Oh you are right I confused this with the Amazon price matching thread. Amazon price matched it from 3pm and it was sold out a couple hours later.
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Oh you are right I confused this with the Amazon price matching thread. Amazon price matched it from 3pm and it was sold out a couple hours later.
Eh, the One V looks fine for me as a cheap beginners phone. I'd personally say the Evo V is worth the extra $100 because I love having 4G speeds on my phone but that depends on whether or not your area has coverage.
Like Faceless Master said, there's not a lot of other options on Virgin, unless you're okay with the considerably high prices of the S2 and the 4S.
Like Faceless Master said, there's not a lot of other options on Virgin, unless you're okay with the considerably high prices of the S2 and the 4S.
-Pyromaniac-
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Oh for 50 bucks it isn't bad. I did miss that part. I don't like the phone overall, but for 50 bucks, who cares lol. I'm sure you'll get your moneys worth.
I wouldn't get it at 150 though.
I wouldn't get it at 150 though.
Vanillalite
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Problem is I just don't want him to be frustrated with the experience they might get irregardless of the price. Not everyone needs the latest and greatest, but I do think there is a minimum experience bar that needs to be met.
It's only $50 though so what the hell. It's not a bad phone. It's just spec wise more equivalent to a GS1, and people here are speculating on the GS4 already....
It's only $50 though so what the hell. It's not a bad phone. It's just spec wise more equivalent to a GS1, and people here are speculating on the GS4 already....
Wuthering_Heights
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Well, I'm probably not really the type to be upgrading phones a lot, so from what you guys are saying, it's probably a better idea to wait, spend a little more, and grab something a little better.
-Pyromaniac-
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yes, especially if you don't plan to upgrade for a long time.
The Faceless Master
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guys... say he waits a year... that $200 phone that's $50 on Cyber Monday will be a dual core GS2/EVO3D level device and we'll be talking about how that is low end and how quad core A15 bigLITTLE architecture is awesome and how 768MB or 1GB of RAM is not enough to run Key Lime Pie properly.
Do you not get phones for free in the US? Atleat here in the UK you can find plenty of contract deals where the phone is free, might have to payer a higher monthly contract for the newer phones if you want them free, but I'm pretty damn sure the GS2 you'll get decent contract deals with the phone being free.
Vanillalite
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I disagree. There is a line that needs to be crossed with certain hardware to be used to do basic tasks.
For example that line was crossed for desktops once we hit the dual core era for most people or once most desktop users got 2 gigs of RAM.
In iPhone land this happened with the iPhone 4 for basic tasks. In Android land I'd say this happened with the GS2 era of phones.
The Faceless Master
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yeah, what i'm saying is the line moves and next year the line will be pushed up a gen.
he's talking off contract... how much is an HTC One V in the UK with no contract? it's $50 USD for the next 15 minutes... or maybe 3:15.. dunno when they change prices...
Vanillalite
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The line doesn't move though. The same tasks are going to be done. The line isn't moving for PCs. Any laptop with a c2d era cpu and 2 gigs of ram is going to be perfectly fine for the average dumb users tasks.
I'd say the same thing for mobile. Basic core tasks won't really change next year if you're just listening to music, checking fb, browsing the web, and grabbing e-mail from time to time beyond calling/texting. That line isn't going to move. I just feel you need GS2 level hardware Android wise verses GS1 level hardware. Just like I feel in iPhone land they've reached it with the iPhone 4. Sure the 3GS should in theory be cheaper, but I wouldn't believe it's core competency is up to the base level for everyday tasks.
The Faceless Master
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but all that stuff you talked about works just as well on GS1 level hardware. the line is really at a level below that, the previous gen subGhz old ARMv6 that couldn't run Flash or play Temple Run...
Mr. Enigma
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Question. I'm about to root my Droid 3. However, I left the charger cable that came with the phone in my office at work. I do have another USB cord, but it's an old cable and acting weird. When I plug it up to the computer, the computer doesn't recognize it. All the phone will do is charge. It doesn't give me the option to mount it. Is it safe to use the cable or should I just play it safe and use the official cable?
I kind of agree with you. Now with my One X i hit i level i can stay longer without the need to upgrade.
