It costs an absurdly low amount of money to make the iPhone in general. So it's a massive ripoff in general.
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It costs an absurdly low amount of money to make the iPhone in general. So it's a massive ripoff in general.
grap3fruitman
Banned
Not sure about the current phones but back when the 4S was brand new, I had access to the invoices for them. The 16gig cost Apple like $270, 32 was $30x and the 64 was somewhere like 330 to 350. Can't recall the exact numbers now since it's been awhile but those look right. I'm not sure why you people think these things cost pennies to make.
Mister Negative
Member
Awesome, you even gave me some data. Thanks!
secretanchitman
Member
Agreed with both of you. I really wanted a 128GB model (had a 64GB 4S before) but it seems like most people still go for 16GB and 32GB with hardly anyone getting 64GB.
Space Grey 5S 64GB on Sprint here I come.
Turbowaffles
Member
So any of y'all gonna case up and screen protect your 5S?
I need recommendations on clear cases. Any particular brand you like?
I need recommendations on clear cases. Any particular brand you like?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Case yes.
Screen protector no.
I know from experience with using screen protector it and not using one.. That screen doesn't scratch much unless it is in a dangerous situation (avoid keys if possible - but even still it's probably fine). And the oleophobic coating is part of the joy of the phone. It's so nice when it doesn't get greasy, and wipes clean with just a swab of your t-shirt.
FUCK ALL DAT NOISE SON!!!!!
I dropped my naked 4S on the concrete and hard floor 3 times and I didn't get a single scratch on the touchscreen and maybe a few super light scratches on the back and a tiny bit of scuffing on the sides. My shit's beautiful.
A few questions about upgrading and preordering.
1. My power button went out on my iPhone 5 so I sent it to apple and within a week or so I'll get a replacement, its a 32gb verizon black. I want to sell it to buy the 5s, how much do you think I should be able to get?
2. How does preordering from Apple.com work? I have class and work on Friday until about 3 so I doubt that I would be able to go to a Verizon store and get one. Can I fill out a form beforehand and just hit submit? Or is it a rush to get the form filled out first? Also what time will they go live, if I live in CSD time zone?
3. Can I use my iPhone 5 case? They are the same dimensions right?
Thanks!
1. My power button went out on my iPhone 5 so I sent it to apple and within a week or so I'll get a replacement, its a 32gb verizon black. I want to sell it to buy the 5s, how much do you think I should be able to get?
2. How does preordering from Apple.com work? I have class and work on Friday until about 3 so I doubt that I would be able to go to a Verizon store and get one. Can I fill out a form beforehand and just hit submit? Or is it a rush to get the form filled out first? Also what time will they go live, if I live in CSD time zone?
3. Can I use my iPhone 5 case? They are the same dimensions right?
Thanks!
gimmmick
Member
Going to my local verizon store on friday and hopefully will be able to pick up a 32gig gold iphone 5s. I'm hoping that I'll be able to get one without hassle at whatever time they open up.
I find it odd the biggest apple fanboys of them all (theverge) doesn't have their review up.
I find it odd the biggest apple fanboys of them all (theverge) doesn't have their review up.
Inventing new superlatives.
killertofu
Member
Must resist upgrading from my iPhone 4S. must wait until next year....
Dear god I hope they give more screen sizes
Dear god I hope they give more screen sizes
NeoGeoOwner
Banned
Next fall will be here soon as you know it. You could give in to your cravings now or wait for a full redesign for next year. Up to you. Either go with the 5S or next years model is still a upgrade for you. 4S is still a nice model regardless. But I'm sure you want to upgrade
killertofu
Member
Waiting a whole year for disappointment.
Give in!
Next fall will be here soon as you know it. You could give in to your cravings now or wait for a full redesign for next year. Up to you. Either go with the 5S or next years model is still a upgrade for you. 4S is still a nice model regardless. But I'm sure you want to upgrade
I'm pretty satisfied with the speed of the 4S...
The only things bugging me is that my screen is cracked, my home button has been pretty stiff and hard to press and lack of LTE. I don't really see the 5S' screen to be an upgrade
Maaaaan. Damn tech lust.
iOS7 is going to have the "slow down pre-iPhone5 devices" bit set.
Join us!
MY upgrade cycle, if Ic an afford it, will more likely be when my phone no longer runs latest OS.
I've heard this statement before when Apple introduced their previous A series chips. Not the case when they can always introduce a more powerful chip the following year and a software update that would make the previous entries obsolete.
Just get the 4S swapped out with new one at the Apple Store for $150 then.
Erebus
Member
How's that any different than what the other Android-powered smartphone manufacturers are doing? Hell, Sony is releasing Z1 soon and the current Z was released what? 6 months ago?
