Hidden One
Member
It's gets very slow all the time and I have to constantly clear the ram and cache. Not too mention it's Verizon so the firmware updates come slow.
Apples Fall iPhone Event To Be Held Sept. 9
- Thread starter giga
- Start date
- Status
It's gets very slow all the time and I have to constantly clear the ram and cache. Not too mention it's Verizon so the firmware updates come slow.
You should get a Moto G while you wait. Pure Android, not full of all that garbage Samsung puts on their phones.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
You know, when Apple released the iPhone with its restrictive "No bloatware carrier apps allowed! iPhone must be iPhone period!" stance, I thought "Apple just saved the cell phone! No more shitty UI and confusing app selections." Then Google came along, released Android and said "It's free and open and you can do whatever you want with it!" and basically took cell phones back to what Apple freed them from. They should have made rules for Android. The same rules Apple made. Does Google not have the same pull that Steve had? I guess even Google couldn't restrict the phone makers from putting their own apps on the phone. Shame really.
Is it Wednesday yet? I really really can't wait to see what the 6S/+ brings.
Wow that's crazy... especially considering that the Exynos 7420 is still by that the most powerful mobile CPU right now. You should look into this more. Try doing a factory reset and then disabling as many Verizon apps as you can. I know the LG G3 was not supposed to a slow phone, but for some reason my sisters was and think was either defective or Verizon's bloatware was exasperating some underlying issue with the software. It was very unusual.
I'm using a WiFi only Tab S2 right now on Android 5.1.1 and it's very fast, a beast in multiwindow, and it's only using the Exynos 5433, which is probably 20% slower.
Android is open source.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Don't they still have to license Android from Google in order to sell their device? One of the licensing terms can be "No bloatware"
A license is needed for Google Mobile Services but Android itself is open source.
Zeyphersan
Banned
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Which may be its curse really.
There will never truly be a single "Android experience" as long as the cell phone makers and the carriers get to control how it works. The best you can get is like was said, find one that doesn't pile a clunky new UI or something on top of it. And hopefully one that also doesn't load it up with a lot of carrier apps. I remember my last Android. They filled up my free on-device storage with a bunch of shitty no-name social apps in the hopes I would use them. I never did. And I couldn't remove them. (Don't even think about suggesting to root the phone. I looked it up. Not only were all the utilities broken links but the steps were horrible. I don't even like Jailbreaking my iPhone and that's a 1-click process these days.) And because of how Android worked at the time, I couldn't have more than a handful of apps on my phone at any one time because most of the apps from the Play store required installing directly on the phone. 90% of them wouldn't work on an SD card. It was really a bad experience for me and made me miss, and usually opt to just use my iPod touch when I wanted to actually do something. It basically became a texting machine with occasional calling and very slow internet when I didn't feel like connecting my iPod to WiFi. Sorry, this is just a rant about my experience and I know it's not a typical Android experience. Needless to say of course, it wasn't a flagship Android and you get what you pay for. But it was still my first smartphone.
This thread isn't for this though. So let's not start an OS war 2 days before New iPhone Day. Hehehe.
They do in Germany but I think I'm gonna wait anyway.
I realise Android isn't ideal, but I'm not a fan of the 'take it or leave it' approach to UI that apple offers. It just feels so simplistic. IMO iOS needs a huge overhaul of how the primary home screens work, and how they present information to people - whether that be better notifications, widgets, or something else.
Air 2 is still beastly though. My mom needs to replace her iPad 2 and I think we'd like to get her this as a replacement, but I hate the fact that the 64 GB will still be expensive, even with a pricecut. Or maybe just have her move to the 6+ devices so that she doesn't even need iPads anymore if she likes that compromise.
Far more good than bad comes of Android being open source.
In the US (and Canada?) this is an issue, where your carriers have way too much sway. At least in Europe this isn't an issue. Either way you have a choice; if you don't want carrier bloat then buy your phone outright instead of being shackled by a rip-off contract and if you don't like Android skins buy a Nexus or a Motorola.
Blame the OEMs who give in to the carriers but don't blame Android. An informed consumer has choice here.
Jobs was clever in his approach. Apple keeping control of the hardware and software was a key part of the exclusive contract with AT&T and a few years later once it was a huge success and the contract expired Apple could dictate whatever terms they wanted to all the carriers because none of them wanted to miss out.
Simply Sami
Member
Why are people convinced Air 3 will not show up?
iPad Pro is aimed at a different market to the ones that prefer a normal IPad. I expect Air 3 to show up with most likely force touch being the only new feature.
iPad Pro is aimed at a different market to the ones that prefer a normal IPad. I expect Air 3 to show up with most likely force touch being the only new feature.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Oh, I agree. And I feel Apple is moving towards this at their own pace (Remember they usually fight something tooth and nail until they finally do it "their own way" but eventually it happens.) but sometimes I just want more customizability. But I don't want to Jailbreak because I also prefer to be up to date.
previously reliable sources at 9to5mac.com
if they end up being wrong this year, then so be it. But they have had a good track record in the past.
Simply Sami
Member
http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/14/no-ipad-air-3-2015/
That's just all guesswork based off a dodgy report.
