Ante up - Predict how successful Marathon will be

How successful will Marathon be?

  • Huge: It will establish itself on console and have a comparable PC audience to the top titles

    Votes: 16 4.3%

  • Moderate: It will find a loyal, moderate audience on console, and become part of a regular rotation

    Votes: 135 36.3%

  • Poor: It will be rejected by console players and not draw in a sizeable PC audience

    Votes: 221 59.4%
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cormack12

cormack12

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Thought it would be good to revisit this in 7/8 months time, well probably more like 12 when it's had time to establish itself during the launch window.
 
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Not a total flop because some loyal people will keep it going for a bit due to them liking Destiny, plus it's multiplatform so it can maybe generate a bit of word of mouth to get the mid 10's of thousands but without regular content it will whittle down and be a dud long before it would have if it was made 6-7 years ago.
 
Moderate

No way it dies. It will keep improving with time, Bungie will do what they do best by drip feeding content when their ass is on the line. Will find good audience at console side.
 
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I have zero interest and regard Bungie as one of the most overrated studios in gaming history but I recognize they have a loyal following so I think the game will find moderate success. Still, what PlayStation *needs* out of Bungie is a massive hit and I don't believe this is it.
 
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ChorizoPicozo said:
is Destiny (3) or Marathon; only one can survive.
in 3 years after marathon releases will have the answer.
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Marathon is purely PvP
While Destiny 2 is PvE. PvP is an afterthought. Bungie's plan is for both of them to survive. Infact that is why no innovation was done in D2 PVP because it was transferred to Marathon.
 
It's not £70, they said it's a premium title but it won't have a premium price.

Personally I think it looks okay and it might find success.

It looks hella better than that pile of shit Concord.
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
Yeah, I dont see that happening.
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So you think they purposely plan to abandon Destiny 2 Casual PvE proven cashcow to an unproven extraction shooter that caters to only hardcore players ?

They might leave Destiny 2 on life support with signs of life every other expansion but no way they will let either of these babies die. They are not an indie company which can't support two games. And even with D2 being at all time low still sits at Top50 most played game on Steam.
 
It's bold of them not to have any looting element you get to keep beyond the session (if I heard correct), that's what keeps Destiny alive. That means that their core gameplay will have to be something that you can't find from the likes of Fortnite, CoD, Finals, and Apex. I've only seen some gameplay but I am not seeing anything that would put it on a league of its own, so we'll just have to wait and see. $70 is a pretty high barrier to entry for a game like this that's often F2P. Either their super confident in their formula or out of touch.
 
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It's not enough to be a good multiplayer shooter anymore. The market is too saturated. You have differentiate enough to get people to migrate off the Big Dogs:
Call of Duty
Fortnite
Apex Legends
Counter Strike

And to truly differentiate from those, you have to do something fundamentally unique and groundbreaking. Something like PUBG did. And I don't see that here.
 
Poor. People that have COD are not going to move over to this. And with plenty of free to play options releasing a full price shooter just doesnt make sense in this market. This game will eventually go free to play like Destiny 2. And if Sony is really desperate they'll put this on gamepass lol.
 
I'm going with poor right now, things might change with the beta. I'll give it a try as the art style is interesting.
I tried the concord beta and that confirmed it was a shit through and through.
 
Bungie has dedicated fans that could very well support the game longer than intended even if it doesn't check all the boxes. It just really depends on how it releases, and the content rollout after that. I could see it doing moderate. But I could also see it failing. It just really depends on a lot of variables.

But I've yet to see anyone genuinely feel like this game is huge, revolutionary, etc. So I doubt it will be super successful. This sounds bizarre to me in a number of ways because it sounds like the most lukewarm reception to a game like this with this kind of budget.
 
Going with PISS poor. I dont see the hype behind this game atm. Of course nothing will be on level of Concord (my beloved)... but I have a feeling its just not it.
 
Need more info. We still really don't know enough yet about cost, gated content, etc.

This was an extremely poor showing that only left people with more questions. For something releasing so soon they have been surprisingly vague and that is a huge red flag.
 
This game is going to do very well if they price it at $40 or less. They need an extended beta ahead of launch though.
 
Everything's relative, so it kind of depends what the comparison is. If it's being compared to Bungie's old Halo/Destiny games, or against COD then it'll do worse.

But it is multiplatform and still a Bungie shooter, so it'll do better than most shooters.

But I still chose Poor because I dont see this game being big at all regardless. And the higher the price the worse it'll do.
 
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Loomy said:
This game is going to do very well if they price it at $40 or less. They need an extended beta ahead of launch though.
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Maybe. If they can get the Apex and Valorent crowd to play it, or the Destiny folks. Tarkov players might not like the art direction or the forced team aspect. So it's going to be interesting.
 
Jinzo Prime said:
Maybe. If they can get the Apex and Valorent crowd to play it, or the Destiny folks. Tarkov players might not like the art direction or the forced team aspect. So it's going to be interesting.
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Yeah, they need to work on convincing people to play it. You're right about Tarkov players though. At least until it's a proven entity.
 
