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Apple launches cheaper 8GB iPhone 5C / Retires iPad 2
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On the contrary if your parents aren't tech savvy then they won't get along with 8GB. They won't know how to micromanage their storage space and will quickly run out. They won't understand why updates need 2GB of free space to install. They won't know the how to utilize cloud services to minimize their local storage needs. It'd quickly turn into a piss poor experience for them.
Everyone was expecting it to be much cheaper than it actually was. It's only $100 cheaper.
Might as well just spend the extra $100 for the 5S.
Most older people I know don't really store anything on their phone. It's for making calls, text and web.
Allforce
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I still use an iPad 2 every day, no problems with it and never saw a reason to upgrade.
My wife actually just bought a refurb iPad 2 a few months ago as well, didn't see any reason to spend more for basic web browsing and Facebook use.
I think if I ever did upgrade at any point I'd just get an Android tablet now, the iPad is great but overpriced for what I use it for. I don't use iTunes and I'm not locked into any of Apples other services, it's literally a way to read the web and acts as my eReader.
My wife actually just bought a refurb iPad 2 a few months ago as well, didn't see any reason to spend more for basic web browsing and Facebook use.
I think if I ever did upgrade at any point I'd just get an Android tablet now, the iPad is great but overpriced for what I use it for. I don't use iTunes and I'm not locked into any of Apples other services, it's literally a way to read the web and acts as my eReader.
BrokenEchelon
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So now, instead of stagnating, they're going backwards. Fascinating.
That's because analysts decided what the 5C was and who it was aimed at months before the announcement. Apple never intended it to be very cheap.
Pictures.
Apple intended the 5c to be very cheap -- cheap for them to produce that is. Analysts assumed that Apple would extend that cheap cost to a low price but Apple decided to keep their high margins instead
If Apple offers it contract upgrade price for $0, it'd replace the 4S. It's a great entry level phone. For someone that is just getting their first smartphone and really don't care for downloads, apps, media, they just want to use the phone, texts, streaming.
I highly doubt the 4/4s will be able to run Apple's next major IOS overhaul. This seems like a long term change.
If you believe iSuppli's teardowns (and to be fair, that's a big "if"), the 5C is only ~$25 cheaper to produce than the 5S.
Thinking about it, I don't think the intent of the 5C was ever to be a "cheap" phone. I think the intent was to basically redress the iPhone 5 in a new shell so they could try to push two "new" flagship phones instead of one. (And obviously that didn't work.)
The 16GB 5c has already been dropped to $0 on contract, by many retailers in the USA. The 8GB is only in Europe so far and there it's being sold alongside the 4s for now
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NinjaFridge
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Just checked the store. £429 for 8GB is ridiculous. Who the hell will spend over £400 on a phone with such a small amount of storage?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Meanwhile a 16 gig Moto G aka low end Moto Phone is $200 out the door.
I love my 5C (it's a great looking, durable phone), but 8GB of storage in 2014 is criminal. Flash memory is cheaper than water. You can get 16/32/64GB SD cards for next to nothing (<$10 for 16gb on Amazon). Apps routinely take up a couple hundred megabytes.
People should not put up with this crap any more!
People should not put up with this crap any more!
AstroNut325
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I'm hoping this bombs hard for Apple. Seriously... Is this some sort of joke?
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No change in price for the US? Get bent Apple!
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No change in price for the US? Get bent Apple!
Aquamarine
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Nope. He died the day after the 4S was revealed. :-(
Are you taking about the 5c? the 8gb model is not available in the US. the price is the same because the memory hasnt changed.
If youre talking about the ipad 4, did you expect it to be cheaper than the price they sold the ipad 2 for?
NekoFever
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No they won't because all they'll install on it is Facebook, eBay and Skype. At most.
Exactly.
Yes, pictures.
My parents are not tech savvy at all, but due to ease if use, they are filling up the storage due to taking lots if photos.
And I think the 5c was always meant to be a iPhone replacement.
i dont know mine. i'm pretty alright with my 8GB moto g. for other stuff i have a tablet as well. and im sure many apple users do, too. so you keep your phone for basic stuff and do the rest like gaming on the bigger device. at least thats what im doing!
for the large iPads, yes.
semi related, the old ipad mini is now the last non-retina screened iOS device that Apple sells.
Fox Mulder
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8GB of storage is awful. Apple has the best app market and itunes is full of media, no storage will just turn people off of exploring their ecosystem.
Streaming everything isn't that great of an option either with unlimited data plans being dead.
Streaming everything isn't that great of an option either with unlimited data plans being dead.
