It'd be insignificant unless you have a bad app that's causing the location services to stay on all the time.
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It'd be insignificant unless you have a bad app that's causing the location services to stay on all the time.
brotkasten
Member
Speaking of permissions. I just found out that the Playstation app won't work, unless I allow it to access my phone app. What the hell?
Android (stupidly) uses the phone app permission for access to several device unique identifiers. Why the fuck this was grouped in with the "phone" permission who knows.
brotkasten
Member
Thank you for the info. That's really weird and it sounds stupid.
osiris3355
Banned
HTc 10 edging out S7 on camera and battery in some situations.
Marty Chinn
Member
I'm surprised about the camera.
Anandtech stays winning with the most thorough reviews in the business.
Exclusive: this is what the 2016 Nexus phones, Sailfish and Marlin, will look like
bit more at link. this is a AP render, not press render
bit more at link. this is a AP render, not press render
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/07/05/verizons-fireworks-plan-changes-coming-july-7-include-price-hikes/
Verizon gonna raise rates again
How will the new plans look? Like this:
S: 2GB for $35 (was 1GB for $30)
M: 4GB for $50 (was 3GB for $45)
L: 8GB for $70 (was 6GB for $60)
XL: 16GB for $90 (was 12GB for $80)
XXL: 24GB for $110 (was 18GB for $100)
Verizon gonna raise rates again
How will the new plans look? Like this:
S: 2GB for $35 (was 1GB for $30)
M: 4GB for $50 (was 3GB for $45)
L: 8GB for $70 (was 6GB for $60)
XL: 16GB for $90 (was 12GB for $80)
XXL: 24GB for $110 (was 18GB for $100)
Exclusive: this is what the 2016 Nexus phones, Sailfish and Marlin, will look like
bit more at link. this is a AP render, not press render
I'm torn. Will have to wait and see what it looks in real life before judgement. But I'm so glad they finally ditched that huge Nexus branding on the back.
Exclusive: this is what the 2016 Nexus phones, Sailfish and Marlin, will look like
bit more at link. this is a AP render, not press render
Bezels are too big if there isn't a speaker on the bottom.
LostMyNarbles
Member
That looks freaking awesome. Really nice design and my first impression is that it just looks like a really premium device. Kind of interesting that the top of the back appears to have glass on it, it kind of reminds me of the iPhone 5 design in a way and I like it a lot. I wonder if we'll get wireless charging again if they have something like that going on.
The bezel looks pretty large, but I will hold reservations about that until I see the actual phone and how it feels in the hand.
The bezel looks pretty large, but I will hold reservations about that until I see the actual phone and how it feels in the hand.
Jigolo
Member
Phonearena coming in the clutch.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...-to-Snapdragon-flavor-heres-the-proof_id82900
Exynos vs 820
I'd say it's Samsung optimizing more for the Exynos AND the 8890 is slightly more power efficient. But I'd definitely want my phone running a 8890 now
Nexus 2016:
I like the render and overall design from what I see. Bezels are there still and still very large. But next year that will change for all major OEMs after the iPhone 8 comes out.
Hopefully we see some actual pictures pretty soon now that the renders are leaking
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...-to-Snapdragon-flavor-heres-the-proof_id82900
Exynos vs 820
I'd say it's Samsung optimizing more for the Exynos AND the 8890 is slightly more power efficient. But I'd definitely want my phone running a 8890 now
Nexus 2016:
I like the render and overall design from what I see. Bezels are there still and still very large. But next year that will change for all major OEMs after the iPhone 8 comes out.
Hopefully we see some actual pictures pretty soon now that the renders are leaking
Baroquemantic
Member
I like the design on the back of the new Nexus; shame about the bezels. I hope we get some real life leaks soon too.
Edit: ^ Again, why would the next iPhone influence bezel sizes on Android devices when a bunch of Android devices already have significantly smaller bezels?
Edit: ^ Again, why would the next iPhone influence bezel sizes on Android devices when a bunch of Android devices already have significantly smaller bezels?
Vyse The Legend
Member
I like the design a lot; shame about the single speaker, though. This is a render, so I'm withholding judgment on the (massive) bottom bezel.
With that all said, audio jack in both models or they are a total nonstarter.
