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[tr4656]

Reading all these posts is both very enlightening as well as very, very depressing. I just feel so bad for them, even though I know I shouldn't.

I feel depressed too, especially considering their current phones are pretty good.

who is serious about stepping into (or up) the phone market that they would want HTC? Do they hold anything of value?

Yes, they have at least some market share in the US and Europe, and still make some well designed products (HTC One).

Lenovo should be seen as the prime mover. They don't have a big name in phones outside of China and HTC are still a big brand in Europe and the US. They will do what they did with ThinkPad. Slowly phase in their own name and branding over a few years until people are used to the Lenovo name.

They hold a few patents, but their brand is probably the most important asset they have.

The other player could be Sony because they would then be able to leverage HTC's already arranged carrier deals within the US. Though I think it would be too expensive for them and getting deals done with AT&T and Softbank USA shouldn't be very difficult with HTC circling the drain.

If Lenovo really does buy HTC and do what they do with Thinkpad, its going to turn into real low quality shit after 2 years.

 

[gcubed]

while the htc one is definitely pretty, and i really really like the front speakers... its just a terrible product to hold (IMO). I was more sold on it BEFORE i owned it instead of after I did.

 

[Husker86]

unlocked phones on AT&T just means you pay full price for a phone and still pay that subsidy-included price on top.

Not true. They offer a $15/month discount if you are not under contract now.

 

[tr4656]

while the htc one is definitely pretty, and i really really like the front speakers... its just a terrible product to hold (IMO). I was more sold on it BEFORE i owned it instead of after I did.

Really? I live with someone who has one and it feels fine to hold. Its a bit more rounded that what I'm used to but its not a real big problem.

 

[tino]

In our latest episode of, "just how fucked are HTC" we look at their quarterly results.
.....
2010: 33,087
2011: 26,363
2012: 21,569
2013: 12,433

Massive collapse.

This is a punishment from god: release phones with replaceable battery and SD slot, revenue good; release phone with no replaceable battery and SD slot, revenue bad!!! Mwahahaha

 

[gcubed]

At this point the only advantage tmobile has over att prepaid is advertising. AIO is cheaper, with infinitely better coverage and infinitely more LTE.

Tmobile needs to hurry up and expand their network because they don't really offer anything compelling anymore

 

[BoboBrazil]

This is a punishment from god: release phones with replaceable battery and SD slot, revenue good; release phone with no replaceable battery and SD slot, revenue bad!!! Mwahahaha

Their downfall began when they lost the rooting community with all their locked bootloader shit back in the day. That's a large reason people moved to Samsung.

 

[this_guy]

At this point the only advantage tmobile has over att prepaid is advertising. AIO is cheaper, with infinitely better coverage and infinitely more LTE.

Tmobile needs to hurry up and expand their network because they don't really offer anything compelling anymore

The only thing compelling T-Mobile has is their $30/month 5gb plan. If you talk on your phone and need minutes you can get the same T-Mobile network through MetroPCS for $10/month cheaper (it's actually more like $15-20/month savings because taxes are INCLUDED with MetroPCS). If T-Mobile's coverage doesn't work then AT&T's GoPhone or AIO Wireless are great alternatives (and both of their monthly plans also INCLUDE taxes). I'm using GoPhone at the moment on the $60/month plan, but it's easy to find discounted refills online of 10% or more. Then there's all the other mvnos like Straight Talk, but I'd rather not deal with their customer service.

 

[tr4656]

Their downfall began when they lost the rooting community with all their locked bootloader shit back in the day. That's a large reason people moved to Samsung.

Or Nexus for that matter.

 

[Noema]

I'm a long time iPhone user, but my 3.5 year old iPhone 4, besides feeling really slow, is literally falling apart. I'm looking at the Moto G since it seems to be pretty good for the price and it's pretty much the only off contract phone I can afford right now that's not a piece of garbage (Nexus 5 would be better but it's not available in my country).

Could you guys recommend me some replacement apps? Preferably free:

Podcasts: On iOS I use the Apple app, which isn't very good.

Remote Desktop: I use LogMeIn Ignition on iOS. I know there's an Android version, but I don't want to have to buy it again (it's like $30). On iOS there's a free version of LogMein, but I can't find it in the Play Store. What's a good, free Remote Desktop App?

YouTube: On iOS, there's an app called MxTube, which allows me to easily download videos for later viewing. It's really handy since I spend several hours a day on the bus / subway, and saves me from having to burn my limited mobile data. Is there something similar for Android? There's an app called MxTube in the Play Store, but that one just streams audio.