Yes i'm a gadget/tech geek who always likes new shiny stuff but i just wanted a responsive and fast phone. Not for games but for everything else. My Desire HD was close to it but slowdowns, waiting time while starting apps/multitastking etc. all annoyed me.
Now it's smooth overall and i'm satisfied.
The next octa-core phone won't make a big improvement over "high-end" phones out now for the core tasks. Hooray when you can play Crysis on your phone in 3 years but gaming ist still PC/console for me and not the casual Ski Safari run while shitting.
Kill Your Masters
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4.2.1 is on its way, fix for Bluetooth and missing december.
Also hopefully for the battery drain so I can enable google now again...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu....2.1-update-Google-fixes-December-bug_id37051
Also hopefully for the battery drain so I can enable google now again...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu....2.1-update-Google-fixes-December-bug_id37051
Vanillalite
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I'd play it safe and just wait it out. One day won't kill you.
OriginalThinking
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What's this battery drain thing? I get better battery on 4.2 on my Galaxy Nexus. Nexus 7 I see no obvious difference.
TouchMyBox
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I'm getting crap battery, but I think that's mostly just not running dat franco kernel.
OriginalThinking
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Are you running stock or custom? I'm presuming stock, cos it would be fairly ridiculous to blame Google for battery issues on a custom rom.
TouchMyBox
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Stock as a whistle.
OriginalThinking
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Sweet. Now to see whether I have the patience to wait for the OTA update or to force it.
Kill Your Masters
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Google services drains my battery while the screen is locked. When I turn off location services then I get 4.1.2 battery levels on both N7 and Gnex (but with Location services turned on on 4.1.2). There is an open issue at code.google.com for this.
OriginalThinking
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4-5 days? Do you actually ever have it off standby? I use mines so heavily that I need to charge it everyday. Home > phone away, Nexus 7 out. I do almost all my browsing/reading on my tablet now. Laptop is a rooting/storage device.
PwnCakes193
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I've been running LeanKernel on my N7 and my battery life has been amazing. Just be sure to set the I/O scheduler to Deadline over SIO
I use it 1-2 hours nightly, that would explain it
Vanillalite
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So in an interesting app release front... something I didn't even know was being made...
ABP Google Play Store Link!
ABP Google Play Store Link!
BootlegSnackz
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can't wait to use my surface pro to unlock bootloaders, install recoveries, obtain root access....
i'm telling you those are the true laptop replacements...may be the death knell for androids tabs and ipads...
but until then, bring on my Nexus 10.
OriginalThinking
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Ha, well it's nice if you've got a touch screen laptop. I've got windows 8 on mine, but without a touch screen it's not much different to windows 7 in desktop mode and metro is not suited to mouse and keyboard unless you memorise the quick commands. I also still hold that tablets of 10" and above are too big. 7" is the sweet spot.
Vanillalite
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Finally! Then again I'll believe it when I see it much like the "hey we are going to unify messaging no really we are we've been talking about it for a while now!"
Good news none the less.
BootlegSnackz
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7 inches is too small
/thatswhatshesaid
but seriously it's too small for a tablet. my nexus 7 is almost the size of my phone. i use it sparingly. 16gb is partly to blame or i would game on it more.
oh wait it's not 16gb it's basically barely 9gb after factory reset.
Vanillalite
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Pictures of the internal get on Android Facebook Campaign
Getting support for the latest web standards at the same rate as the desktop browser doesn't seem that exciting to me when the performance lags behind other modern mobile browsers.
Mr. Enigma
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Yep, that's what I decided to do. I was in no rush anyways.
OriginalThinking
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Each to their own. I've owned an iPad, Xoom and still have a Transformer Prime and I find they are too big to hold comfortably for long periods of time, something I find essential if I'm web browsing, gaming or reading. The storage options thing is a problem, though for me 16gb is enough cos my music is in the cloud and I tend to stream video so It doesn't have to be stored locally. I'm not suggesting a tablet is a flat out replacement for a PC/Laptop, but it does replace many of the day to day functions I'd normally have required it for.
