Dude, probably since the 3G, that's exactly what the iPhone has always been.
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Dude, probably since the 3G, that's exactly what the iPhone has always been.
I've had the phone since the first Iphone, where I paid $500 US for it. Thing is the year my contract ends is the year that Apple does not do a major design revision on the Iphone. Really a sad deal for Iphone early adopters.
BocoDragon
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When was the iPhone, or Apple in general, for geeks or nerds? It's always been for artistic hipsters or soccer moms.
Android is the domain of geeks. iPhone is where they play some populist music that your dad likes while they tell you how touchy feely you should feel.
The tone of their message is rote at this point... They've been doing it for so long. No idea why you sense a change now.
BocoDragon
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At least since the iPod era, anyway. Silhouettes were dancing with ipods playing Black Eyed Peas or whatever a decade ago.I guess I've been in denial since the beginning then
This is what iPhone users think of the iPhone.
I use Android and iPhone...
The hate everywhere is fucking ridiculous.
OMG no innovation!! Android is so much better!! Apple is dead!!!
What do you actually want on the phone? Dead serious question.
A bigger screen? Ok
High resolution? Ok
What else? What amazing feature does Android have that Apple doesn't? I'm seriously curious to have the hate explained. Why would I go with Android over iPhone?
OMG no innovation!! Android is so much better!! Apple is dead!!!
What do you actually want on the phone? Dead serious question.
A bigger screen? Ok
High resolution? Ok
What else? What amazing feature does Android have that Apple doesn't? I'm seriously curious to have the hate explained. Why would I go with Android over iPhone?
Opus Angelorum
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Widgets? Better camera?
*edit* I thought of some more
Better notifications (reply to etc), change default apps and NFC. Better customisation, can load any app you want with less strict app ecosystem.
I'm an iPhone user, but considering switching when I see what the Nexus 5 has in store.
I'm an iPhone user, have been since I started using smartphones with little desire to change ecosystems anytime soon.
That said, I'd really like them to incorporate NFC at some point, hopefully with the 6. NFC is pretty useful for transit cards/credit cards etc.
Jill Sandwich
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Apple announcement threads are so depressing these days
Widgets, better multitasking, being able to set default apps, customization in general, lots of things really. Just like there are reasons to go with iPhone over Android. Or Windows Phone over either of them.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I don't even think you're wrong. Apple is terribly cheesy and populist. I just think it's been like this for a long time. It feels identical to the press conference for my phone, the 4S, two years ago.Not trying to start a troll war between fanboys, just wanted to give my impressions of this Keynote and Apple generally with the release of the 5S. There's no hate or anything, just disappointment that's all
Jill Sandwich
the turds of Optimus Prime
I usually don't bother with S years, but that camera and Touch ID is swaying me. Maybe a Christmas treat for myself.
The the tin-foil-hay-guy in me really isn't digging the fingerprint idea. Well, it's cool in theory, but dat NSA, man.
On the software-side on the other hand, Android seems to have been faster to address issues than Apple.
I sometimes wonder if the people that think there is no innovation in Apple's new releases are the same people that are content with, say, Samsungs new releases. Sure, NFC is lacking in iPhones, but other than that the smartphone industry as a whole isn't very innovative. Usually we see spec bumps in new releases, and that's it.
On the software-side on the other hand, Android seems to have been faster to address issues than Apple.
This relates to software, not really the 5S as such. Better multitasking seems to have been addressed with iOS7 and setting default apps really isn't useful for a system that doesn't have a real filesystem (this being a cause for real concern). Lack of customization (and widgets) is unfortunate.
Thanks for the replies.
I agree with the OS being more open and customisable but for me, none of those features are really tempting. The best thing android phones have going for them are the big screens in my opinion.
I agree with JNT in that there's very little innovation anywhere. Spec bumps are all we get 99% of the time. Sometimes we get a random thing like touchless controls in the Moto X and a fingerprint scanner in the 5S but other than that, there's no innovation.
The hate is completely unnecessary in pretty much every way. I used to think the console wars were bad but the phone wars are in another league. So much bullshit everywhere....
