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Android |OT7| Now With a Whole New Messaging System
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LostMyNarbles
Member
What's up with all these shipment issues for phones? The Axon 7 still isn't in regular supply and I was looking to get a OP3, but sure enough it is pushed back to October.
osiris3355
Banned
you mean no one is using the app that came out last night?
It's a big flop. I think Google is doomed. So do you think they will cancel android soon?
for a7, b&h has the grey in stock right now.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1257204-REG/zte_a7g331_axon_7_64gb_smartphone.html
Unknown Soldier
Member
I got the notice to upgrade to Allo. Feeling conflicted right now
Heh, I've been trying for an Axon with no luck and people are already moving on from it.
That's the point of splitting Allo and Hangouts.
The problem is that you don't choose your messaging app; your messaging app chooses you. In most countries Whatsapp, Line and Telegram are so entrenched that next to nothing would get them to change. I know for sure that no one ever will use Allo in my country other than the most fervent of Google fans. Whatsapp is so widely used that people no longer say "give me your number", they say "give me your whatsapp" .
The US is an interesting case since they haven't really settled on a successor to SMS. iPhone users use iMessage, of course, but there's no ubiquitous cross platform solution. Allo might have a shot at winning that market, something Hangouts failed to accomplish. Not beating iMessage, that ship sailed years ago, but as the fallback cross platform solution people default to.
Some dude in reddit was speculating that Google engineered Allo specifically for the nascent Indian market which as of 2016 has surpassed the US in terms of total smartphone users, thus the reason for the SMS relay feature, a majority of the population over there hasn't moved to smartphones yet. Who knows.
In other news, has anyone noticed that Spotify changed the look of their persistent notification / controls? It looks more in line with other Nougat notifications now, but also weirdly bland.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Jazzy Network
Member
Yea anyone sends me an Allo message can lose my number.
So I've let Nougat settle in for a few days on my 6p, battery life is only marginally less than I was getting on MM, currently able to get 4.5 hours sot, was able to get around 5 hours on MM.
I think the Android OS/ System "drains" are other processes that have been grouped together under the OS/System name.
I think the Android OS/ System "drains" are other processes that have been grouped together under the OS/System name.
Not yet. Hasnt even rolled out in my country, so I grabbed the apk and just played around with the assistant.
osiris3355
Banned
Not really... That's just the "initial" target market for Allo. You don't intentially split a userbase for a consumer facing message platform.
Hangouts is not going to be for geek like consumers, it is just going to be for business users.
Allo will get the missing features the geeks want. We are just not the initial target market since there are less of us.
Sacrifices always have to be made. When you remake software from scratch you cant get everything new and old out on day 1. It is just not realistic.
are you using any IMs and/or Chrome?
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Allo is pretty fun. Google Assistant can be pretty hilarious
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Yes and it's pretty great. The sms issues are real, yeah, but the messaging itself is good. People here cling onto sms fallback and that's understandable for them. It's not an issue for me.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
.@AndroidPolice: Google's Pixel phones will be IP53 rated, meaning no dunking your Pixel or hosing it down https://t.co/g8YPW5BFPN https://t.co/vFLjOs2sns
LOL
LOL
Vyse The Legend
Member
The Pixels continue to be a dumpster fire.
Yep. This is my life. People I know that don't know the first thing about tech love it. Everyone I know who is either in IT or app development thinks it's lacking. I wouldn't say garbage, because it's not. It's a solid app with a lot of neat features, but it's not what a lot of people wanted it to be.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Somehow the movie Pixels might possibly be less of a let down than this phone.
It can't replace hangouts for me unless it has competent SMS integration - and through Google Voice.
Like I said in the OT thread, Google is really shitting the bed this year. It's unreal.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Yeah, I was hoping Huawei would do the phone again this year; they can afford to price competitively. HTC cannot; they're on life support, as is.
osiris3355
Banned
The 6p was waterproof?
Sigh, I need a new phone and everything about the pixels sounds disappointing.
They weren't asking iPhone pricing for the 6p either.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Simple, they went from Huawei to HTC.
The Chinese manufacturers are ascending fast, Samsung better watch the fuck out cause the Chinese phones don't explode either.
Allo is a piece of shit. Lmao SMS through Google server relays. Fuck all these messaging apps. Seriously why would I use this crap? Hangouts and Whatsapp doeverything I need. And Google Assistant, just another way for Google to spy on you and collect data.
Uninstall. This app is a waste of time.
Uninstall. This app is a waste of time.
osiris3355
Banned
I wonder if the new HTCs will do this?
https://youtu.be/tTIaUH6PIvo
My coworker is on his 2nd 6p. Both have bent even though they are in a heavy duty case
Bendgate was so last year.
I don't know though. My S6 and S7 have never bent.
Samsung seems to care more about Android than Google.
osiris3355
Banned
Samsung cares so much about android they built their own OS to replace it.
It's not like Chrome OS lit the world on fire either.
osiris3355
Banned
Yes but the bending is an even bigger problem. Imo
Unknown Soldier
Member
Samsung is a big company and it's smart to hedge your bets when you're a big company which is wholly dependent on another big company to supply the operating system for your biggest consumer electronics division.
osiris3355
Banned
Thanks for proving my point. To say they actually care about Android is a joke.
Are any of their devices using Android anymore that aren't phones? I can't think of one.
The Faceless Master
Member
battery life on my new Note 7 seems about the same as my old one.
and by about the same i mean fantastic.
2h SOT in a 8h work day with 65% left and 5h SOT in a 16h day with 15% left
how much more could it go with Power Saving on, AOD off and not being tethered to a Gear Fit 2?
and by about the same i mean fantastic.
2h SOT in a 8h work day with 65% left and 5h SOT in a 16h day with 15% left
how much more could it go with Power Saving on, AOD off and not being tethered to a Gear Fit 2?
LostMyNarbles
Member
I mean, what do you define as "care" when it comes to Android? It seems like Android is simply a means to an end for any manufacturer that isn't Google.
Jazzy Network
Member
The Gear Fit 2 won't do much to the battery. It's on Bluetooth LE so maybe like 5% for the whole day? Very negligible.
Anyway I am considering getting an LG V20 :X
my point wasn't about the lack of waterproof features.
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and on Samsung - they definitely have great hardware but their software, despite all its improvements, leaves much to be desired.
- all the customization options seems to be lost with Samsung's variant
- not forgetting how they can be so lacking when it comes to software updates
- Samsung HQ really needs reconsider its approaches across countries and have some unified/standardisation systems of software updates and hardware releases
it probably can do better
friend's Note7 did 11hr with 50% left and 5hr SOT