I like Sony's phones, but don't get the Z5. It has a Qualcomm SD810. Wait for the XZ which looks pretty good.
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I like Sony's phones, but don't get the Z5. It has a Qualcomm SD810. Wait for the XZ which looks pretty good.
Nikodemos
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The XZ and X Performance are basically the same phone, except the XZ has an extra 0.2'' display-wise. I'd go for the X Per, myself. It's bound to be cheaper.
The X Performance appears to be somewhat of a downgrade compared to the Z5 Premium when I read/watch reviews. Their phone lineup is confusing.
I know the X is more recent, but is it actually better?
Doesn't the XZ have a revised 820? I know it has a better camera at least. Probably not worth the price difference.
For the SoC alone, it should be.
Nikodemos
Member
The XZ has literally the same internal specs as the X Performance. According to the GSM Arena comparo tool, it has a better camera and USB-C instead of the same ol' Micro-USB connector (and a bigger screen). Unless either of those are a dealbreaker, I'd get the X Perf.
Not really. It's just less premium-'feeling' - for lack of a better word - compared to the Z5 (something that can be said about the entire X series). Regardless of how lacklustre the SD820 is (and it is), it's nowhere near as bad as the 810.
I should know, I have a Z5 Compact; probably the best SD810 phone, which is really not saying much.
It's possible that they'll pull a Nexus 5/6 and just put it on sale without an event.
Seems unlikely given the supposed greater marketing push for the Pixel phones, but possible.
It seems that the X Performance doesn't have the fingerprint scanner in Canada. What kind of stupid decision is that? Unless I'm missing something. For a moderate to heavy user, is the battery good enough to last a day?
Maybe I'll stick with my Note Edge for a bit. I thought the Z5 would be a good replacement.
Maybe I'll stick with my Note Edge for a bit. I thought the Z5 would be a good replacement.
Jazzy Network
Member
Never?
Canadian Z5 Premium has one.
Yeah, it's like the new Google Pixel Launcher but without the Google button and calendar.
I can't fathom why anyone would want a Sony phone. The Z3 series was good, but their current lineup is average at best and horribly overpriced to boot. So many great phones out there that just blow Sony out of the water.
Their only saving grace is the fact that they are the only Android OEM to release small phones with good specs, but even this year's compact lacks am SD820.
Their only saving grace is the fact that they are the only Android OEM to release small phones with good specs, but even this year's compact lacks am SD820.
nah their settings is confusing. go to 'sounds & vibrations' do not disturb is in the middle.
this - but I would say the Z3 series was not just good, but rather it was great
MuddyDonut
Member
Man the only case for a Z Play over last year's Moto X is, what, the mods? Then again I don't know how the 625 compares to an 808, but Reddit seems to be on my side.
Man I want another Moto but the Z doesn't seem like it is it. Might just settle on an OP3. Axon looks good, but I saw some lag in comparison vids and I ain't about that.
You can add Gmail accounts to outlook easy enough... Also you. Can add .outlook accounts to Gmail as Exchange accounts and select manual settings (dismiss the keyboard after entering your password without hitting enter and you will see manual setup). Then name the server s.outlook.com
That will sync outlook accounts in Google calendar if that's what you were looking for? When you add an item in your Google calendar it will appear on your outlook account in other devices and vice versa
Must be outlook though, no Hotmail or live accounts
Holy shit. Not in the beta but for the nova launcher this thing is amazing
And yep swipe up for Now, down for notifications double tap sleep..
Really changes the way I see Android
brotkasten
Member
How do you use double-tap to sleep in conjunction with a fingerprint reader to unlock it again? When I enabled it, I had to unlock the phone with a pattern.
If you flash an unrooted stock rom Pay should come back.