I also need a Scientific Calculator with Graphing capabilities. Any recommendations?

Also, what's your PDF reader of choice?

And finally, how well does the default Email app handle ActiveSync? Specifically Outlook.com accounts.

Thanks in advance for any replies

 

[BoboBrazil]

Or Nexus for that matter.

Yep, although Nexus adoption didn't really take off huge until the low priced Nexus 4. Now it's a viable line of phones.

 

[tr4656]

I'm a long time iPhone user, but my 3.5 year old iPhone 4, besides feeling really slow, is literally falling apart. I'm looking at the Moto G since it seems to be pretty good for the price and it's pretty much the only off contract phone I can afford right now that's not a piece of garbage (Nexus 5 would be better but it's not available in my country).

Could you guys recommend me some replacement apps? Preferably free:

Podcasts: On iOS I use the Apple app, which isn't very good.

Remote Desktop: I use LogMeIn Ignition on iOS. I know there's an Android version, but I don't want to have to buy it again (it's like $30). On iOS there's a free version of LogMein, but I can't find it in the Play Store. What's a good, free Remote Desktop App?

YouTube: On iOS, there's an app called MxTube, which allows me to easily download videos for later viewing. It's really handy since I spend several hours a day on the bus / subway, and saves me from having to burn my limited mobile data. Is there something similar for Android? There's an app called MxTube in the Play Store, but that one just streams audio.

Also, what's your PDF reader of choice?

Thanks in advance for any replies

For Podcast, Pocket Casts. Its paid but worth every cent. I just use the default PDF reader personally since it works fine.

 

[tr4656]

Yep, although Nexus adoption didn't really take off huge until the low priced Nexus 4. Now it's a viable line of phones.

Galaxy Nexus was okay, other than the fact that it had shit battery life (and caused me to buy another battery, blah) and a shit camera.

 

[gcubed]

For Podcast, Pocket Casts. Its paid but worth every cent. I just use the default PDF reader personally since it works fine.

ezpdf reader is pretty good, if a bit ugly, but the new quickoffice does a decent job of handling large PDFs

 

[The Faceless Master]

Not true. They offer a $15/month discount if you are not under contract now.

*googles*

oh wow, they announced that 3 weeks ago?! why weren't more people talking about this!?

 

[tino]

*googles*

oh wow, they announced that 3 weeks ago?! why weren't more people talking about this!?

Yeah I didn't know about this even though I read rss everyday. I only knows about the "get back on contract and we will give you 100" promotion.

 

[gcubed]

*googles*

oh wow, they announced that 3 weeks ago?! why weren't more people talking about this!?

because no one pays attention.

Although if you have an off contract phone there is no reason to go with ACTUAL ATT and not go with Prepaid ATT for even less

 

[Husker86]

because no one pays attention.

Although if you have an off contract phone there is no reason to go with ACTUAL ATT and not go with Prepaid ATT for even less

I'm always worried about roaming with prepaid plans. I know it doesn't seem logical, but AT&T does sometimes roam on someone else's network (I have no idea who that could be) and with GoPhone, you don't get roaming, right?

Straight Talk did let me roam, which was nice. It isn't something that happens often, but it's nice to have coverage in remote areas that you might not expect to have coverage.

Plus the limited LTE speeds...meh. I'll probably switch when my contract is up, but I wouldn't say there is no reason to be on AT&T proper.

Oh, and tethering.

 

[gcubed]

I can tether fine on aio... But yes you do get "slower" LTE speeds

 

[OriginalThinking]

This is a punishment from god: release phones with replaceable battery and SD slot, revenue good; release phone with no replaceable battery and SD slot, revenue bad!!! Mwahahaha

Na, it's down to shit marketing and a confused mid to low end strategy. That and Samsung's marketing, sales relations and flooding the market.

If there was a god, Samsung would be getting anally destroyed by a razor infested dildo of doom for software bloat and UI design.

Their downfall began when they lost the rooting community with all their locked bootloader shit back in the day. That's a large reason people moved to Samsung.

Nope, the root community do not influence the mass market purchaser anywhere near as much as you perceive.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Na, it's down to shit marketing and a confused mid to low end strategy. That and Samsung's marketing, sales relations and flooding the market.

If there was a god, Samsung would be getting anally destroyed by a razor infested dildo of doom for software bloat and UI design.

and yet the first thing people seem to ask when they consider running stock Android is "can i use [name of a samsung 'bloatware' app] with stock?"