TedBundysNips
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Upgrading to 4.2 on my Nexus right now (uk)
BootlegSnackz
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in other news...google play store servers shit themselves approximately a half second after sales resume.
hundreds of reports of phones not staying in checkout carts.
get your act together googy
hundreds of reports of phones not staying in checkout carts.
get your act together googy
uuuugh I hate 4.2. it's basically the io6 of android. I just realized that the quick settings aren't actually toggles but links to the respective settings page. The lock screen is a mess, getting to camera and Google now is less intuitive. Yesterday I took a couple of pics and then when I went to the gallery it kept switching to the camera.
Man I'm disappointed
Man I'm disappointed
Yeah the lockscreen actually disgusts me now. I hate when I press the power button and see those two edges of the boxes on the side of the screen showing me that I can swipe left or right.
On top of that:
-You can actually swipe your finger in any direction in the circle to unlock your phone, yet there is still an unlock icon to the right.
-the delay when you press the power button to turn on/off the screen is so bad.
-You can swipe down on the clock widget to "extend" it (even though nothing physically changes with the widget), and then you have to press a lock icon to actually be able to unlock the phone again. Pointless beyond belief.
-I hate having to swipe to get to full page widgets. Allow me to have smaller widgets on the main lock screen to know if I have emails or something at a glance. Even then, that's what the notification bar is for...
I hope they either revert the lock screen back to how it was, or seriously revamp it.
On top of that:
-You can actually swipe your finger in any direction in the circle to unlock your phone, yet there is still an unlock icon to the right.
-the delay when you press the power button to turn on/off the screen is so bad.
-You can swipe down on the clock widget to "extend" it (even though nothing physically changes with the widget), and then you have to press a lock icon to actually be able to unlock the phone again. Pointless beyond belief.
-I hate having to swipe to get to full page widgets. Allow me to have smaller widgets on the main lock screen to know if I have emails or something at a glance. Even then, that's what the notification bar is for...
I hope they either revert the lock screen back to how it was, or seriously revamp it.
Vanillalite
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Getting to the same version has the current desktop would be more than just web standards though. Plus I assume the hope would be to bump up the speed and smoothness as well.
At the very least it shows Google isn't being crazy and just letting Chrome for Android be left out in the cold.
Of course they aren't ever going to add flash support back in so if you are a person that uses an alternative browser that supports flash no matter what Google doesn they won't bring you back into the fold.
Completely agree. The entire idea of widgets on the lockscreen feels superfluous and even then it's implemented horribly. I've been using Android since 2.1 and the whole swipe down to reveal the full widget thing threw me off completely. I have no idea how the average consumer is supposed to discover that.
All of that said, this is the first misstep Google has made with Android in a long time (at least since 4.0), and I don't doubt they'll fix it with the next update.
Mercury Fred
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Woo hoo, I just scored a Nexus 4!
I haven't activated it yet, though. I want to make sure I get everything off of my Nexus One (kinda hate saying goodbye to the little trooper) before I do so. Do people have any good recommendations for ways to back up text and pictures messages? Also, any easy way to transfer other contents of the phone & SD card to the new device?
I haven't activated it yet, though. I want to make sure I get everything off of my Nexus One (kinda hate saying goodbye to the little trooper) before I do so. Do people have any good recommendations for ways to back up text and pictures messages? Also, any easy way to transfer other contents of the phone & SD card to the new device?
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Mercury Fred
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Thanks! Hmm, do you know if there's a way to do cloud back up with it? I looked through the notes and couldn't find anything...
I used My Backup Pro (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro&hl=en) when I was backing up my sms/mms to flash my N4.
It stores the data in the cloud and gives you a pin (and you can set your password) to retrieve them.
The only issue with this is that after restoring, on the main Messaging window, it shows all your texts as the time the restored happened, but if you click into the individual sms, the time/date are correct.
So I don't know if that'll bother you or not.
PwnCakes193
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SMS Backup & REstore is my go to. Its the only one that brings back the correct time as well
criesofthepast
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How does the android automatic backup work? Is it like iCloud where I can perform a backup whenever I want? What exactly does it backup and where is it? I just see it as kind of there but have no idea if its working or not and what its doing.
Mercury Fred
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Does Backup and Restore have a cloud save option since I'm going from one device to another?
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