Junior Mint
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How does it take this long to release a mediocre phone? Unless they're selling it for $200, they might as well scrap it and start over.
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-Pyromaniac-
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Those "features" better be spectacular if the specs really are that average. Or at least have a massive battery in there. Or be cheap as FUCK. I'm talking $199.
Even still the Nexus 5 will be out 2 months later. It will be interesting to see the direction they both go. MOREEEEBATTTERYYY is what I care about most.
Even still the Nexus 5 will be out 2 months later. It will be interesting to see the direction they both go. MOREEEEBATTTERYYY is what I care about most.
It's weird because the S4 Pro is quad core while the regular S4 is dual core so are they really just using an S4?
i can look past a 1080 vs 720 screen as long as the 720 screen is high quality and not motorola's usual garbage. A massive battery and killer battery life would be awesome, but i dont know what to think about other features helping me ignore an s4 pro in a phone that I doubt will be priced at what I want to pay for it
-Pyromaniac-
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If this phone creeps to $299 it's probably worthless. If it gets down to $199 and features a hefty battery. Then we might be looking at something desirable. I have a feeling they'll miss the mark.
They seem to think the phone will spark some sort of smartphone revolution and change the way people look at them and whatnot so we'll see if it's all talk very soon I guess. Huge floppage potential though. Huge.
They seem to think the phone will spark some sort of smartphone revolution and change the way people look at them and whatnot so we'll see if it's all talk very soon I guess. Huge floppage potential though. Huge.
MSM8960T is an S4 Pro dual core. If they aren't going to launch as an off contract phone, they better be a free phone on contract with incentives
Sqrt_minus_one
Member
Unless there is massive ball droppage I would expect this phone to be priced below the Nexus 4 and available as globally as they can get. As you point out if there is a large battery and a decent size screen might actually be quite a hit the processor is not top end but its no slouch. Afterall HTC, Sony and Samsung have got the high end covered might as well go after the lower tier market to ensure no one else can sneak in.
Nicktendo86
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So, which have tested the 7 most popular smartphones and, shock horror, the iPhone 5 was found to be the slowest. This really shows how great value the n4 is
http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/apple/samsung-galaxy-s4-iphone-5-uk-fastest-phone/
http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/apple/samsung-galaxy-s4-iphone-5-uk-fastest-phone/
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Meh. The iPhone 5 certainly doesn't feel slow. Benchmarks are meaningless, IMO.
-Pyromaniac-
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bench marks are so fucking stupid though lol. My mom has an iphone 5 and it's not slow...like at all. It's a super optimized OS. Everything zips from not only the fluidity of everything but also moving to different apps and opening stuff up and whatnot.
Benchmarks were always stupid.
EDIT: BBOY BEAT MEEEEWUttt
Nicktendo86
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I know that and you know that but the people who read which are not usually very tech savvy.
My old iPhone 5 was way smoother than any Android phone I've ever used including my current HTC One. These benchmarks are pointless
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Xperia Ion updated to 4.1.2, owners can grab it from the update service.
Xperia 2012/13 devices + version number:
S - 4.1.2*
Ion - 4.1.2*
P 4.1.2*
Go - 4.1.2*
U - 4.0.4*
Sola 4.0.4*
Tipo/Dual - 4.0.4*
Miro 4.0.4*
T/TL - 4.1.2
TX - 4.1.2
V - 4.1.2
Tablet S - 4.1.2*
Z - 4.2.2
ZL - 4.2.2
Tablet Z 4.1.2
SP - 4.1.2
L - 4.1.2
M - 4.1.2
M Dual - 4.2.2
Z Ultra 4.2.2
ZR - 4.1.2
Starred phones are no longer in Sony's update programme they will no longer be updated to new versions of Android, only bugfixes. The rest will continue to be updated to the latest versions of Android. I've heard the MSM8960 phones (T/TL/TX/V/SP) will skip 4.2.2 and jump straight to 4.3 but who really knows.
It does now mean that the early 2012 devices are finally off the roster for SMC and hopefully now that every Sony phone is running on Krait architecture it will help them streamline their update process. Going from three different architectures (Scorpion, A9, Krait) to support in Jan to just one (Krait) should be very helpful. Hopefully it means much faster updates from now on. I really hope so at least. I was pleasantly surprised at the speed at which my ZL was updated, and I really hope it gets 4.3 quickly.