 

[OriginalThinking]

and yet the first thing people seem to ask when they consider running stock Android is "can i use [name of a samsung 'bloatware' app] with stock?"

By people you mean mass market purchasers? And not the hard core who live in threads like this, on XDA and ...

What are the Samsung apps I should be installing?

 

[The Faceless Master]

so The Walking Dead Season 1 got released on Android exclusively for the Kindle Fire HDX on the Amazon Appstore?

yes, we all know what happened 5 minutes later...

By people you mean mass market purchasers? And not the hard core who live in threads like this, on XDA and ...

What are the Samsung apps I should be installing?

i mean the people around here and xda etc. the mass market runs TouchWiz and likes it.

 

[gcubed]

so The Walking Dead Season 1 got released on Android exclusively for the Kindle Fire HDX on the Amazon Appstore?

yes, we all know what happened 5 minutes later...



i mean the people around here and xda etc. the mass market runs TouchWiz and likes it.

i hope it got pirated


the mass market runs touchwiz because thats what the phone they have runs. Not that they like it

 

[OriginalThinking]

so The Walking Dead Season 1 got released on Android exclusively for the Kindle Fire HDX on the Amazon Appstore?

yes, we all know what happened 5 minutes later...



i mean the people around here and xda etc. the mass market runs TouchWiz and likes it.

Yes, that's true. The mass market also thinks that Barbie Girl by Aqua is a better song than anything Radiohead ever released. There's no accounting for that kind of behavior.

I'd honestly like to know what the Samsung apps are that are popular here. I might be missing out.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

At this point the only advantage tmobile has over att prepaid is advertising. AIO is cheaper, with infinitely better coverage and infinitely more LTE.

Tmobile needs to hurry up and expand their network because they don't really offer anything compelling anymore

AIO also locks down your LTE speeds so it's not even LTE, lol. (8 Mbps for LTE, 4 Mbps for HSPA+ max.) Also AIO might not even exist soon since AT&T's buying Cricket and their tech is incompatible.

Straight Talk is best (no pre-cap throttling, $10 cheaper, 0.5 GB more LTE data.)

 

[gcubed]

AIO also locks down your LTE speeds so it's not even LTE, lol. (8 Mbps for LTE, 4 Mbps for HSPA+ max.) Also AIO might not even exist soon since AT&T's buying Cricket and their tech is incompatible.

Straight Talk is best (no pre-cap throttling, $10 cheaper, 0.5 GB more LTE data.)

aio will exist as cricket or vice versa. Cricket's CDMA will cease to exist.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Yes, that's true. The mass market also thinks that Barbie Girl by Aqua is a better song than anything Radiohead ever released. There's no accounting for that kind of behavior.

I'd honestly like to know what the Samsung apps are that are popular here. I might be missing out.

i dunno if you in particular would be missing out, but people seem to ask if they can use the Samsung calendar, Samsung browser, S Beam, S Note and multiwindow with stock.

i hope it got pirated

5 minutes later.

the mass market runs touchwiz because thats what the phone they have runs. Not that they like it

of course.

 

[OriginalThinking]

i dunno if you in particular would be missing out, but people seem to ask if they can use the Samsung calendar, Samsung browser, S Beam, S Note and multiwindow with stock.




5 minutes later.


of course.

Instead of Google Calendar, Chrome/stock browser, Android Beam?

I'll give you multiwindow, I can see why custom rom users might be interested in that, though technically I don't think that's an app.

 

[gcubed]

S beam is much better then android beam

 

[The Faceless Master]

Instead of Google Calendar, Chrome/stock browser, Android Beam?

I'll give you multiwindow, I can see why custom rom users might be interested in that, though technically I don't think that's an app.

yes. chrome ... come on now ... even peeps with nexus devices don't stan chrome. absolutely.

oh, and the Samsung email app! though i hear that with 4.4, the stock email app is finally not shit.

 

[OriginalThinking]

S beam is much better then android beam

Beam me up Scotty.

 

[OriginalThinking]

yes. chrome ... come on now ... even peeps with nexus devices don't stan chrome. absolutely.

oh, and the Samsung email app! though i hear that with 4.4, the stock email app is finally not shit.

Dude it's not 2011. Chrome is pretty damn good now, unless you have a horrible CPU/GPU.

Spoiler

Stuff here

And yeah KitKat fixed the stock e-mail app.

 

[kehs]

I find it interesting that they wen't through the trouble of actually simulating the android beam for the commercial where it's mocking the function.

 

[OriginalThinking]

I find it interesting that they wen't through the trouble of actually simulating the android beam for the commercial where it's mocking the function.

