Apple releasing first Public Betas of iOS 10 and macOS Sierra today
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Uploaded manually and no I don't use Apple Music.
It's still a big change even if you don't care about it. Huge changes to Music, Maps, widgets, imessage and photos, plus whatever else changed on the back end. I don't remember photos ever having facial recognition and automatic slideshow capabilities so not sure what you're talking about there.
Zeyphersan
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I'm fine with there being 3-4 medium sized releases per year instead of one huge one. That's gotta take a lot of stress off the development team
The Real Abed
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Remember people. If there's a change you don't think should be there, make sure you're sending feedback. It's only the first Beta. There's still 2/3 months before release. A lot can change based on it.
Also, I can't believe my Documents syncing is still going. It seems stuck at 99% but since there's no time remaining or percentage visible anywhere I can't tell. For all I know it could be stuck on the last file or even done. I don't understand why every time I try to open the folder, the Finder shits the bed. Nothing appears, clicking gives an error sound, closing the window with Command+W crashes the Finder. Hopefully Beta 2 will be fixed. It doesn't seem to have moved my files. It just hid the folder icons for some reason. Even though the folder itself seems to still be in my User folder, opening one of the Documents folders shows it as being located in iCloud Drive as the root. I don't like this. It's just confusing to the user. Just keep it as being in my User folder, but put a Cloud icon in the titlebar or status bar or somewhere to signify that it's an iCloud synced folder. It already has icons for all the stuff in the list.
Edit: Oh, and it's probably a side-effect of how YouTube works, but it's nice that even when a YT video is in PIP mode, the player itself remains usable. Even though the video is black, you can scrub through it and use the controls if you need to. Still, that stuff should be in the PIP window itself just because it's wonky to have to switch to the tab to control the video.
Also, I can't believe my Documents syncing is still going. It seems stuck at 99% but since there's no time remaining or percentage visible anywhere I can't tell. For all I know it could be stuck on the last file or even done. I don't understand why every time I try to open the folder, the Finder shits the bed. Nothing appears, clicking gives an error sound, closing the window with Command+W crashes the Finder. Hopefully Beta 2 will be fixed. It doesn't seem to have moved my files. It just hid the folder icons for some reason. Even though the folder itself seems to still be in my User folder, opening one of the Documents folders shows it as being located in iCloud Drive as the root. I don't like this. It's just confusing to the user. Just keep it as being in my User folder, but put a Cloud icon in the titlebar or status bar or somewhere to signify that it's an iCloud synced folder. It already has icons for all the stuff in the list.
Edit: Oh, and it's probably a side-effect of how YouTube works, but it's nice that even when a YT video is in PIP mode, the player itself remains usable. Even though the video is black, you can scrub through it and use the controls if you need to. Still, that stuff should be in the PIP window itself just because it's wonky to have to switch to the tab to control the video.
Neverender
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Does anyone else feel like the visual design of the lock screen notifications makes them look like they should be tapped to open instead of sliding to the right? Maybe it's because I used to have a Nexus 5 and they remind of the Android notifications.
By the way, for anyone who was having troubles like me with the 'software update failed' error, I downloaded it through a US VPN and it worked.
By the way, for anyone who was having troubles like me with the 'software update failed' error, I downloaded it through a US VPN and it worked.
On 6S(+) you can 3D Touch many of them.
The Real Abed
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Looks like I was wrong about iCloud Drive Documents syncing not having a proper progress indicator...
So that's cool. Though I'd also like a menubar status indicator.
Another thing I don't like though, and I wish I could disable it...
This comes up if you move something from your Desktop or Documents folder into a folder that's not in iCloud. It's annoying. Especially for people using the Desktop as a download destination like me. It's also inaccurate seeing as the files are on my Mac so why make it sound like they're only on the cloud? I already disabled the "remove stuff when your space runs out" option because I ain't gonna have none of that. I have 500GB on my MacBook, I'm sure I'll manage.
Edit: Oh, and also I don't like that it doesn't sync custom icons. I wish it would support them, both on synced macOS machines and the iOS app.
So that's cool. Though I'd also like a menubar status indicator.
Another thing I don't like though, and I wish I could disable it...
This comes up if you move something from your Desktop or Documents folder into a folder that's not in iCloud. It's annoying. Especially for people using the Desktop as a download destination like me. It's also inaccurate seeing as the files are on my Mac so why make it sound like they're only on the cloud? I already disabled the "remove stuff when your space runs out" option because I ain't gonna have none of that. I have 500GB on my MacBook, I'm sure I'll manage.
Edit: Oh, and also I don't like that it doesn't sync custom icons. I wish it would support them, both on synced macOS machines and the iOS app.