Also, iOS 7 is supported by even the iPhone 4.
I can do slim cases but screen protectors are a no go.
I paid for a premium product. I want to protect it but I also want to full experience it and use it to it's full potential. Having a screen protector messes up the screen.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
And a lot of people are still happy with their iPhone 4's, crazy enough, so for the non-technophiles like us, I think that statement might be true.
My iPhone 4 is still perfectly fine. Battery hasn't degraded noticeably, screen is without any blemish (thanks to me and my front covering cases), home button works. For web browsing and messaging it works great. Non-intensive games run well. Some apps like Facebook are slow though. It's not an obsolete piece of crap by any stretch.
I don't need to upgrade, I just want to because I'm a materialist, marketing-driven asshole like the rest of you.
I'm seriously considering holding it out for another year to see if the iPhone 6 comes out with a bigger screen (which it almost certainly will).
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
bit disappointed with the battery tests in the Anand review.
I agree. I got my 4S last year and I'm not going to make the jump to iOS 7.
I noticed that upgrading previous iOS devices to the next revision slows down the hardware. This eventually forces your hand to upgrade your device. No thanks.
If I had a 5 I would do it though.
LostInNoise
Member
Making the jump from the 4s to the 5s myself. Don't really want to live on the Apple ecosystem anymore but the only Android phone I would want (Sony Xperia Z1) doesn't appear to be coming to the US anytime soon and my 4s is going to complete crap =(.
Also going to be jumping carriers since Verizon no longer offers Unlimited data and they're basically forcing me off of my Unlimited 3G plan....
I live in the Dallas area. Anyone have any good things to say about T-Mobile?
Also going to be jumping carriers since Verizon no longer offers Unlimited data and they're basically forcing me off of my Unlimited 3G plan....
I live in the Dallas area. Anyone have any good things to say about T-Mobile?
sweetvar26
Member
Me too. I was hoping to see improvement in that.
Anyone with an iPhone 5 still on the fence about getting a 5S?
other people in here have been using the ios7 beta and have not noticed any speed decreases on iOS 7. And Im using it on the A5 based ipad mini and it runs A-OK
the 4s is still very capable hardware and ios7 doesnt lag on it the way, say, ios4 lagged on the old 3G.
Wasn't it stated basically the same as the 5?
CF_Fighter
Member
Yea, what I took away was that the big thing is even with the more powerful 64-bit processor and the M7 chip we're still getting that same, and even slightly increased, battery life
Maybe I'm a bit slow this morning, but how does that work?
Download the Apple Store app. Open it, go to stores and book an appointment at the Genius Bar for iPhone at your nearest store.
Once you're there they'll advise you about how to get a replacement phone.
Damn, didn't connect the dots about the dude's phone being messed up. And I imagine it's only if you have Applecare on it right?
Ken Masters
Banned
Wonder what "severe constraints" means, my dad wants to upgrade from a 4S to 5S
It's $200 not $150, if you're eligible for an upgrade. Just upgrade.
Under what context?
Oh, lol. I was reading too much into it thinking there was some secret program at Apple stores to just straight trade in your phone and get a new one for $150
Oh, lol. I was reading too much into it thinking there was some secret program at Apple stores to just straight trade in your phone and get a new one for $150
It's not a secret program. Apple has always had an out of warranty service. But for $200 it's just not worth it to replace an iPhone 4S, especially when there's a new phone available.
Ken Masters
Banned
According to macrumors the 5S supply is severely limited, 3/4 5S models are space grey but they will have 5C models up the you know what
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
"Sorry, sir, we don't have any Gold iPhone 5s left. Can I interest you in a pink iPhone 5c?"
Interesting. I'm in no immediate hurry (and I have no idea what it's going to cost at the moment) so I don't mind holding out a while.
Well, the camera on my 5 is jacked up due to a drop. It's all free from work, so I'm going to upgrade to a 5s instead of getting my 5 fixed.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the camera, I wouldn't bother. I have a feeling the iPhone 6 is going to be a very, very impressive device, and the 5 -> 5s upgrade just isn't compelling enough for me. I went from a 4s to a 5 primarily for LTE, and I was not disappointed. There is just no such upgrade this time. The 5s is really not meant for people to upgrade to from a 5, IMO, it feels like overkill.
If they had changed the flash sizing from 32 - 64 - 128 and gone to 802.11ac for the WiFi, *that* would have been at least a bit more compelling.
Here's a TL;DR of the Anandtech review of the A7:
http://timothylottes.blogspot.se/2013/09/a7.html
Gives you some perspective about how fast the A7 is in comparison to the XB360.
http://timothylottes.blogspot.se/2013/09/a7.html
Gives you some perspective about how fast the A7 is in comparison to the XB360.