Isn't that from a Nokia ad?

 

[The Faceless Master]

Isn't that from a Nokia ad?

Microsoft ad. before they owned Nokia.

 

[OriginalThinking]

Microsoft ad. before they owned Nokia.

They don't own them yet though do they? The Chinese might still throw a spanner in the works.

 

[kehs]

Isn't that from a Nokia ad?

Lumia/WP ad, which is why I'm wondering why they had to make it so accurate.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Lumia/WP ad, which is why I'm wondering why they had to make it so accurate.

why not? it looks they were trying to mock the very motion used to initiate the beam.

 

[tr4656]

Dude it's not 2011. Chrome is pretty damn good now, unless you have a horrible CPU/GPU.

Spoiler

Stuff here

And yeah KitKat fixed the stock e-mail app.

Exceot that Firefox still performs better.

 

[gcubed]

i dunno if you in particular would be missing out, but people seem to ask if they can use the Samsung calendar, Samsung browser, S Beam, S Note and multiwindow with stock.




5 minutes later.


of course.

its upsetting that it took 5 minutes. Good for people, and f telltale

 

[Unknown Soldier]

S beam is much better then android beam

It is. Has Google finally implemented Ad-Hoc WiFi for Android Beam transfers yet?

 

[Husker86]

I can tether fine on aio... But yes you do get "slower" LTE speeds

But it's not officially allowed, is it? I switch between phones sometimes, and one of them is an iPhone and I really don't like to jailbreak iPhones anymore. Plus, isn't AT&T pretty strict when people were tethering on their unlimited plans? I'd be worried that they would cancel the account for violating TOS or something.

They bought Cricket??

 

[EulaCapra]

I need your help GAF-Wizards!

I posted in the HTC One thread half a month ago about an ongoing Wifi problem. I didn't think it was the new router/Gateway playing shenanigans with my HTC One causing it to have super fast Wifi speed loading pages in 0.5-1.5 seconds one minute and then super slow Wifi speed loading pages in 15-30 seconds the next. All of my other Wifi devices are unaffected and the phone had been playing nice with the Gateway for a month prior to acting up.

So today I logged on to the Gateway's IP address and under "Connected Devices" on my laptop and when the HTC One is loading super fast as normal, it has an IPV6 Address listing underneath it. But then 10 minutes later, when my HTC One started to slow to a crawl, I checked my laptop and its IPV6 Address was gone. I even tested the IPV6 on separate occasions.
This test took barely 3 seconds to finish.

10 minutes later... this same test took over a minute to finish.

GAF-Wizards, what is this madness?

Edit: I may have solved my own problem. It was literally Comcast's fault. It was blocking the IPV6 address for some unknown reason, probably thinking it was the new next door neighbor's.

 

[gcubed]

But it's not officially allowed, is it? I switch between phones sometimes, and one of them is an iPhone and I really don't like to jailbreak iPhones anymore. Plus, isn't AT&T pretty strict when people were tethering on their unlimited plans? I'd be worried that they would cancel the account for violating TOS or something.

They bought Cricket??

No idea. I just push the button on the phone and it works, and yes they bought cricket a while ago and are going to merge it with aio

 

[Bboy AJ]

Every year people get hyped over mobile Nvidia stuff and every year they let us down. Don't fall for it again.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Every year people get hyped over mobile Nvidia stuff and every year they let us down. Don't fall for it again.

but Tegra 4 was powerful! just too hot for phones!!!

the real news is the custom 64bit dual core CPU!

 

[Vanillalite]

Tegra 3 and Tegra 4 leveraged none of Nvidias existing GPU stuff though.

Now that project denver is a different beast. The 32 bit chip is a bit of a half assed stopgap though.

 

[kehs]

Every year people get hyped over mobile Nvidia stuff and every year they let us down. Don't fall for it again.

I saw the link brett posted, and I saw "192 cores!" and I'm like....who gives a shit, you're nvidia.

 

[jey_16]

while the htc one is definitely pretty, and i really really like the front speakers... its just a terrible product to hold (IMO). I was more sold on it BEFORE i owned it instead of after I did.

Really? I thought the one felt great in the hand, the curve really helped especially compared to the Xperia Z/Z1. Every time I'm on the verge of buying a Sony phone and then I go into the store and actually hold one in my hand and it feels so angular and sharp, basically like they forgot about ergonomics when designing and went for something that looked good in pictures. Despite the Note 3 actually being bigger, it was actually easier to hold which made the decision much easier. Should be getting it later this week