With that all said, audio jack in both models or they are a total nonstarter.
Hamster Plugin
Member
Nexus 5 had a bit of a unique look to it, I don't know why they had to ditch it. New Nexuses don't look like must haves so I'll continue to be happy and impressed at my Oneplus 3.
Google is probably going to fuck over Europe with their prices anyway. I'm guessing that the new Nexus will be $500 for Americans with $100 free Play store credit, while Europe pays €700 and with no Play credit because fuck you.
Google is probably going to fuck over Europe with their prices anyway. I'm guessing that the new Nexus will be $500 for Americans with $100 free Play store credit, while Europe pays €700 and with no Play credit because fuck you.
Jigolo
Member
Because the big bezel influence that you see in the flagship android devices like HTC 10, LG G5, S7, 5X and 6P is from the big bezels you see on iPhones. Sure Android has had Sharp aquos, Xperia ZL, LG G2 and a myriad of other devices with smaller bezels than the iPhone over the years but major OEMs still opt to make their phones look like the iPhone look.
And again that will change when Apple decides to get rid of their bezels. So S9, HTC 12 etc in 2018
LostMyNarbles
Member
Not feeling confident Apple is going to wipe away the bezel in 2017. Whether people like it or not you have to make compromises to have the kind of hardware these phones have at the sizes they are. Apple in particularly does since I imagine the 3D Touch sensor takes up a lot of space inside their phones.
Fact is Apple has a 9 year record of having huge bezels in their phones. On top of that they also have relatively small battery's in them compared to competitor devices which makes me believe there simply isn't enough room to add something like a bigger battery and if that is true than making a phone with smaller dimensions would force a compromise.
Fact is Apple has a 9 year record of having huge bezels in their phones. On top of that they also have relatively small battery's in them compared to competitor devices which makes me believe there simply isn't enough room to add something like a bigger battery and if that is true than making a phone with smaller dimensions would force a compromise.
New Nexus looks bland. I prefer the look of the 6p, which is still the best looking phone out there by a country mile. The 6p has a classy yet distinctive look to it.
I mean, this new one is not awful but it's just another sleek jet black slab of glass and metal. It's just a render so we'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
What irks me the most is the downgrade to 5.5". It's too small, specially considering they also have a 5" model so I don't get the compromise. 5.7" is just right.
I mean, this new one is not awful but it's just another sleek jet black slab of glass and metal. It's just a render so we'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
What irks me the most is the downgrade to 5.5". It's too small, specially considering they also have a 5" model so I don't get the compromise. 5.7" is just right.
osiris3355
Banned
Google phones look nice. Too bad qualcomm sucks.
I bet Google leaves qualcomm in a year or two. They were already rumored to start designing chips in house at one point.
I bet Google leaves qualcomm in a year or two. They were already rumored to start designing chips in house at one point.
Testicular Sound Express
Member
What do you mean? Google doesn't make hardware yet. Are you referring to the other OEMs?
osiris3355
Banned
Google will be making hardware just like apple makes hardware. Design everything and outsource the manufacturing.
These new Nexus are basically what apple does minus the processor development. Doesn't sound like HTC had any say and just manufacturered what Google told them to. We saw in the past that Google was rumored to do its own processors so that's probably next.
Sqrt_minus_one
Member
Qualcomm sucks in what way?
Google IMO are not going to design their own SoC in the mobile space it does not make any sense (but when does big G ever make sense). If anything Qualcomm are the ones who are going to stop designing custom cores and will instead use tweaked ARM sourced cores in the future. There were strong rumours about that earlier in the year and pressure from shareholders to do just that.
osiris3355
Banned
How does Qualcomm not suck? Their chips were pathetic garbage in 2015 and in 2016 they still got smoked by Samsung/Apple. See link above for proof on the 2016 chip
Google already makes their own chips for their servers and were rumored to be hiring for chip development in mobile as well.
LostMyNarbles
Member
If they move away from Qualcomm and design their own SoC's similarly to what Apple does they could better optimize the hardware with their software which could lead to more efficiency for their own devices. It isn't that hard to believe given that Samsung makes their own chips and it was rumored LG would begin exploring that process last year when the 810 bombed. If Qualcomm screws up it seriously cripples a phone manufacturer so it would make sense company's might want to move away from them.
