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How long did it take to sell yours?

About 3 weeks, longer than I expected it to take. Had to refresh my posting a few times. I first tried to sell it at $650 with no bites, then I lowered it to $600 and got a few people lowballing me at $550. I was lucky to get one guy that agreed to pay the $600 asking price.
 
Also to the people that have 3G iPads, was it worth it? Do you wish you would have just bought the wifi model?

Owned 3G models of both iPads. I think their usefulness is very much situational.

a. Do you need or want to use your iPad in places where wifi is inconvenient or nonexistent?
b. Do you mind the $15/month
c. How often do you need the 3G access?

At first, I found it tremendously useful. My job at the time did not have an employee-accessible wireless network, so the iPad 3G gave me a great way to seperate core work from browsing/email/research. It's really damn convenient to just go sit in reception or the lounge or the coffee shop down the street and browse the web with no worries about wifi passwords, signal strength, passthroughs and so on.

Now though, I can't justify paying for 3G access.
1. Rogers gives free iPhone tethering on certain plans
2. I work at a business with employee wifi
3. Most of my breaktime requires a Macbook, not an iPad

So basically, it was very useful for me but I don't think I ever reached the amount of value needed to add that feature to the iPad in the first place. With iPad 3 it's very likely I will go wifi only and just put the money towards storage instead.
 
Also to the people that have 3G iPads, was it worth it? Do you wish you would have just bought the wifi model?

3G was an absolute must for me. No regrets at all about shelling out extra for it and I couldn't imagine buying a wi-fi only model.

This will of course be different for diferent people. However, for me it was perfect as I used the iPad a lot on the road, abroad, on holiday, on the train, in restaurants, airports, and just about anywhere I would need information. A lot of these places either had no wi-fi at all or charged for it.
 
Owned 3G models of both iPads. I think their usefulness is very much situational.

a. Do you need or want to use your iPad in places where wifi is inconvenient or nonexistent?
b. Do you mind the $15/month
c. How often do you need the 3G access?

At first, I found it tremendously useful. My job at the time did not have an employee-accessible wireless network, so the iPad 3G gave me a great way to seperate core work from browsing/email/research. It's really damn convenient to just go sit in reception or the lounge or the coffee shop down the street and browse the web with no worries about wifi passwords, signal strength, passthroughs and so on.

Now though, I can't justify paying for 3G access.
1. Rogers gives free iPhone tethering on certain plans
2. I work at a business with employee wifi
3. Most of my breaktime requires a Macbook, not an iPad

So basically, it was very useful for me but I don't think I ever reached the amount of value needed to add that feature to the iPad in the first place. With iPad 3 it's very likely I will go wifi only and just put the money towards storage instead.

If the iPad 3 has LTE would that affect your decision?

By the way, for the OP, other cons include (1) iPad 3G is heavier that iPad WiFi (2) iPad 3G has that ugly black strip on the casing.

I went WiFi on the first generation, 3G for a bit during the 2nd generation and will likely go 3G for the third generation
 
The need for 3G will vary widely for each person. I certainly don't need it but it's a great option to have for those on the road a lot.

What I'd like to see, but I don't know if there's enough pressure for Apple to do it, is a price reduction on the 3G model. Reduce the extra charge from 130 to 100 or 80. that would be nice. but I don't think we'll see it this year; maybe in one or two.
 
I thought about it but I really can't think of any place I'd use it where I don't have wi-fi. Rather use that extra $100 to move up from 32 gb to 64 gb so I will actually have room to keep some movies stored on iPad 3. Man I wish Apple would move up to 128 GB but I don't expect that before iPad 4.
 
If the iPad 3 has LTE would that affect your decision?

Not at all. LTE might be faster but since the iPad is a casual-use platform there's nothing to really "do" with that bandwidth. I mean, this is why the 200MB plan is really the only option, because unless you're routinely hammering youtube and streaming TV shows it's hard to use a lot of bandwidth. (And even if you are, you're probably using most of that bandwidth at home, in range of your wireless network, right?)