It's telling you that the file isn't going to be synced any more. Describing it the way they have is weird, but it makes sense as well to someone who doesn't know the specifics of how the syncing apps work. The fact that you've changed your download location isn't Apple's problem.
The Real Abed
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It should be optional. There's no checkbox to not show it anymore. There should at least be an option.
Mr. Wonderful
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And I'm fine with this, too. I'm just hoping that some of the later iOS 10 releases include additional improvements that expand what we're capable of doing with our phones.
The Real Abed
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Also I can type Command+X to cut teXt or something, but only if I try to type a plain vanilla X it doesn't work.
Edit: Haha, I'm a stupid idiot. Turns out I accidentally created a null BetterTouchTool key command that made it so when I pressed "X" it would "do nothing". Oops!
Also the Finder is shit with iCloud Drive, have I mentioned that? Because yes I have. It was uploading fine, but super slowly, when all of a sudden it crashes and gets stuck in a relaunch and crash loop. I had to reboot then force quit it and make sure to not reopen the folders. Weird thing is it only crashes with List view, not Icon view. Of course List view is what I use all the time.
Time to send some feedback. About iCloud Drive.
Also for some reason it’s impossible to type in Safari right now. There’s a 1-3 second delay between each key. So I have to type this out in Notes where there’s no delay. Safari has always had a problem from time to time but this is ridiculous. And all of a sudden. So it must be something. It’s a weird delay too. Like if I type a bunch of stuff, but then click somewhere else while waiting, it then types that stuff in the new location. Or if I type stuff and then press Back, it sends the keypresses to the new page I’m on.
And my fans are now going wild because of iCloud Drive uploading. Or at least some process called fbahelperd which is taking between 350%-600% of my CPU. Guess I’ll include all that in my report. Hopefully these initial bugs can be squashed by Beta 2. (Fake Edit: fbahelperd belongs to the Feedback Assistant. WTF? It's just sitting there waiting for me to switch back to it and compose a report. Why would it take all that CPU? I assume it was gathering the diagnostic logs.)
They should do the cloud based stuff in .1 or .2 aka maps/drives etc, and let the full releases be changed to the core.
Anyone had new have an editor recommended menu pop up on news? I have no idea how to get back to it.
Zeyphersan
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So I grabbed this and I like it a lot, but it doesn't seem like it's working with the whole parked car feature? Nothing gets marked on the map when I park somewhere. But it apparentk works for you, yeah?
That's weird, yea works for me
Where is the shuffle and repeat toggle? I don't see it anywhere. surely they didn't remove it?
Zeyphersan
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When playing a song scroll down a bit, you'll see the toggles and your queue
With a track playing, open the Music App, tap on the 'Now Playing' bar at the bottom of the screen.
This should bring up the Album Art with the regular play controls (scrub left/right, play pause, volume, etc).
Scroll 'Down' from this screen. You'll get Shuffle/Repat and a list of what's "Up Next".
This doesn't deserve it's own thread, so I'll just leave this here. Razer is, for some insane reason, making a $170 mechanical keyboard case for the 12.9" iPad Pro.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-mechanical-keyboard-case-ipad-pro
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-mechanical-keyboard-case-ipad-pro
Oh shit. Just realized my phone is also connected via Bluetooth to my car.
I completely forgot about this because my car only does talk, so I have to use the adapter that I told you about. So I guess it is using my car's bluetooth? I don't see why it would work with that bluetooth but not the adapter. Seems like it should work with either.
Zeyphersan
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Because car Bluetooth is different than normal Bluetooth, it actually communicates back to the phone that it's a car and not just an audio receiver
Oh well this will still hold me over until CarPlay. Thanks!
That's dumb.
At least you can manually set it when you really need to. Like a mall parking lot
Zeyphersan
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Yeah, I'll just do my normal method of 3D-touching on the icon and marking my location
Works just great for me. Chrome, office 2016, vlc, plex spotify, tranmission and every other app in my rotation works the same. on a 2013 MBA
the only issues are just macOS bugs like mission control and etc.
Eh, it works mostly alright for me. Mac Tweetbot shits itself trying to play videos, and I've had some graphical artifacts (I've had similar artifacts on El Cap and Yosemite betas before), but otherwise it's been okay.
The Real Abed
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The only major Sierra bugs for me aside from iCloud Drive Documents syncing causing shenanigans while uploading, is the constant crashes I get from Metal and when I use Maps the com.apple.geod service keeps crashing.
Also, it reset the sped up animation setting I had set for Mission Control entering and exiting. I forgot how slow that animation is.
Also, it reset the sped up animation setting I had set for Mission Control entering and exiting. I forgot how slow that animation is.
