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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

Work from home are not real jobs, or sell insurance on 100% commission who the hell sells insurance

This is incorrect. The company I work for is outgrowing many of their call centers (it's a mail order pharmacy) and are sending somewhere around 800 people to work from home. They are providing computers, network, security, etc. I can assure you it's "real."
 

Voror

Member
I have friends that found jobs out of state after college. Just make sure to let them know that you will not need relocation assistance as that might scare them off. Also, I remember seeing some jobs very recently for news stations in San Antonio if you're interested. They were for production assistants I think.

Alright thank you.

I'll also have to look into San Antonio as well if there are postings up.
 

Ceebs

Member
Just got an offer today for a position I flew out to interview for at the start of the week. Offer is about an extra 10 grand more a year than I was expecting.
 
Tomorrow I have an interview with Grant Thornton for an Audit Associate position. Tonight is the social/mixer where we get to hang out with people from the company plus fellow interviewees.

Trouble is, I'm sick right now. I'm usually really good at interviews and networking events though, so I'm hoping painkillers are enough to get me through it.

Wish me luck!
 

Ceebs

Member
Good job!


Now I gotta be the next one(oh man I need a fulltime job!)

Keep at it. I think my biggest improvement during this (3 hour interview ugh) was I made it a point to have a boatload of questions to ask before I ever sat down. I spent probably a third of the interview asking questions to the interview panel.
 

Corgi

Banned
I was looking at some random jobs for engineers because I got bored looking at only stuff for myself, and found an entry level part time position that requires 3 years of experience.


I think that's one thing that makes me upset the most is that entry level has to have experience...like how are inexperienced people going to receive experience without...the entry level position that you require experience for.

Experience required has always been BS in job application forms. If one had every skill listed for a job application, they would most likely be way over qualified for the position.
 

CrunchyB

Member
I had an interview on Monday, everything went as well as possible. It wasn't so much an interview as a conversation about various topics.

Found out today I didn't get the job. I've got a degree in Computer Engineering (and studied EE) and have over 5 years of experience as a software engineer, mostly C++. But they were looking for an experienced Embedded SE. Which IMO is a rather subtle difference, it just means you have a different set of constraints, limited hardware, strict timing demands, etc. I have less experience with the truly embedded stuff, but not nothing, of course I mentioned the things I did work on. But they were afraid I would need a lot of coaching to get up to speed and of course I'm a bit old at 33(!) so they didn't want to chance it.

They really liked me on a personal level though!

Bah. The commute was horrible (1 hour of bike-train-bike) and I had a feeling they were going to be stingy with salary, so I'm not terribly upset. But it's still disappointing.

So I'm going to get drunk right now and send some more resumes around tomorrow.
 
Alright thank you.

I'll also have to look into San Antonio as well if there are postings up.

Also if you happen to know someone with a local address throw that on your resume and use a story like you're parents just relocated, or your significant other and say you are trying to relocate ASAP. Otherwise an address from another state might get automated out by a computer.
 

Magnus

Member
Interview attained for job of my dreams. I have a week to become an absolute expert and the perfect candidate. Networking and references who wrote in on my behalf made all the difference in the world.
 

Philia

Member
DARS didn't pan out with their bank job for me. They still haven't gotten back to me about what's their damn plans are.

I've moved on and decided to volunteer at an animal shelter. My dream job was always to work with animals since I was a kid. If I can't get a job, just as well accrue experience anyway. I hope to get contacts from my volunteering to find a job I'd love doing. Grooming or training.
 
Meant to post in this thread last week but...

After nearly a year of looking for full time employment (and working part time in real estate which... wasn't working out) after I got out of school I finally started a new position in a fairly early stages startup in NYC this week! It all happened very fast (2 phone interviews and then a 2 hour long in-person interview with 3 different people including the founder) within less than a week. I got hired the day after the in-person interview.

The commute is kind of a drag (70 minutes on NJ transit each way) but I'm planning to move to the city early next year. The pay is so-so but they gave me the maximum salary they could and there's a pretty decent commission component built into the job. It's sales, but for a product/app I actually believe in and it beats the hell out of the real estate business I was in before, which was 100% commission.

I've felt such a great relief over the past week, it's a weird, slightly uncomfortable sensation since I've grown so used to wondering when my next paycheck was going to be. I'm still running on fumes for the most part until the end of next week but for the first time in a long time I'm not worried about certain things anymore.
 
I currently work for one of the emergency services in the UK. It’s 12 hour shifts and half of them are night shifts which I hate. I’ve been job hunting for the last 6 months with not so much as a rejection email, just being ignored completely.

Last month my boss handed his notice in and they advertised his position. I applied and got an interview last week. Found out this week I got the job. The job officially starts on Monday but legally they have to give a month notice to alter the shift rota so will still be on my shifts for 30 days.

I don’t know how much longer I could have lasted if this promotion hadn’t come up. Job hunting is one of the worst things a person has to do. It’s even worse if you don’t have a job while you are hunting and I hope I never have to do it again.
 

DyTonic

Banned
I was scheduled for a phone interview with a recruiter and the guy never called. I just feel it's unprofessional to have someone waiting and I sent him an email asking when can we reschedule.