I got a 5c for my wife for Xmas.
It's got 16GB, but I'll be amazed if she ever uses more than 8GB on it.
She's just got a few apps and some photos on there, so as long as there is enough space for her to install updates she'll be happy.
Now 4G is becoming more and more available over here, I feel the need for storage is becoming less and less.
We get 10GB of shared data, "free" use of Deezer (unlimited music streaming) and have got iPlayer / Sky Go / Netflix for any films / music.
It's got 16GB, but I'll be amazed if she ever uses more than 8GB on it.
She's just got a few apps and some photos on there, so as long as there is enough space for her to install updates she'll be happy.
Now 4G is becoming more and more available over here, I feel the need for storage is becoming less and less.
We get 10GB of shared data, "free" use of Deezer (unlimited music streaming) and have got iPlayer / Sky Go / Netflix for any films / music.
check out the topic you are in! Doesn't seem that will happen especially as cloud services become more and more popular.
Victory Red
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I work for a large retailer, and managers with company issued phones started getting 5Cs a few months ago.
All previous managers had 4Ss.
Finally killed off the iPad 2. That thing is now three years old...
Hilariously overpriced with the same HW as the old iPad mini for the price of the iPad mini Retina (which has iPad Air HW).
The 8GB 5C sounds strange when flash is so cheap, but personally I'd be fine with 8. The only thing that I need storage for is podcasts and 1GB is enough for several hours. Programs barely take up storage.
Did you forget this one?
Hilariously overpriced with the same HW as the old iPad mini for the price of the iPad mini Retina (which has iPad Air HW).
The 8GB 5C sounds strange when flash is so cheap, but personally I'd be fine with 8. The only thing that I need storage for is podcasts and 1GB is enough for several hours. Programs barely take up storage.
Did you forget this one?
SirMossyBloke
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I'm shocked the 5c is still considered a failure. Our store sells 3 times more 5cs than 5s'. I'd be surprised if our store is literally the only store that sees that sales shift.
Maninthemirror
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8gb iPhone 5c is international only. Not USA
Interesting move.
The point of the 5C model was to introduce an iPhone that could compete (price-wise) with Android devices in emerging markets. A lot of countries don't offer subsidized phones, so the high price tag (typically $600-900 dollars) for an iPhone is driving people towards Android devices.
In other words, Apple saw a repeat of Mac Vs Windows, and the 5C was their solution to the problem. This is why they're willing to sacrifice storage space on the 5C - the phone is meant to appeal to markets that don't have a robust internet infrastructure, or in other words, markets that won't be downloading a ton of stuff from iTunes/App Store.
The point of the 5C model was to introduce an iPhone that could compete (price-wise) with Android devices in emerging markets. A lot of countries don't offer subsidized phones, so the high price tag (typically $600-900 dollars) for an iPhone is driving people towards Android devices.
In other words, Apple saw a repeat of Mac Vs Windows, and the 5C was their solution to the problem. This is why they're willing to sacrifice storage space on the 5C - the phone is meant to appeal to markets that don't have a robust internet infrastructure, or in other words, markets that won't be downloading a ton of stuff from iTunes/App Store.
Doominated
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Cutting $50-100 off the 5c still makes it horrendously overpriced off contract, which is where the device's theory should be selling.
Thank god they're finally getting rid of the iPad 2 though. It's frustrating to see people walk into the store I work at, want an iPad, and walk out with an iPad 2 because "I don't want to spend $500". No matter how many times you tell them they're buying 3 year old tech, they don't care. At least they'll walk out with something good now.
Thank god they're finally getting rid of the iPad 2 though. It's frustrating to see people walk into the store I work at, want an iPad, and walk out with an iPad 2 because "I don't want to spend $500". No matter how many times you tell them they're buying 3 year old tech, they don't care. At least they'll walk out with something good now.
I'm sure it sells well but as a device it's rubbish for the price and the tech given the 5S only costs slightly more up front on a contract. I am sure if laypeople understood just how much better the 5S is to the 5C the latter would be massive flop but given how crazy the margins must be on a 5C I doubt Apple care.
Off contract the Nexus 5 and Xperia Z1 Compact are both cheaper and far better phones.
I've always found it odd that they kept the iPad 2, rather than keep the 4th gen, as the cheap entry-level iPad when they introduced the Air.
Apple wants to make the lightning connector their new standard, and it just seemed contradictory to keep the iPad 2 with the old 30-pin connector.
Apple wants to make the lightning connector their new standard, and it just seemed contradictory to keep the iPad 2 with the old 30-pin connector.
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