If latency improves I suppose that would be a plus but for general use 3G is pretty good. (I suppose if Apple lifts some of the download limitations over LTE that could introduce some new convenience factors)

By the way, for the OP, other cons include (1) iPad 3G is heavier that iPad WiFi (2) iPad 3G has that ugly black strip on the casing.

Personally I didn't find the strip ugly - it's molded well into the case so it really just offers another way to tell which direction you're holding the system. And with iPad 2, the weight difference is 12 grams, or basically 2%. So I don't think that should be a factor at all.

LCfiner said:
The need for 3G will vary widely for each person. I certainly don't need it but it's a great option to have for those on the road a lot.

Yeah, if you're on the road it could have extra value. But that again is really quite special-case; you need to be in range of a 3G network and as far as I've seen there are no roaming plans so you're SOL internationally. I think the best travel case for it remains within-city. (ie: Say you worked in a place like the greater Chicago area; that's a lot of ground to cover within your coverage zone, whereas it would be far less useful if you commute through coverage gaps all the time.)
 
I thought about it but I really can't think of any place I'd use it where I don't have wi-fi. Rather use that extra $100 to move up from 32 gb to 64 gb so I will actually have room to keep some movies stored on iPad 3. Man I wish Apple would move up to 128 GB but I don't expect that before iPad 4.
It might not even happen then, with the move towards streaming everything, cloud storage, etc.
 
It is NOT hard to read a book on the iPad, currently. Might not be super pretty, and might be annoying to stare at for too long, but it's not hard.

I also own a Kindle, and prefer to read on it. But I've read plenty of books on the iPad over the last year or so. That said, bring on the retina.

anti-glare would help a lot.

suggestion for accessory makers - flip down anti-glare covering that anchors the same way as the smart cover. So I can leave it off for normal browsing, but flip it across for reading to reduce fatigue.

If reading was a lot better on ipad 3 (not convinced retina will help, I think backlight + glossy is a bigger issue), then that would save me buying a 2nd kindle
 
anti-glare would help a lot.

suggestion for accessory makers - flip down anti-glare covering that anchors the same way as the smart cover. So I can leave it off for normal browsing, but flip it across for reading to reduce fatigue.

If reading was a lot better on ipad 3 (not convinced retina will help, I think backlight + glossy is a bigger issue), then that would save me buying a 2nd kindle

If its anything like iPhone it will help a lot. It's really easy to read my kindle books on iPhone when I don't have my kindle, it's actually pretty enjoyable other than its way too tiny. Retina iPad should hopefully fix that issue being large enough of a screen for reading.
 

Nice, it seems that the battle for high-resolution displays will be out in full force this year.

ASUS has their chips on the table, Samsung is ready for battle, and Apple is ready to dominate again.

As for me, I am happy with my iPad 2 and I will wait a couple of gens before jumping back in with a new piece of hardware.
 


since any ipad high res screen will be 2X the current resolution, that 25 x 16 samsung display will have more pixels than the new ipad. not much to be done about that

it’ll also have better blacks since it’s OLED. And even though it’s pentile, I figure the crazy high resolution will offset the deficiencies of that screen tech. should look pretty amazing.

But I would expect the ipad’s screen to hit the market first and they’ll have a couple months as the only 2X res tablet out there.
 
Will an increase in resolution lead to an arms race in pixel counts?

For example, 250-300 dpi will be standard for at least 2 years, then will it jump to 500-600 dpi after that?
 
Who cares, I'm just glad more people will be able to get devices with high res screens. No one should suffer from low DPI cancer.
I care, because I want Apple to get on that 2560x1600 goodness. Otherwise I'm going to have to buy a different tablet, and all my iOS app purchases will be rather wasted.
 
Does anyone have a case/smart cover companion that is good for large headphone plugs? My pair has a really bulky cable and the headphones won't plug in to the current case.
 