Xperia 2012/13 devices + version number:
S - 4.1.2*
Ion - 4.1.2*
P 4.1.2*
Go - 4.1.2*
U - 4.0.4*
Sola 4.0.4*
Tipo/Dual - 4.0.4*
Miro 4.0.4*
T/TL - 4.1.2
TX - 4.1.2
V - 4.1.2
Tablet S - 4.1.2*
Z - 4.2.2
ZL - 4.2.2
Tablet Z 4.1.2
SP - 4.1.2
L - 4.1.2
M - 4.1.2
M Dual - 4.2.2
Z Ultra 4.2.2
ZR - 4.1.2
Starred phones are no longer in Sony's update programme they will no longer be updated to new versions of Android, only bugfixes. The rest will continue to be updated to the latest versions of Android. I've heard the MSM8960 phones (T/TL/TX/V/SP) will skip 4.2.2 and jump straight to 4.3 but who really knows.
It does now mean that the early 2012 devices are finally off the roster for SMC and hopefully now that every Sony phone is running on Krait architecture it will help them streamline their update process. Going from three different architectures (Scorpion, A9, Krait) to support in Jan to just one (Krait) should be very helpful. Hopefully it means much faster updates from now on. I really hope so at least. I was pleasantly surprised at the speed at which my ZL was updated, and I really hope it gets 4.3 quickly.
Junior Mint
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So do we see 4.3 tomorrow?
I wouldn't hold my breath
Galaxy S4 Nexus edition.
SirMossyBloke
Member
What? I use an HTC One and iPhone 5 on an almost daily basis and the 5 certainly isn't smooth all the time. Yet my HTC One is.
To each their own I guess. I still notice the stutter lag on my One but nowhere near as bad as it used to be on my Incredible/S2/Nexus/S3/gf's Note 2, etc. It's not a dealbreaker by any means by its definitely there.
Old iPhones eventually start lagging (my 3G/4) but during its peak it usually almost never does. My iPad 3 is laggy as shit when in the App Store and certain apps. My 5 was silky smooth till the day I got rid of it for the One.
Oh.
I'm getting bored of my Galaxy Nexus. Can't believe that it's about 5 more months till we get a new proper Nexus.
oh, thats right, there is another google edition phone releasing tomorrow besides the superior One
Junior Mint
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zomg also posted a while back that his sources said 4.3 would be revealed tomorrow, didn't he?
brotkasten
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What's so cool about 4.3? What else could they take and make it really ugly? The wallpapers?
Like I said, Samsung saturates the market and then some, but I like the approach - it gives consumers more choice to find the exact device they desire.
zomgbbqftw
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And yet they don't have an actual like for like iPhone competitor, a high power phone in a small package. Doh.
They can't best Apple at the ugly update part.
I'm kidding
The only thing I'm waiting for on 4.3 is the better bluetooth support.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Yup. Google need to fix the Wifi and Bluetooth services on Android. They completely broke them in 4.1 and didn't fix them for 4.2, hopefully they fix it for 4.3 now.
Folks seem to square the iPhone to the Galaxy S * anyway. so they probably don't see a need to develop one. (which is strange, I know)
zomgbbqftw
Banned
They should because 20% of iPhone buyers come from Android after not being able to find a small but powerful phone. It's a massive gap in the Android market right now and only HTC will have a product out in October that fills it and Sony in the first quarter of 2014.
Commander Jameson
Member
Which HTC product is this please? Is it the rumoured smaller version of the One? I'd be all over that if there was a stock Android version.
The N7.2 launch event tomorrow in SF. There will be balloons.
I'm assuming he means the new desire
zomgbbqftw
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One Mini (M4) 4.3" HD, S600 1.9GHz, 2GB RAM, 32GB storage.
Commander Jameson
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Lovely. Thanks. I just need my old Desire to hold on until then.
Isn't it generally recommended to always wipe when flashing a new rom? Only times I didn't wipe was when I went from nightly to nightly.
-Pyromaniac-
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It's probably the best skin by quite a margin. Relatively simple and zooms. The weird decisions that there are 1 or 2 of don't really bother much. I've tried to use nova/apex but it just aint the same.
i installed the RC last week. really don't want to reinstall everything again if i don't have to. I just wasn't sure if RC and stable were the same 'track' or a different fork altogether.
Honestly, if Sense5 offered an option to customize icons, grid sizes, etc like other launchers, i'd probably never use another launcher again.
The Faceless Master
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isn't their GS4 Mini similar in specs to the iPhone 5?
zomgbbqftw
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No way. S400 is nowhere near as strong as A6. It's also super ugly and nowhere near as stylish as the iPhone 5.
So in other words, pretty damn good. I can see why, I enjoy looking at UI screenshots out of it, looks pretty slick.
Personally I'd say they're on the same track but I dunno. Don't think anything super bad would happen if you were to skip wiping however.
Also, I'm having issues restoring backups through Helium through its PC server. I do all the steps and get the restore complete message, but nothing actually happens. What am I doing wrong?
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