Really thinking about selling my Axon 7 and getting the V20. As much as I love the Axon 7, the V20's camera is probably the best around on any phone + it has a DAC that should match/surpass the Axon 7. Just wish it had an OLED screen.
thanks! guess I'll do this and prevent Gmail from syncing the emails too (else I'll have both Gmail and Outlook sending me notifications for the same work mail)
Xisiqomelir
Member
24-hour review of the R7:
-LOVE that the feeble 615 leaves the battery the fuck alone, returning me to >24 hours usable
-Also love that the 8 cores and 4GB RAM enable my open-apps-and-never-close them habit
-The tectonic-plate-sized body isn't actually as terrible as I thought it would be, but it depends on my pants for the day
-CM 13 is really nice
-Speakers actually seem to be a little better than the Z3's
In the spirit of the Android OT:
-No FM radio hardware
-No real dual-SIM, the hybrid tray means you either pick SIM #2 or the microSD
-LOVE that the feeble 615 leaves the battery the fuck alone, returning me to >24 hours usable
-Also love that the 8 cores and 4GB RAM enable my open-apps-and-never-close them habit
-The tectonic-plate-sized body isn't actually as terrible as I thought it would be, but it depends on my pants for the day
-CM 13 is really nice
-Speakers actually seem to be a little better than the Z3's
In the spirit of the Android OT:
-No FM radio hardware
-No real dual-SIM, the hybrid tray means you either pick SIM #2 or the microSD
Legit though, I am really happy with this thing
The Faceless Master
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IIRC if you root in a way that Knox can detect it will blow an efuse and Samsung Pay will never work on that device.
but can you set an expiration time on it? that's what's supposedly missing
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
They gotta have an event to fully unveil Google DayDream at the very least.
Why would invites need to be sent out 3 weeks in advance? Apple sends out invites a week before.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but it's difficult to search for.
In older Android versions, it was possible to get rid of the LED notification light flashing by pressing the lock button twice, so that the device sort of knows you've read it. But that seems to have been removed in Nougat - the only way I can find to remove the flashing is by removing the notification that is causing the light (i.e. the latest notification) by swiping it away or opening it.
The thing is that the blinking distracts me to no end, but I still want the phone in my eyesight to see incoming notifications. I also don't want to remove the notification because then I will forget about it.
Can't find anything in the options for this. Help? Why would they make this change in the first place?
In older Android versions, it was possible to get rid of the LED notification light flashing by pressing the lock button twice, so that the device sort of knows you've read it. But that seems to have been removed in Nougat - the only way I can find to remove the flashing is by removing the notification that is causing the light (i.e. the latest notification) by swiping it away or opening it.
The thing is that the blinking distracts me to no end, but I still want the phone in my eyesight to see incoming notifications. I also don't want to remove the notification because then I will forget about it.
Can't find anything in the options for this. Help? Why would they make this change in the first place?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Apple usually is earlier than that, and even still it was a full 10 days out.
If you wanted till the following Monday after next week you'd be under the 10 day mark.
For example Apple was 10 days out. Samsung was 20.
You usually need to give somewhere between those numbers to give journalists time to plan. You also don't send invites out on Fridays or Weekends obviously.
osiris3355
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Apple and Samsung have no stock and Google's not ready to take advantage.
Figures.
Figures.
Yep that's what I did. Just turned off mail from Gmail in those accounts. Works just fine
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
That 821 better be fast as fuck as Google has made us wait all year for this.
Current OEM owners have had 820s all year, and the 10nm 830 is looming.
Current OEM owners have had 820s all year, and the 10nm 830 is looming.
Nikodemos
Member
It's just a faster 820, just like the 801 was a faster 800. Don't expect miraculously high performance gains from it.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I know.
It's just inversing how they handle innards it means where as they launched ahead of everyone else with the Nexus 4 and 5 they are launching behind everyone else now with the 6P and Pixel phones.
So you have less time with it being best hardware in Android land and more time waiting for the next Google phones while OEMs leap frog to the new chipset.
The longer they wait the shorter the time frame they have.