Apple has the chips and the screens ready, Samsung only has the screens ready.

Samsung's waiting for Apple to approve their design.

I care, because I want Apple to get on that 2560x1600 goodness. Otherwise I'm going to have to buy a different tablet, and all my iOS app purchases will be rather wasted.

Not that I want to get that "4:3 superior to 16:x on tablets" debate going again (btw, it's true), but I highly doubt that Apple will switch to 16:10 (for obvious reasons).
 
Not that I want to get that "4:3 superior to 16:x on tablets" debate going again (btw, it's true), but I highly doubt that Apple will switch to 16:10 (for obvious reasons).
That's certainly true, but I thinking in terms of pixels, Samsungs would be almost a million pixels better off.

Apple should go for something like 2400x1800 to compete. And no, I don't care that it doesn't scale very well. Re-write the apps dammit! What am I paying you for?
 
That's certainly true, but I thinking in terms of pixels, Samsungs would be almost a million pixels better off.

Apple should go for something like 2400x1800 to compete. And no, I don't care that it doesn't scale very well. Re-write the apps dammit! What am I paying you for?

well, part of what we’re paying for is a device with an ecosystem that developers like writing apps for.

a 2X res bump helps support that environment. those are the decisions that you’re paying Apple to make. may sound trite but it’s true. a non-2X jump in pixels would make things worse for the app developers (and Apple developers). And I’m not convinced those extra pixels would make much of a different once you’re above 260 ppi at that size.

I mean, you’re totally justified to want to get a samsung tablet if you want more pixels. They may even try to use that as a sales point when comparing specs. But I doubt the Apple display will be at any competitive disadvantage to the Samsung display based on pixels. black level might be more noticeable than the pixel difference between the two screens, to be honest
 
That's certainly true, but I thinking in terms of pixels, Samsungs would be almost a million pixels better off.

Apple should go for something like 2400x1800 to compete. And no, I don't care that it doesn't scale very well. Re-write the apps dammit! What am I paying you for?

The reason Android is such a mess on tablets and is severely lacking in optimized apps is ideas like that. Even simple stuff like Twitter look off on most Android tablets due to the lack of a standard screen size.
 
The reason Android is such a mess on tablets and is severely lacking in optimized apps is ideas like that. Even simple stuff like Twitter look off on most Android tablets due to the lack of a standard screen size.
As someone who writes iOS apps and gets to sit back and watch the BlackBerry, Windows Phone, and Android devs squirm, let me just say that I like knowing exactly what size my artwork needs to be, thanks.
 
well, part of what we’re paying for is a device with an ecosystem that developers like writing apps for.

a 2X res bump helps support that environment. those are the decisions that you’re paying Apple to make. may sound trite but it’s true. a non-2X jump in pixels would make things worse for the app developers (and Apple developers). And I’m not convinced those extra pixels would make much of a different once you’re above 260 ppi at that size.

I mean, you’re totally justified to want to get a samsung tablet if you want more pixels. They may even try to use that as a sales point when comparing specs. But I doubt the Apple display will be at any competitive disadvantage to the Samsung display based on pixels. black level might be more noticeable than the pixel difference between the two screens, to be honest
Well you're just far too logical! :D *grumbles*

But wait... you're saying the Samsung panel is gonna have better black levels too? :(
 
since any ipad high res screen will be 2X the current resolution, that 25 x 16 samsung display will have more pixels than the new ipad. not much to be done about that

it’ll also have better blacks since it’s OLED. And even though it’s pentile, I figure the crazy high resolution will offset the deficiencies of that screen tech. should look pretty amazing.