Also we've seen through benchmarks that Samsung's own Exynos 8890 beats the 820 in various benchmarks and either matches or loses slightly in others. Also, as the link Jigolo posted above shows the battery life with the Exynos is MUCH better because it is more efficient.
Sqrt_minus_one
Member
The 810 & 808 I don't really hold against them, Apple pivoted the entire industry on 64bit - suddenly OEMs are demanding you have a 64bit capable cpu and Qualcomm's was not ready if anything it was a feat in itself to get those 2 chips out of the door. Inevitably though as with most things that are rushed you screw something up. In addition ARM themselves with the A73 (& A72 to an extent) indicated that they (ARM) made a mistake in trying to design 1 chip to straddle both servers and phones. Hence the focus on A72 and A73 on perf/mm2 and the existence of the upcoming ARM server chip.
As for the 820 I think us Android users need to bear the following in mind
1. Apple don't really compete in the same market as most Android manufacturers excepts Samsung in the premium segment and no one else when you are talking about the standard iPhone x(s). Apples CPU cores are a lot larger than either Qualcomm or ARM cores. Apple is able to do this as they are in the premium segment of hardware and will also recoup revenue via iTunes, music, Books all the other software add ons Android OEMs will never see. So they are selling the Apple "experience" other Android OEMs cant afford to be using very large cores they have costs to worry about I think thats why Qualcomm is not going there. One of Huawei's directors mentioned something to that effect when asked why they went with Mali 880MP4 only and not MP8 or MP12. He said reasons were a - customers are not usually GPU bound and b - cost.
2. 820 unfortunately may be another botched design / implementation - apparently it has an L3 cache on shipping processors which is disabled for unknown reasons, I think they have left some performance on the table.
After seeing the benches of the A72 powered Huawei P9 I asked Andrei Frumusanu of Anandtech how come on his opinion of the A72 vs 820 vs 8890 his response was it appears to be more software optimisation that made the Kirin 950(A72) win. Other Android oem's were just not optimising software that aggresively - this is another advantage Apple has over everyone else. Would not surprise me if Samsungs 8890 implementations were better tuned to their software too. Andrei mentioned that both the 8890 and 820 were not appreciably distinguishable from the A72 in terms of power or efficiency - most anticipated article this year hands down for me is the upcoming 820 deep dive article from Ananadtech.
If Google make a high end chip they would have to achieve decent volume on Nexus hardware to see any kind of return on the cost - increasing Nexus volumes will piss off oems. Google's server chips were I believe specialist network orientated chips - though I would have to look again.
Definitely agree on the optimisation front but as I said above it will royally piss off a lot of oems - second is Google really a hardware company designing you own SoC is a significant cost. Apple is able to get away with it as they look to be quite tightly integrated. Samsung is a lot larger and more capable than most Android oems they can afford to do such things to keep up. LG did ship a custom SoC it was called Orion it made it into some low end devices and promptly disappeared.
I think Samsung is in a different place to other Android oems they are pushing to innovate and stay ahead of the curve which is why I view them as Apples only competitor in the Android world. From Edge screens, Galaxy Note, Samsung pay (bigger than Android Pay?), UFS 2.0, Gear VR, S Health etc Samsung is attempting to keep up with Apple no one else in the Android world is even close. If Google design a chip they would have to supply it to everyone and more than likely optimise around it to help other oems out - Google would have to become a hardware company or risk bifurcating android with Googles version and oems version a step behind struggling to keep up if they kept the chip and associated optimisations to themselves - which is what Samsung has done with the 8890.
8890 might just be better optimised - Anand before he went to work for Apple once mentioned that Samsung and Qualcomm used to release their own verions of the Chrome library optimised for their chips.
So I'm frustrated with mobile phone battery life (an Nexus 5x). To the point that I'm looking around for new options 6 months after buying a phone.
It all started well enough, but after starting to use my phone for extensive health and fitness tracking my phones battery life has crashed (though its still fine if I dont use it for that, so I dont think its a faulty battery)
So I am looking around for options. And android is a frustration as I also want prompt and decent software updates, which means the number of options is low. Will the Samsung S7 even get Nougat this year? How good is the Mate8 other than battery?