Google should move Android's cycle to spring so they can follow Qualcomm like everyone else.
Nikodemos
Member
Yeah, aren't some foundries skipping 10 nm altogether? Reputedly there are hints that 10 nm would be another 20 nm, an expensive process with bad yields and disappointing performance.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
The 830 is next year's chipset and that's gonna be 10nm.
If we go off the fact that the Google Phones won't be out till basically Nov then yes the 830 will be looming.
Next year's crop of phones will start being unveiled in January. Samsung dropped that S7 reveal in Feb of this year.
So for Google the gap between the first set of Snapdragon 820 devices and the Pixel launch is waayy larger than the gap between Pixel phones and next year's devices.
It's why they need to push to Spring to follow Qualcomm's cycle.
wonder if qualcomm is feeling any of the pressure from apple. They got blind sided when apple went 64bit with the phones, and now that A10 is wrecking all benchmarks and climbing into laptop cpu performance.
They do still kind of have a decent niche, really its just them and mediatek, but with the largest phone companies in the world (apple huawei samsung) all have their own in house stuff, heck we just had the very first huawei phone in the US with a kirin processor. Hope the 830 is the 'next big thing'.
Wonder if samsung will do SD830 in the US for their flagships.
I do wonder if samsung will ever look at 'performance' again. There was a time when Galaxy phones were the snappiest of android devices. And I bet those popular speedtest videos and that XDA article might have upset some decision maker exec at samsung.
Doesn't seem like the wisest move to launch a phone in the timeframe of the s8 though.
They do still kind of have a decent niche, really its just them and mediatek, but with the largest phone companies in the world (apple huawei samsung) all have their own in house stuff, heck we just had the very first huawei phone in the US with a kirin processor. Hope the 830 is the 'next big thing'.
Wonder if samsung will do SD830 in the US for their flagships.
I do wonder if samsung will ever look at 'performance' again. There was a time when Galaxy phones were the snappiest of android devices. And I bet those popular speedtest videos and that XDA article might have upset some decision maker exec at samsung.
Doesn't seem like the wisest move to launch a phone in the timeframe of the s8 though.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Qualcomm's edge is two fold.
They got them patients in the US hence companies like Samsung still using them when needed vs paying royalties.
And their Adreno GPU generally wipes the floor with stuff the competition.
Other chip manufacturers have caught up on the CPU side. The GPU side is still an easy win for them which could become more of a boon if VR takes off.
PS: I say that about the Pixel phones above cause Google seems to be going to charge flagship like pricing.
They got them patients in the US hence companies like Samsung still using them when needed vs paying royalties.
And their Adreno GPU generally wipes the floor with stuff the competition.
Other chip manufacturers have caught up on the CPU side. The GPU side is still an easy win for them which could become more of a boon if VR takes off.
PS: I say that about the Pixel phones above cause Google seems to be going to charge flagship like pricing.
Google is the one got blind sided by the 64bit move. It's not as if the Android OS is really taking advantage of 64bit architecture or even specifically optimized for it. And because of that, all the OEMs are just adding more ram to claim superiority, which seems to play well with some Android crowd, when in reality it's not doing much past 4GB.
The 7+ is still using Qualcomm's radios: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+7+Plus+Teardown/67384
Not using Intel yet, it seems
Not using Intel yet, it seems
So Apple sent out invites on August 29th a Monday for a Sept 7th a Wednesday of the following week. What's to stop Google from sending invites the Sept 26th a Monday for the the 4th of October the following Tuesday? Tech reporters are pretty much expecting something to be coming, not like you're catching them off guard. What else would they be doing?
wonder if they are multiple sourced? Last year's 6S had the a9 chip sourced from samsung and TSMC i think
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Working? Doing their day job? Trying not to pay exorbitant last minute plane ticket prices? Trying to actually plan and get a hotel and stuff and not be scrambling?
How did you manage that?