But I would expect the ipad’s screen to hit the market first and they’ll have a couple months as the only 2X res tablet out there.
It's LCD.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...Nouvoyance-Demonstrate-10.1-inch-300dpi-WQXGA
 
if the Samsung tablet has better resolution, more ppi, bigger screen and 16:9..than why are you guys so set on buying the iPad 3. I can't comprehend the apple culture of liking devices with worse specs and higher prices..
 
if the Samsung tablet has better resolution, more ppi, bigger screen and 16:9..than why are you guys so set on buying the iPad 3. I can't comprehend the apple culture of liking devices with worse specs and higher prices..
Software? Some prefer 4:3?

We don't even know what the hardware or price of the iPad 3 or this supposed Samsung tablet. I can't comprehend this culture of comparing devices that don't exist.
 
if the Samsung tablet has better resolution, more ppi, bigger screen and 16:9..than why are you guys so set on buying the iPad 3. I can't comprehend the apple culture of liking devices with worse specs and higher prices..

No matter how hard you try, you'll never be as good as copernicus. You need to be more subtle and put a bit more humor into your posts.
 

lol, well scratch that black level comment. I thought only OLEDs used pentile. I didn’t know LCDs also used that arrangement occasionally.

so the display will have more pixels but, as we’ve seen before, pentile pixels aren’t the same as full RGB array pixels.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Apple display (I’m assuming they’re not gonna touch pentile with a ten foot pole) will look better than this Samsung display under a microscope. But they may look virtually identical at reading distances.
 
Software? Some prefer 4:3?

We don't even know what the hardware or price of the iPad 3 or this supposed Samsung tablet. I can't comprehend this culture of comparing devices that don't exist.

why would anyone like 4:3? that's so foreign to me..widescreen is the future yet you guys want to stick with a square aspect ratio.

also these products may not have been announced yet but we all know the Samsung is going to have better specs..
 
why would anyone like 4:3? that's so foreign to me..widescreen is the future yet you guys want to stick with a square aspect ratio.

also these products may not have been announced yet but we all know the Samsung is going to have better specs..
Let's be honest. You're into incest aren't you.
 
why would anyone like 4:3? that's so foreign to me..widescreen is the future yet you guys want to stick with a square aspect ratio.
Hate to rehash but sure, widescreen's great if all you do is watch movies. If you use the device to read, though, it's awkward as hell. Few books or magazines or comics are shaped like that, the world hasn't switched to primarily using legal sized paper, etc.
 
why would anyone like 4:3? that's so foreign to me..widescreen is the future yet you guys want to stick with a square aspect ratio.

also these products may not have been announced yet but we all know the Samsung is going to have better specs..

Maybe better specs but far less dev support than iPad 3
 
Hate to rehash but sure, widescreen's great if all you do is watch movies. If you use the device to read, though, it's awkward as hell. Few books or magazines or comics are shaped like that.

Some kids books are shaped like that. Fits the playful Android demographic, I guess.

I hate how I'm not taken seriously because I'm a junior. =\

That has nothing to do with your status. You just suck. But don't worry, giga started out like that and look what he's become now.
 
I hate how I'm not taken seriously because I'm a junior. =\

You aren't taken seriously because most of the people on here who have actually used tablets prefer 4:3 for reading, web pages, and usability. I think if you are actually interested in using your tablet for movies then sure you may want something else.
 
Hate to rehash but sure, widescreen's great if all you do is watch movies. If you use the device to read, though, it's awkward as hell. Few books or magazines or comics are shaped like that, the world hasn't switched to primarily using legal sized paper, etc.

Er, comics are shaped like that. The dominant format of american comics are closer to 16:9 than 4:3.

Books I might have conceded before. But you can always read with the tablet in landscape. Landscape layout is actually the main mode from Apple's new iBooks format. Some people actually like that two page spread thing too.

Magazines apps are all custom interfaces anyway so saying one screen is better than the other is a bit nonsensical imo. I think magazines will look great on the bigger screen with more pixels but that's just me.
 
Yeah, the last thing I want is an 11.6" PenTile Android tablet.

LCfiner said:
And I’m not convinced those extra pixels would make much of a different once you’re above 260 ppi at that size.
You can never get enough PPI.
 
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