This isn't Bungie, hot off of Halo, launching Destiny where the world was waiting to see what they would do. This is Bungie coming off of Destiny, where they burned good will for years, now with Sony's logo front and centre who themselves fresh off of Concord's history-making failure. Today's previews are mixed and the general reception seems to have landed at "Is this it?". The deck is stacked against them from a PR perspective six months from launch. I think Bungie are in real trouble here, frankly.
  1. It's a niche genre.
  2. Bungie haven't innovated. At all.
  3. It has a price tag as well as Bungie's now-standard over-monetisation structure.
  4. The art direction is downright garish at times.
As a multiplayer shooter, if it doesn't hit critical mass quickly, it's dead regardless of whether it has core fans or not. These are all blockers for people to buy in and will directly limit it's initial uptake, putting the critical mass point at higher risk. If the game itself was packed to the gills, they might win over a tight critical mass through sheer variety, but - just like with Destiny - they're launching super light and with extremely questionable design choices.
  1. Full wipe every three months.
  2. Story completely limited to unlockable text.
  3. Six heroes.
  4. Three small maps.
I said it in the other thread, but I'll re-state it here: this isn't Destiny, where the PvE grind might be enough to carry the experience long enough for them to basically re-develop the game once it's live. I think this launches strong due to Bungie and Sony pushing streamers to run it, but the players walk away after the first season wipe kills all momentum, then its full free to play in six months, and shut down 12 months after launch, with Bungie layoffs soon after.
 
It's this what matters in this board? What happened to appreciating a game if it's good fun? I mean, has anyone seen enough let alone played this game to write it off so quickly? Hasn't Bungie of all devs earned the benefit of the doubt? And what's with the sick obsession around here of wanting pretty much anything to flop? I mean I'm totally against Nintendo ripping people off but I don't want SW2 to flop miserably, how does that help anyone? What's so sinful about Marathon you want it to flop so bad?
 
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It's this what matters in this board? What happened to appreciating a game if it's good fun? I mean, has anyone seen enough let alone played this game to write it off so quickly? Hasn't Bungie of all devs earned the benefit of the doubt? And what's with the sick obsession around here of wanting pretty much anything to flop? I mean I'm totally against Nintendo ripping people off but I don't want SW2 to flop miserably, how does that help anyone? What's so sinful about Marathon you want it to flop so bad?
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Bungie screwed over thousands of pvp players in destiny 2, so people are bitter that's what happens when they take for granted their user base. They couldn't care less they left D2 pvp out to dry for years, so why should I reward them? I'm not saying I won't play but I'm Def not going in with bells on and so happy for bungie.
 
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If they do free to play to $20 tops? Successful.

$40+ it's in trouble.

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I think it'll be a 20,000 player average game when the dust settles, and spikes when new seasons etc drop.
 
The game has no connection to the original whatsoever, so already alienating the original fanbase.

Its an extraction shooter, appealing to an already saturated market.

Graphics that looks unappealing, incomplete and color clash that rivals Concord.

Charging premium for a game that relies heavily on battle passes.
 
Hollywood Hitman said:
Bungie screwed over thousands of pvp players in destiny 2, so people are bitter that's what happens when they take for granted their user base. They couldn't care less they left D2 pvp out to dry for years, so why should I reward them? I'm not saying I won't play but I'm Def not going in with bells on and so happy for bungie.
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I was one of those invested in Destiny, even bought the expansion but in the end, what the hell was the game about?

Couldn't bring myself to play Destiny 2 because I know it will be nothing more than just endless battle passes of incomplete mess if a plot if it really did have one.
 
MayauMiao said:
I was one of those invested in Destiny, even bought the expansion but in the end, what the hell was the game about?

Couldn't bring myself to play Destiny 2 because I know it will be nothing more than just endless battle passes of incomplete mess if a plot if it really did have one.
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I couldn't tell ya I never cared about the stupid story in destiny but the gameplay was second to none, d1 was amazing and D2 had moments but eventually went on autopilot and they shit all over both PVE and pvp fans imo, so I just got nothing much for bungie currently.
 
I voted moderate because poor was too extreme a choice.

I think it will be between poor and moderate. It looks extremely ugly, I'm more excited for future Destiny expansions. This game is definitely not for me.
 
QLQ said:
It's this what matters in this board? What happened to appreciating a game if it's good fun? I mean, has anyone seen enough let alone played this game to write it off so quickly? Hasn't Bungie of all devs earned the benefit of the doubt? And what's with the sick obsession around here of wanting pretty much anything to flop? I mean I'm totally against Nintendo ripping people off but I don't want SW2 to flop miserably, how does that help anyone? What's so sinful about Marathon you want it to flop so bad?
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I've seen enough, I mean let's compare what this looks like compared to Destiny 1's first look 11 years ago. That looks better than this.

Plus it's pvpve……which is the absolute dog shit worst part of D2, so there is no high hope.
 
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The game has no connection to the original whatsoever, so already alienating the original fanbase.
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The original fanbase for Marathon is not large enough for it to matter. They are just using the IP because they own it and can mine it for sparse lore and story drops without having to do everything from scratch.
 
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