Courtesy of Jal from the iOS 7 beta thread:
http://hackiphone.me/ios7betadownload
They don't have the IPSW available for all devices, but they do have the iPhone ones ready.
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Courtesy of Jal from the iOS 7 beta thread:
http://hackiphone.me/ios7betadownload
They don't have the IPSW available for all devices, but they do have the iPhone ones ready.
no, they shouldnt. devs need to check their apps against the GM and submit apps to the store in time for next week.
:lolz
Because playing the spec game is working out so well for everyone
capacitive touch sensor in there.
Solideliquid
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No preorders for the 5S is a let down. The way they are letting is preorder the C though, makes me think that'll be the hotter item. Let all those teens grab the 5C and leave that 32GB gold 5S for me hahaha.
Stormwatch
Member
How will the fingerprint sensor work with a screen protector? I see OtterBox has their Defender case coming out and it has a protector over the entire front of the phone.
Oh yea you're right I didn't even think about that.
Will this mess my phone up in anyway? If not thanks!
jts
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Then you can decide not to put the button part, if there's one. There's no way it's a whole single piece including button.
And since it's a capacitive sensor, it may even work through film, but I can't tell for sure.
Said the guy in the 5S thread.....
Maninthemirror
Banned
do I need a dev account to install this ?
Be sure to back up, and have the iOS 6 IPSW handy just in case. It should be fine, though.
Your UDID should be registered with a dev account, but you may be able to get it working without having to do so. The worst that can happen is it tells you your phone isn't authorized and nothing happens.
Stormwatch
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Marty Chinn
Member
Bleh, All Things D is saying the fingerprint scanner will not be open to third party apps for now. That kinda kills my enthusiasm about the fingerprint scanner.
Maninthemirror
Banned
of course apple wouldnt give your biometric access to anyone
I'm so pissed at the release of the 5S in the countries other than the ones that will be getting them on the 20th. What the hell Apple? Do we really have to wait till December? FFS, I'm due for a new contract since mine expired a month ago. I was waiting for the 5S thinking we'd get them at the end of the month...
Info says it checks against the ridges on your print, does sub-epidural scanning, and is capacitive. All of this indicates that it's not simply an optical pattern digitizer.
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Deleted member 17706
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Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but does anyone in the Seattle area know what the best provider in terms of cost/coverage is for 4G? I'm on the Verizon with the 4S right now, and am thinking about upgrading to this, but my contract is up next month, so if I can save a bit of money and get equal or better 4G speeds, I'd be interested in checking out a different provider.
Marty Chinn
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The first thing that people are going to do is see if they can break the security. It'll be fun to watch what the results are.
I think they are gun shy and rightfully so about allowing other apps to avoid password auth with their fingerprint sensor. It's not time tested. However, the approach they are using for storing the information is the right way to go. Essentially a biometric interface to a TPM. Hopefully the industry and consumers trust it enough for use with other apps.
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Vilix
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Can the fingerprint function be deactivated?
Technosteve
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elvis costello's suite jacket is ill fitting
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I'm gonna get the space grey with the yellow leather case.
Best of 5S and 5C.
Best of 5S and 5C.
Really really cool phone. The silver and gold ones look nice.
Not much change besides the fingerprint thingy. If not for iOS7 I'd be on it.
I feel like Google has been killing it in the OS front, and will continue to do so.
This will be a great phone though, wonder how the 6 will turn out.
Not much change besides the fingerprint thingy. If not for iOS7 I'd be on it.
I feel like Google has been killing it in the OS front, and will continue to do so.
This will be a great phone though, wonder how the 6 will turn out.
That's my aim. Was looking forward to getting it in the mail on the 20th but oh well.
lastflowers
Banned
that's really lame. Still pretty cool that they're adding the fingerprint scanner--just dejected about not having 3rd parties access it.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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All they need to let apps do is receive a simple yes/no answer from the touch app (i.e. Did the user authenticate their ID? Yes or no?) , which they really should be able to do without granting them access to anything else.
It kinda comes across as them not having all that much confidence in how the whole fingerprint system is going to pan out yet, as opposed to just Apple being Apple.
Colonel Nasty
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If I'm getting a 5s where would I preorder? From my carrier?
FamousLastX
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No pre-orders. Don't believe the carriers are doing them either.
CF_Fighter
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Processor is A7. Big thing is it's a 64-bit processor which Apple says the performance and graphics are twice as powerful as the A6. Also, the 5S has the new M7 "Motion co-processor" which is basically a processor designed to handle gyroscopic, compass, and accelerometer functions exclusively.
Personally I'm excited for this. Going to get it a 5S in "Space Grey" which will compliment my iPad and Macbook Pro nicely. Excited to have a singular OS environment in my house in terms of my real workhorse devices.
Why do they have confidence in it for processing transactions in the iTunes/App Store, then?
I think things are more complicated than you suggest. For instance, a banking app would love that info. But the Touch ID isn't necessarily connected to a specific person (you can allow other people's fingers to unlock your phone). It may be connected to a specific iTunes account, but you aren't logging into a bank app with your iTunes account.
Marty Chinn
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Because they would control everything from beginning to end. It's a much more controlled environment for Apple. I'm not saying Apple doesn't have confidence, but if they were being cautious about it, this is certainly a valid reason why.
No, but if you had either a proper method of storing credentials as part of the OS or within the app, then the fingerprint scanner would input that data for you without giving any of that data to the third party app. It's no different than how the iTunes account knows to log in with the fingerprint.
shinshoryuken
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So the smallest storage is still over 700 off contract??
Same price as allways, looks like $649 in the US.
iPhone 5S off contract prices:
16GB- $649
32GB- $749
64GB- $849
It's always been like this.
Yes, that's why we have something like iCloud Keychain coming soon. But even that simple browser-based version has been delayed and is not in the final GM build, let alone a new API for apps.
I think you agree it is not as simple as giving an app a "Yes/No" API.
Technosteve
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apple copy writers got worse?
i thought we weren't having the spec war thing Apple
i thought we weren't having the spec war thing Apple
Marty Chinn
Member
Well it depends. If they're leaving it up to the app to handle things, then yes it can be as simple as a Yes/No API.
SilentxS3ud
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Gotta admit, this gold iPhone looks sexy. But i'm sticking with my yellow 920 for now and going to wait for the storm to calm.
The app would need to be able to associate the user account and password with the "Yes" information. I can't download a Citibank app, open the app, press my fingerprint and then access my account. It needs context to know what to do with that "Yes."
Isn't having a 64 bit SoC gonna create a shit load of issues for legacy devices? Sure, 5S can run 32 bit apps just fine, but what about the 5C and everything before it? Won't devs have to make two versions of their apps now?
Also, it's still only 1 GB of RAM. Won't devs run into bottle necks, especially for games, a more visually intensive OS and multitasking?
Also, it's still only 1 GB of RAM. Won't devs run into bottle necks, especially for games, a more visually intensive OS and multitasking?
Xcode will automatically create two binaries in the app package. Same transition as it was with OS X. Real easy.
victreeb3l
Member
Touch ID is cool. But yeah, I'm probably gonna wait until early next year to upgrade to the 5S. Maybe just skip it altogether until the 6.
killertofu
Member
I don't really want to upgrade from my 4S....but I really want LTE...