Apple releases Safari 4 beta
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lunarworks
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I want an actual solution, not a patchwork involving stylesheets.Fatalah said:
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
what're you using tabs for, PANSY? real men have 30 windows opened up.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Angelus Errare
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:Uh, IE8, Chrome, and Safari are multiple times faster than Firefox 3, and Opera 10 isn't that fast.
Edit: Turns out IE8 isn't as fast as Microsoft said!
nvm, just read your edit.
badcrumble
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I still don't understand why it's so hard to fix that. I'm almost certainly going to move on from Safari to Firefox 3.5 and I've been clinging to Safari pretty hardcore up until now but I'm just sick of the GIF issues never being fixed.panda21 said:
Keylime
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I'm getting there myself. As much as I love the Safari browsers speed, I'm hating how I need to kill it maybe 2-3 times a day due to gifs murdering it.badcrumble said:
Almost wonder if Apple is taking a "animated gif is the past, animated png is the future" approach, and just not support animated gifs to try and push the format?
I can't think of a reason why they would just leave this issue alone for so long.
DefectiveReject
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Safari runs at 330MB of memory CONSTANTLY on my laptop......WTF? i only had the BC website open and it still had 330MB running
Particle Physicist
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fuuuck. GAF has crashed my safari 4 so many times.. im going back to firefox 3.. they need to fix this shit. cause i really like the browser otherwise.
Safari 4 in 10.6 hasn't beach balled or crashed once for me.
This page didn't freeze or beachball me: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348315
This page didn't freeze or beachball me: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348315
AndrewG009
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mattiewheels said:
:lol
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between a quark and a baryon
rezuth said:
mine was running fine at first.. but there were some threads in the gaming side that i had to use firefox for.
DefectiveReject
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i got top sites turned off....giga said:
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
i'm glad you're not in charge. the new version makes a lot of great changes.xabre said:
RubxQub said:
I agree the gif thing is bad, but I understand it's part of webkit? Does Chrome exhibit the same issue? And for the record, I get severe beachballing, but it eventually works it self out (even if for a moment). I can't even recall when I had Safari crash and quit on me.
permutated
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I adore the Top Sites option! Safari 4 has almost completely replaced Firefox for me.
Working real well.
Working real well.
crisdecuba
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No issues on my version of Chrome.mrkgoo said:
ChoklitReign
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I'm still using Opera, dammit, because Chrome has no features and I can sure as helll tell it's faster than Firefox.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:Uh, IE8, Chrome, and Safari are multiple times faster than Firefox 3, and Opera 10 isn't that fast.
Edit: Turns out IE8 isn't as fast as Microsoft said!
I only tolerate the terrible animated GIF support because I love everything else about the browser. I've sent bug reports to Apple in the past about this and I have some theories why it's still broken:
1) Fixing it would somehow break the ACID 3 test.
2) Fixing it would somehow fudge up Safari on iPhone
3) Fixing it would mean replacing some core part of the OS
None the less, by not fixing it they are shooting themselves in the foot as this thread clearly indicates.
1) Fixing it would somehow break the ACID 3 test.
2) Fixing it would somehow fudge up Safari on iPhone
3) Fixing it would mean replacing some core part of the OS
None the less, by not fixing it they are shooting themselves in the foot as this thread clearly indicates.
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I imagine the size of people who care about large animated gifs is very small...but very vocal :lolckohler said:
It drives us nuts because it's part of what we do and see on a daily basis, but the average user visiting ESPN and Google won't ever run into this.
So glad I found this thread to vent. I LOVE Safari and couldn't understand why GAF keeps crashing it.
It's strange too, cause it's not all gifs, it's just gifs on certain websites. Considering that I spend so much time on the GAF, it's really a problem for me.
Is there a petition of some kind? I'm sure Apple knows about the problem, but wow, I am glad to have found other people who are as frustrated as I am.
It's strange too, cause it's not all gifs, it's just gifs on certain websites. Considering that I spend so much time on the GAF, it's really a problem for me.
Is there a petition of some kind? I'm sure Apple knows about the problem, but wow, I am glad to have found other people who are as frustrated as I am.
gabe90 said:
petitions do shit.
I must have filed over a dozen crash reports to Apple plus sent bug reports a couple times to apple's feedback page.
not much else we can do except choose to use a different browser.
at least the final release of safari 4 is slightly less shit than the beta (takes more gif madness to crash it). the word that 10.6 reduces the crashiness of it all is a good thing.
LCfiner said:
Again, I've never had a full blown shutdown of safari, just huge hang (it always ends eventually, but you have to scroll quick to a part without gifs, so you can close the tab, or it starts again).
My only reprieve, really, is to use my iPhone, which at least doesn't go ballistic like Safari 4 does. Oh, the irony.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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So does Chrome. It's a Webkit problem, not a Safari problem.Surfheart said:
Because JavaScript is totally what makes a browser fast. Take GAF for example. I can definitely feel Nitro and V8 rendering the posts faster.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:Uh, IE8, Chrome, and Safari are multiple times faster than Firefox 3, and Opera 10 isn't that fast.
Edit: Turns out IE8 isn't as fast as Microsoft said!
LiveFromKyoto
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Slurpy said:
There's a whole world full of people like my mom - who's a dba, no less - who don't care about the differences and think IE is just fine. At the end of the day, the differences aren't that pronounced if you're somebody who doesn't do more web surfing than is healthy.
Chrome4lyfe - at least until Snow Leopard.
edgefusion
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I thought it was an OS X problem and that's why nobodies done anything about it?
Just downloaded 4. LOVE the speed. Still cant do gifs right. Javascript much better. MEMORY HOG like nobodies business (and if its for top sites, why cant I use that turn page thing they do for the I-Touch/Phone? or is it there but not for windows? and if it is what am I missing doing wrong?)
As for Microsoft Giving up, 80% to like 6% says hi.
As for Microsoft Giving up, 80% to like 6% says hi.
Novid said:
The situation is ridiculous at work. I work for the Canadian government. The Canada Revenue Agency has total control over our IT environment and we have no say. No software (whether open source or not) can be installed at the desktop level unless it's "certified." IE 6 is certified, yet every other modern browser out there isn't.
And the CRA makes it completely impossible to certify new software. So we're all stuck with antiquated software. Even when we want to upgrade to a new version of a software we already own, it's treated like a new piece of software.
Sometimes working for the government is total bullshit.
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