I agree with the OS being more open and customisable but for me, none of those features are really tempting. The best thing android phones have going for them are the big screens in my opinion.
I agree with JNT in that there's very little innovation anywhere. Spec bumps are all we get 99% of the time. Sometimes we get a random thing like touchless controls in the Moto X and a fingerprint scanner in the 5S but other than that, there's no innovation.
The hate is completely unnecessary in pretty much every way. I used to think the console wars were bad but the phone wars are in another league. So much bullshit everywhere....
Barbacoatl
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According to Apple.
According to the US there was no government organization spying on internet users a few months ago either.
BocoDragon
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I share your skepticism
But I feel like if they make that claim publically, there are tech gurus who can go through the device and verify it. Once that scanner has access to apps and internet - who knows - but if it really doesn't, then I believe them that the NSA probably has no access to it.There is NO SINGLE PHONE that is perfect for everybody. Arguing otherwise is pretty fucking stupid.
BocoDragon
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I don't feel like tinfoil hat is a reasonable reference, in light of recent revelations.
The NSA most likely knows what porn you like. That is a probable fact.
So y'know... vigilance about privacy and security is a good thing in this day and age. I don't blame the skeptics... and I only feel good about the iPhone 5S fingerprint scanner because they have promised me (in a way that can be challenged) it can't have app/net connectivity.
Kiraly
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VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
The response is nowhere near as good as the original article. It basically amounts to "I don't like or trust Google". Like something a fanboy who doesn't want to even try the alternative would say.
I don't use either ios or android, so I have no dog in this fight. I think the best phone for every person is different. There is no perfect phone with every feature and the best everything. I'm glad Apple is making flagship phones that aren't huge. I'm glad Google is making affordable nexus devices that you can customize infinitely. I'm glad Nokia is desperate enough to create a 41mp smartphone that allows me to take beautiful pictures of my kids and life with the only device I carry around everywhere.
Gotta agree.
The article is pretty terrible. He could have easily talked about how iOS trumps Android but instead he tells us that Google is evil.
The apps on the iPhone are the biggest thing holding me from Android. That and the fact that iCloud backups are mad easy when buying new devices and the OS is always speed and lag free.
Well, i feel that you need to be vigilant where it's appropriate. There are more pressing areas in the tech world, even within Apple when it comes to user data.
Snkfanatic
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No preoders seems really silly to me. Oh well I wasn't going in day 1 anyways, I will get one later this year.
lol?
Opus Angelorum
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The answer is rather vague, instead of offering what iOS can do better he pretty much says 'I don't trust Google'.
This, although I disagree about the App situation.
ringwaldhaze
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http://owened.co.nz/android-is-better-not-if-you-look-deeper
Another response to the Stamatiou post that covers more ground.
Another response to the Stamatiou post that covers more ground.
Would have broke my contract if it had a larger screen and paid full retail for it. Seriously, every single person I have talked to that ditched iPhone for another did it SOLELY for the screen size. Does Apple realize how much market share it could have retained if it simply listened to the demand of a larger screen? No one I know bought an S3/S4/Note II based on the gimmicks Samsung advertises. It was 110% the larger screen.
yuck. The gold iPhone 5s looks pretentious and tacky enough as it is.
biggersmaller
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Their custom-from-the-ground-up manufacturing infrastructure was truly revolutionary... a massive investment gamble that requires premium prices to truly pay-off.
More importantly...they just can in the current subscription service model. Best thing people can do to drop prices is to not buy the thing.
POWERSPHERE
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If you're going to sell your soul, do it like Liberace I say.
I am an android user and I think the android app store is pretty sad.
This is what iPhone users think of the iPhone.
No, he's right. with the volume of units phone manufacturers move and the kind of marketshare numbers we see the idea that 'geeks' are only in one platform has always been ridiculous and something that fanboys tell themselves.
I'm on a 3Gs a well. On the latest iOS version. And 16GB of space. It still does the job, but it is starting to show cracks now. I'll probably be upgrading to the 5s.
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