed pretty much the same. I know that the S4 is slimmer, but in the small time I had the phone it was difficult to register any practical difference.
Software
The Samsung rep showed of some of the features (I forget the exact names) such as looking away from the screen pausing video and then looking back un-pausing it. This worked really well. He also showed us the hover preview which in general seemed less natural and a lot more gimmicky, especially as you've got to hover for a good second or so to get the preview. It would seem faster and more natural for me just to select whatever it is i wanted to look at first and then back out if it wasn't what i needed. The air scrolling stuff worked pretty well and was probably the biggest "oooohhhh" moment of the phone. By that, I mean using your hand or fingers you can fling through pictures in the gallery without having to touch the screen. It takes a small amount of practice at first, but actually works at a reasonable distance. I was holding my fingers nearly a foot away from the screen and it still worked. For a brief moment I actually felt like a Jedi! This is probably the one feature that will sell to people really interested in technology, or just something to show off to your mates (I bet your phone can't do this!). I still contend that it's a bit gimmicky and is still more hit and miss than normal touch screen swiping but it is quite cool. They also showed off dual shot. In fact they were using it to put your own face on top of someone else's body. It's probably a fun thing to do (kind of like the freaky warped face thing that used to be in the stock Android camera) but again has limited real wold usage except for capturing two girls one cup reactions. Touchwiz was very much Touchwiz. Nice in some places, terrible in others.
Final thoughts
Overall I thought the phone was nice and the features are pretty cool and even if they don't get used much, they will create enough of a "wow" moment to convince some customers to buy on that alone. On the other hand I didn't feel any pangs of regret with regards to my purchase of a Nexus 4 , or feel that I should sell it and get an S4. For customers coming off 2 year contracts upgrading from the S2 or HTC Sensation/Incredible iPhone 4 etc this will knock their socks off. For customers who have just picked up an S3, Nexus 4, or HTC One there isn't anything tangible that would make you regret your purchase.
I probably won't be able to answer any detailed questions, but feel free to ask me stuff anyway.
Appearance
It really does look like a Galaxy S3. At a medium distance you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. The screen resolution is obviously great, but in the small amount of time I had with it there wasn't the obvious boost in pixel count from 720p to 1080p as you would have noticed going from the non HD to HD screens. It would probably excel for calligraphy or using magazines in Google Play however I didn't have time to test that. In terms of dimensions the rep also had an S3 side by side. The S4 seemed slightly taller (by millimetres) and width seemed pretty much the same. I know that the S4 is slimmer, but in the small time I had the phone it was difficult to register any practical difference.
Software
The Samsung rep showed of some of the features (I forget the exact names) such as looking away from the screen pausing video and then looking back un-pausing it. This worked really well. He also showed us the hover preview which in general seemed less natural and a lot more gimmicky, especially as you've got to hover for a good second or so to get the preview. It would seem faster and more natural for me just to select whatever it is i wanted to look at first and then back out if it wasn't what i needed. The air scrolling stuff worked pretty well and was probably the biggest "oooohhhh" moment of the phone. By that, I mean using your hand or fingers you can fling through pictures in the gallery without having to touch the screen. It takes a small amount of practice at first, but actually works at a reasonable distance. I was holding my fingers nearly a foot away from the screen and it still worked. For a brief moment I actually felt like a Jedi! This is probably the one feature that will sell to people really interested in technology, or just something to show off to your mates (I bet your phone can't do this!). I still contend that it's a bit gimmicky and is still more hit and miss than normal touch screen swiping but it is quite cool. They also showed off dual shot. In fact they were using it to put your own face on top of someone else's body. It's probably a fun thing to do (kind of like the freaky warped face thing that used to be in the stock Android camera) but again has limited real wold usage except for capturing two girls one cup reactions. Touchwiz was very much Touchwiz. Nice in some places, terrible in others.