I feel some of these big corporations, though are just hoarding resumes to be in their pool.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
I was scheduled for a phone interview with a recruiter and the guy never called. I just feel it's unprofessional to have someone waiting and I sent him an email asking when can we reschedule.

I feel some of these big corporations, though are just hoarding resumes to be in their pool.

Oh wow, never experienced this before. And yes it is indeed unprofessional. One time the manager called 30min late but the HR called me and notified be before hand that he is in an urgent meeting and will call you after 30min and even manager apologized when he called.
 

Cth

Member
I was scheduled for a phone interview with a recruiter and the guy never called. I just feel it's unprofessional to have someone waiting and I sent him an email asking when can we reschedule.

I feel some of these big corporations, though are just hoarding resumes to be in their pool.

I had it happen three times this week for what it's worth :D
 

DyTonic

Banned
I hope he responds so I can hear the offer. I took a break from submitting my resume because I wanted to reword it to be better noticed.
 

The Lamp

Member
I was scheduled for a phone interview with a recruiter and the guy never called. I just feel it's unprofessional to have someone waiting and I sent him an email asking when can we reschedule.

I feel some of these big corporations, though are just hoarding resumes to be in their pool.

Are you in the same time zone? Be wary of that. I made that mistake once lol.
 

Aylinato

Member
Keep at it. I think my biggest improvement during this (3 hour interview ugh) was I made it a point to have a boatload of questions to ask before I ever sat down. I spent probably a third of the interview asking questions to the interview panel.


See I can ace interviews but I just gotta get my foot in the door. I'm batting like 100% with interviews(except one time for a cook job, the dude asked a google-level question and I just stared at him)


I just graduated from university. So I'm applying to full time jobs, anyone have any tips?
 

DyTonic

Banned
See I can ace interviews but I just gotta get my foot in the door. I'm batting like 100% with interviews(except one time for a cook job, the dude asked a google-level question and I just stared at him)


I just graduated from university. So I'm applying to full time jobs, anyone have any tips?

Make sure your resume is really solid, use industry lingos etc. Resume is the first step to even get a conversation.
 

Aylinato

Member
Make sure your resume is really solid, use industry lingos etc. Resume is the first step to even get a conversation.


By industry lingos, does each category of job decor have certain lingos?

I know government does(and I know it for the legislative side) however what about courts or other governmental positions?
 

DyTonic

Banned
I meant to say, gather all the common words you see listed for position you want and place them in your resume. Your objective I feel should be straightforward with how you want to apply yourself within a company.

I am doing supply chain with sap so I try to briefly state what I know about it and leave the rest up for a reply.
 
Also change up the common resume boring phrases. For example, change "looking for an opportunity" to "secure a position" and so forth, use firmer language. It helped me out a lot in getting hits. My problem right now is getting past the interview wall.
 
I have friends that found jobs out of state after college. Just make sure to let them know that you will not need relocation assistance as that might scare them off. Also, I remember seeing some jobs very recently for news stations in San Antonio if you're interested. They were for production assistants I think.

I live around Dallas area and its freaking hard to get a job to do with video production/film, so don't feel discouraged even though you are out of state.

I work in city government video production, which I know isn't narrative film making, but it can be close to news/documentary if you go into it with a specific mindset. You might be able to get a job up there doing that, usually the postings are on specific city websites.


Edit: Well, its hard to get a stable studio job in film down here, is what I meant. Seems like freelance is key ATM for video production or by project to project by searching movie/tv show postings. mandy.com is one and staffmeup.com also.
 
I actually took out the objective as the new trend in my region was without them

The new trend is to bulletpoint your overall strengths/accomplishments at the top of the resume - usually titled as "Overview".

The cover letter is where you lay out some of your objectives - but not too much.
 

ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
Had two interviews for a position I'm not super excited about (supporting database software and implementations for large-scale businesses, basically advanced tech support) and another interview for a position I'm more interested in (QA work for an investment firm's homegrown software).

Gotta love waiting around on weekends for the inevitable rejection the following week (if I'm lucky).
 

PseudoViper

Member
Yep, I've been down this road. I have so much experience and for a while I could NOT snag a job to save my life!

needs job > entry level > needs 20 years of exp. to do an entry level job (really -__-||)

has exp. > over qualified > rejected

Can't win for shit
 
I've been without a job for exactly six months. Right now I'm at the point where I just need money and don't really care what the job is. Any money, whatever. The wife works and its enough for us, but this next months(from here to january, I hope) are going to be brutal.

I've been sending my CV almost every week and it is soulcrushing. I sent my CV for several help desk positions(as in: the most basic, newbfriendly job in IT) and despite having like 6 years of experience in support(I was a web admin for a large company, wich actually meant a fancier help desk for us) no one is even calling me for a basic interview.

Yesterday I said fuck it and sent my cv for a professional practices job(I don't know the name in english, is the kind of job you get before you leave school, only to get some exp) and they called me, did a personality test and no callback after that.