Zeyphersan
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I didn't realize how much I would love the tabbing changes until I saw tabbed Maps
The animation speed depends on your gesture speed now.
Katana_Strikes
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Really would like slide to unlock back. Or at least the option. Thought I'd get used to it but it's just annoying.
Have you tried going into the relevant apps at least once? The Logitech Harmony app actually tells you to do that now and again before it shows anything.
The Real Abed
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Oh my goodness. I can't believe I only just discovered it. Safari in Sierra FINALLY has a "default page zoom" option like Chrome does. Which just sets the overall zoom setting base for the browser.
On my MacBook this is super important. I run it at the 1920x1200 setting, and with zoom set to 100%, everything is pretty darn small. NeoGAF is practically unreadable. So until now I was using an extension called QuickStyle to apply CSS to specific websites to change sizes of fonts and stuff. For NeoGAF I had to do a lot of tweaking. Making some text bigger, keeping other stuff less zoomed, all that jazz. And other sites I'd set to different zooms. I'd apply the CSS zoom: xxx%; to either the HTML or BODY element depending on the website. Sometimes it would work, sometimes not. Other times I'd have to apply it to a different element like the main DIV wrapper. It was too much work.
Now it finally has a default Zoom and I'm slightly happier. First we got a more Chrome-like status bar replacement. Then we got pinned tabs. Now default zoom settings! I set mine to 125%. It makes things big enough to compensate for my extra screen space. No more wasted emptiness on the sides of the page! Unfortunately it still doesn't remember any custom zoom settings for different sites. So like if I need to zoom in or out on a specific site, it won't remember that. But hey, it's progress!
And guess what, we also got a better looking Reading List with website icons for pages that don't have a thumbnail...
And even favicons.... In the Bookmarks Sidebar that is...
On my MacBook this is super important. I run it at the 1920x1200 setting, and with zoom set to 100%, everything is pretty darn small. NeoGAF is practically unreadable. So until now I was using an extension called QuickStyle to apply CSS to specific websites to change sizes of fonts and stuff. For NeoGAF I had to do a lot of tweaking. Making some text bigger, keeping other stuff less zoomed, all that jazz. And other sites I'd set to different zooms. I'd apply the CSS zoom: xxx%; to either the HTML or BODY element depending on the website. Sometimes it would work, sometimes not. Other times I'd have to apply it to a different element like the main DIV wrapper. It was too much work.
Now it finally has a default Zoom and I'm slightly happier. First we got a more Chrome-like status bar replacement. Then we got pinned tabs. Now default zoom settings! I set mine to 125%. It makes things big enough to compensate for my extra screen space. No more wasted emptiness on the sides of the page! Unfortunately it still doesn't remember any custom zoom settings for different sites. So like if I need to zoom in or out on a specific site, it won't remember that. But hey, it's progress!
And guess what, we also got a better looking Reading List with website icons for pages that don't have a thumbnail...
And even favicons.... In the Bookmarks Sidebar that is...
We're one step closer to favicons in tabs! Right, guys? Guys? We're gonna get those eventually... Right? Guys?
I tried, not working... I don't know what's happening.
Mr. Wonderful
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I wonder if it's going to be one of those features that will make sense with one of the new features in the iPhone 7, but will be terrible for all older phones, like the new app switcher.
I've had issues with Music and Calendar/Up Next and found no remedy. Sometimes I can get other widgets to load by scrolling on that page, but those two have been especially thorny.
jts
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Isnt pressing the home button to unlock the most common way of doing it since Touch ID was introduced?
jts
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But that assumes the screen is on, doesn't it. From fully locked with screen off, you either press the home button or you at least wake the screen with the sleep button and then rest your finger.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Yeah Touch ID works like it always did if you press the home button to turn on.
If you use the sleep button, you have to push the home button instead of swiping.
If you use the sleep button, you have to push the home button instead of swiping.
The Real Abed
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Anyone think Beta 2 will come out this week? Think it'd be tomorrow or Tuesday? I'm thinking and hoping to put iOS 10 on my phone with beta 2. (However not until I can start fresh, and I won't do that until I can export the few important And I can't wait to see what was fixed with Sierra. Hopefully they got my hundreds of crash logs from the MTLCompilerService process that completely broke a bunch of stock apps. (I can't even use Messages. And Maps half works. Or at least it was.)
No, the problem right now is that sometimes you have to press the home button twice.
I am currently pressing the home button, resting my finger to "unlock" it, and then pressing it again to actually go into the home screen.
There is a new option in the settings called "Rest to unlock" which should make that second button press go away.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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For me, I press home, hold, and it goes to home screen. iPhone 6.
iphone 6 as well, and that works maybe 40% of the time for me. Worked 100% on ios9. hence the issue (for some)
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