I've also considered even jumping to iOS as Apple seems to be doing a better job on healthkit etc than google is androidfit, but a poor battery life story there has me reticent. Especially given the crazy price for say a 6sPlus or a 7Plus. Though they at least get several years of os updates.
Anyone have any experience/suggestions?
It all started well enough, but after starting to use my phone for extensive health and fitness tracking my phones battery life has crashed (though its still fine if I dont use it for that, so I dont think its a faulty battery)
So I am looking around for options. And android is a frustration as I also want prompt and decent software updates, which means the number of options is low. Will the Samsung S7 even get Nougat this year? How good is the Mate8 other than battery?
I've also considered even jumping to iOS as Apple seems to be doing a better job on healthkit etc than google is androidfit, but a poor battery life story there has me reticent. Especially given the crazy price for say a 6sPlus or a 7Plus. Though they at least get several years of os updates.
Anyone have any experience/suggestions?
BoboBrazil
Member
I've seen $320-$400 on average. You can get a brand new one from T-MOBILE for like $420 if you have a previous lg phone.
osiris3355
Banned
And once again Qualcomm ruining a phone experience. People are still not realizing we are in a Qualcomm hangover from 2015. Battery on the 5x was awesome until Google had to crank up idle frequency to help fix the crappy 808 performance. That change ruined the battery.
Google fit is making vast improvements.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...rankings-target-weight-and-more-apk-teardown/
Why wouldn't you wait until the new Nexus devices or iPhone 7?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
APK Mirror has the Pokemon Go APK
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/niantic-inc/pokemon-go/pokemon-go-0-29-0-release/pokemon-go-0-29-0-android-apk-download/
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/niantic-inc/pokemon-go/pokemon-go-0-29-0-release/pokemon-go-0-29-0-android-apk-download/
Though as I said, prior going into lots of fitness tracking, gps and blutooth usage my 5x was fine, getting me 2-3 days. Now though I'm lucky to last the day sometimes.
Which is annoying. My only option seems to disable them all except when I really need em. Which is frustrating.
Well...some progress but really not enough or in the direction I'd like compared to healthkit. I'd like more work done on health as much as fitness.
Well I am...this is just a cry of frustration. Perhaps hoping there's some other solution that people know about for me.
I'm not that hopefully wrt Apple given they care more about thin-ness than battery life.
crazy monkey
Banned
That render looks as blend as phone can be with no imagination. Giant bottom bezel should be used for speakers or buttons.
I'm asking how low can I get a G5 for?
Don't need it, but don't mind a cheap upgrade.
Exclusive: this is what the 2016 Nexus phones, Sailfish and Marlin, will look like
bit more at link. this is a AP render, not press render
Giant bezels are giant.
Looks like an Android One phone.
Lowest is $450 in Houston. Would definitely jump on one for $320.
Maybe the V10 drove the price of the G4 down but $240 for one back in September was truly a steal.
sleverfunk
Member
Lol whats the glass for?
Jzero
Member
Definitely skipping this year, looks cheap af
AbandonedTrolley
Member
How are you getting the hourly to show in the notification? I can get the main forecast but not that bit.
brotkasten
Member
I don't get the hate for the render. It doesn't look remarkable, but cheap as fuck? That doesn't make sense to me. Not to mention that everyone hated 6P renders and now it's the most beautiful phone created by God, apparently.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Render almost looks like it's matte bottom and gloss top on the back. Could be interesting.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Exclusive: this is what the 2016 Nexus phones, Sailfish and Marlin, will look like
bit more at link. this is a AP render, not press render
So Google are gonna fill in the nav buttons :O
brotkasten
Member
It's been known for a while now.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...g-androids-home-and-navigation-buttons-again/
On that note, I really like the content on Android Police and I think it's the best Android-related site out there. But man, their Verge-ripoff layout and site is slow as shit. It's absolutely terrible to use.
Baroquemantic
Member
There is no bezel influence. Whenever this redesigned iPhone arrives, it will be Apple catching up to everyone else. Samsung, LG, Motorola, Sony and the myriad of other OEMs already make phones, including flagships, that don't have an iPhone look.
So we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.