Final thoughts
Overall I thought the phone was nice and the features are pretty cool and even if they don't get used much, they will create enough of a "wow" moment to convince some customers to buy on that alone. On the other hand I didn't feel any pangs of regret with regards to my purchase of a Nexus 4 , or feel that I should sell it and get an S4. For customers coming off 2 year contracts upgrading from the S2 or HTC Sensation/Incredible iPhone 4 etc this will knock their socks off. For customers who have just picked up an S3, Nexus 4, or HTC One there isn't anything tangible that would make you regret your purchase.
I probably won't be able to answer any detailed questions, but feel free to ask me stuff anyway.
Nice writeup! Did you get any chance to see the different display modes any? Or was there just any sort of difference in the calibration compared to the S3 they had brought with them?
multiple account support
OriginalThinking
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No, just the default. I only had about 5 minutes with the phone, so nothing like enough time to properly play with it or give you any definitive conclusion. It's more of a "first impressions" post. It's useful in the sense that most customers will spend 5 minutes or less with any given phone before purchasing (I'm talking hands on) to see what I should be showing them If I need to sell over and above the brand name and Samsung marketing. I can't say I ever really had a problem with the S3 or Amoleds habit of over saturating colours, they actually made the screen pop in a way that LCD's couldn't compete with up until more recently. Colour accuracy has always been more important to me on a TV where I want to consume media as the director intended as I don't watch much video on my phone over and above YouTube or news stories. My only issue with the S3 screen was that it can suffer from significant burn in, more so than other Amoleds we've had in the past. The rolling demo that plays on the S3 has left an imprint on the screen which is always there. I know this is an issue with Amoleds in general but I've never seen it as pronounced. Either way a rolling demo is not a fair indicator of a customers screen using habits. Whether the S4 will also suffer from potential burn in, I can't say.
Sleeplessnights
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Hopefully with all those new features twitter will not consider falcon different to their Android app, enough to give them more than 50k users. Thus leading to multiple accounts support.
Nicktendo86
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Great writeup mate. Not sure about the not final software thing, they have been saying that as an excuse for the stutter and I have a feeling it is just touchwhiz.
Battersea Power Station
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Install the Google Music client on your computer with iTunes. It has an option to sync it.
Google Music isn't available in Canada. Will the client still work fine despite the service itself not working?
I'll believe it when I see it. Apart from the screen I wasn't really impressed by the S3 compared to my S2, and the concensus seems to be that the S4 isn't significantly better than that, especially regarding the smoothness of interaction.
I enjoyed reading your thoughts though, so thanks.
Battersea Power Station
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Oh, probably not. I've heard of DoubleTwist and TuneSync. I don't know which one is better.
Use some US proxy.
Register for Google Music.
Activate
Stop using US proxy.
Service gets activated forever and you're done.
OriginalThinking
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Thanks! Very possibly, but even things like when the screen would rotate in the gallery were a bit stuttery, something which I'm fairly sure is just because it's not optimized yet. At the very least aspects weren't as smooth as the Nexus 4, despite the more powerful chipset inside and I did ask the Samsung rep and he specifically said it was still running test software. Even in comparison to the S3 it suffered. Another thing to mention was that it didn't feel any noticeably quicker than the S3 when moving between things. I remember going from a Nexus S and being blown away by how fast the Galaxy Nexus was. And then again being impressed by the step up from the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 4. In my brief time with the S4 I didn't come away with the feeling it was blazing fast compared to other current flagships, but again that comes with the caveat of having limited time and the test software.
Of course, no problem. I think the speed, and screen alone should impress you compared to the S2 especially when the software is final. But it's subjective for everyone. I remember going from my Galaxy Nexus (pentile) and thinking the pentile stuff was exaggerated nonsense. Then I saw the Nexus 4 and the screen was miles better despite being the same resolution. The S4 has a pentile screen too, but using a slightly different system and at such a higher resolution than the S2 the jump should be massive.
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