Because of rumors from reliable sources combined with the fact that the Air 2 is all anyone would ever need still, even running the latest version of IOS.
Zeyphersan
Banned
If nothing else they could make an Air 3 that's basically just an Air 2 repackaged, much like the Mini 2 to Mini 3
Helps keep the normal iPad in mindshare
Helps keep the normal iPad in mindshare
Simply Sami
Member
in this story, Gurman says
"A third version of the iPad Air is also in the works, but sources confirm that it won’t be released until 2016. “
it’s not 100% clear if he means his own sources or if he’s referring to the two analysis firms. I had previously thought he meant his own, reliable sources, but that may have been a bad interpretation on my side.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/02/ipad-pro-sep-9-ipad-mini-4-november/
hmm
"A third version of the iPad Air is also in the works, but sources confirm that it won’t be released until 2016. “
it’s not 100% clear if he means his own sources or if he’s referring to the two analysis firms. I had previously thought he meant his own, reliable sources, but that may have been a bad interpretation on my side.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/02/ipad-pro-sep-9-ipad-mini-4-november/
hmm
minor effort
Banned
I love my iPad Mini, but I'm having a lot of trouble imagining the "Pro" in an iPad Pro. A bigger screen and stylus support are good things, but if iOS remains as walled off as it is, using it for real work will still be limited.
I can't imagine a professional device that doesn't let you directly access a filesystem. And iCloud Drive doesn't count.
I can't imagine a professional device that doesn't let you directly access a filesystem. And iCloud Drive doesn't count.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Yeah, which is why I have trouble believing the iPad Pro would come now. First off, iOS isn't ready for it. So an iPad Pro would just be a bigger iPad with no features that make it Pro. And second, they won't be putting OS X on it because it just isn't going to happen. In order for us to get an iPad Pro they'd need to show off some features in iOS that would make it Pro. They'd have to be hiding some features in iOS that we haven't seen yet. I mean what would people actually want from an iPad Pro?
Good luck selling a high end Android smartphone without the Google Play Store.
infiniteloop
Member
minor effort
Banned
Exactly. I do like iOS, but it has way too many deliberate restrictions to use as a primary computing device, much less a work device. That probably isn't a terribly controversial statement. iOS is opening up, but in small, controlled amounts. But as iOS9 currently exists now, an iPad Pro would need to offer something different from stock iPad iOS to really be interesting. An iPad Pro that's just a bigger iPad with Force Touch (which will work it's way down through the rest of the iOS line anyways) would be pretty disappointing.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Apple Music is such a fucking RAM hog. If you have something playing it'll force even one Safari tab to reload
Understandable. I'm interested to see what iOS 10 brings. That's a pretty big landmark number, so maybe they'll go all out on a change. Could be interesting.
Zeyphersan
Banned
It'll probably be called iOS X, and be something pretty big. I hope they keep the aesthetic look they have going, but an upgrade to Springboard (the home screen and app launcher) would be pretty great
infiniteloop
Member
iOS X
jimbobsmells
Member
Out of interest, what use case do you have for a mouse over a stylus / your fingers?
They do just that in China. Amazon's devices don't either. It's possible to install the Play Store and other GMS components by the user even if the device doesn't come with them.
Google Mobile Services is licensed to OEMs, what they do after that in their negotiations with carriers has nothing to do with Google.
It's an ergonomic thing, tablet keyboards are garbage because you keep going back and forth between typing and awkwardly tapping. The track pad on the Surface solves some of that by allowing you a pointer device without having to reposition your hands.
iPad Pro really sounds like a Surface. Also like the Surface to get the full experience will probably cost an arm and leg, I'd expect this thing to start in the $750+ range, $100 for the keyboard case and $50 for the stylus.
There's a whole world outside of China.
Amazon haven't had spectacular success in the smartphone business.
Hardly anybody is going to go to the effort of installing the Play Store manually.
Google can make agreements with OEMs that forbid them from acquiescing to carriers on phones that contain Google software.
If possible they definitely should. OEMs are not however in a position of strength in the US when it comes to negotiations with carriers.
In the meantime consumers should do their research before signing a contract for a carrier bloat infested piece of crap Samsung phone that will run several hundred dollars over the next 2 years. Or just say screw it and get an iPhone.
More like that Surface RT market.
Zeyphersan
Banned
seventynine
Member
Intrigued about the iPad Pro, my old iPad 2 is getting tired now and really needs replacing.
Has there been anything to suggest that iPad Pro will be more useful than previous iPads for illustration and other creative tasks?
Has there been anything to suggest that iPad Pro will be more useful than previous iPads for illustration and other creative tasks?
If possible they definitely should. OEMs are not however in a position of strength in the US when it comes to negotiations with carriers.
In the meantime consumers should do their research before signing a contract for a carrier bloat infested piece of crap Samsung phone that will run several hundred dollars over the next 2 years. Or just say screw it and get an iPhone.
If OEMs were all forced to negotiate with carriers on the same terms, the carriers would have to give in. Unless AT&T want to start making their own phones.
Agree that people should just buy iPhones
Yes, it's been heavily rumoured (by Mark Gurman, who is great with these things) that the Pro will come with a stylus and have Wacom-style stylus functionality.
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll
- Poll