TL;DR: I can't even get a job made for people without experience despite having experience doing that job

If I get in a better mood, maybe I'll post a story about a awful interview I had a few months ago
 

DyTonic

Banned
If you can say a lot in two sentences an objective wouldn't hurt. My resume is tailored around being an IT professional so, I try make myself able to fit as much roles as possible.

I seriously send out 15-20 resumes a day. I took a three day break and I did a couple follow ups and I'm 2 months in. I had about 3 interviews.
 

Aylinato

Member
The new trend is to bulletpoint your overall strengths/accomplishments at the top of the resume - usually titled as "Overview".

The cover letter is where you lay out some of your objectives - but not too much.

Yeah I've got it set up like that, some jobs don't ask for a cover letter, but I try to tailor each one to the job

If you can say a lot in two sentences an objective wouldn't hurt. My resume is tailored around being an IT professional so, I try make myself able to fit as much roles as possible.

I seriously send out 15-20 resumes a day. I took a three day break and I did a couple follow ups and I'm 2 months in. I had about 3 interviews.


I've been looking since before I graduated and have gotten a lot of responses and at least one over the phone interview.
 

Magnus

Member
My professors, advisors, mentors, and even the hiring managers and directors in interviews over the past year have all agreed on one thing: lose the Objective on the resume.

Your objective is obvious: to get the job. To get work.

Space is at such a premium on a resume. Objective wipes out four lines or so, between the title, spacing and actual content of that section.

Just my opinion.
 

DyTonic

Banned
If a cover letter is optional then I don't see a problem with the objective. I have 2 versions to my resume though, depending on the role I'm applying for.


I have the interview in person next week, phone went well. I wouldn't hold my breath though..I can't even see things in a positive light due to the process of waiting.
 

Liberty4all

Banned
Heads up to the Canadians in this thread:

Canadian Federal government's Post Secondary Recruitment Drive is on right now until October 2nd.

The Post-Secondary Recruitment (PSR) campaign is designed to hire university and college graduates into a range of entry-level officer jobs within the federal government.

Apply directly to a specific job opportunity or apply to be part of unique career stream inventories. These inventories will be established at the close of the campaign and will be made available to all departments and agencies across the public service who can access them for their job openings.

Job Opportunities: http://jobs-emplois.gc.ca/psr-rp/index-eng.php?p=2
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
My big problem is I keep going through a huge list of jobs that are either a total mismatch for what experience I do have (mainly writing articles), or, predictably, require 3-5 years of experience in something I've never done.
 
Tell me about it. As an illustrator / graphic designer i need to do this every week to get my gigs.
When things don't go your way for a while it's pretty depressing. But you also learn to deal with it after time. As long as you think you work hard enough for it and the quality is good and as long as some great jobs do go your way, it's all good.

But yeah, the competition and constant insecurity can be soul cruching sometimes.
 

Ceebs

Member
So anyone else get stupid nervous after getting an offer and moving on the background check part? Like "were all my dates from 6 years ago right?" kinda stuff.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
My professors, advisors, mentors, and even the hiring managers and directors in interviews over the past year have all agreed on one thing: lose the Objective on the resume.

Your objective is obvious: to get the job. To get work.

Space is at such a premium on a resume. Objective wipes out four lines or so, between the title, spacing and actual content of that section.

Just my opinion.

I actually agree with this too. I used to put object on top, but it was kinda pointless.

If a cover letter is optional then I don't see a problem with the objective. I have 2 versions to my resume though, depending on the role I'm applying for.


I have the interview in person next week, phone went well. I wouldn't hold my breath though..I can't even see things in a positive light due to the process of waiting.

Cover letter is optional but you should always make one company specific. Just to stand out from the crowd. HR or manager will never read it, but its good to have it, and they like when people put extra effort into their application.

Do what I did in past when I was looking for work, make a standard cover letter, and everytime change the first paragraph with company related stuff. I know its time consuming but it will be worth it.

So anyone else get stupid nervous after getting an offer and moving on the background check part? Like "were all my dates from 6 years ago right?" kinda stuff.

Yes, but you shouldn't worry if your criminal and sometimes they do credit check is good. Beside that they wont care much about the other stuff.
 
So, I got two emails back from this company I really wanted to work at. Sadly, they moved on with another candidate, with the first email saying just that, and the second, the guy personally apologizing. I replied with a thank you, because why not.

Rather not burn bridges, even if I don't get to use them.

The job situation as a whole is drying up a bit. I stuck with the recruiters at Creative Circle for a week or so, but all I've been sent is freelance stuff. As a social media person, I kinda want to aim for a standard job.

What sucks the most is how I'll apply, they'll hype me up, and then notify me of another candidate sweeping in. I'm not sure if those same people use CC or not, but I've decided to put in my resume at other recruiting businesses. It'll be tedious walking into each office, introducing myself, signing whatever forms I need to, and wading through emails after emails, but it'll be worth it in the end.

Also, don't worry about background checks. I used to work unofficially at a place with my girlfriend and they never checked that. What they will check is references, so make sure the people you put down are in the know.
 

Guesong

Member
Well, the wheel of time moves again for me.

Have a good feeling for this one, but I'll know for sure tommorow after a face-to-face interview. Good commute, a nice non-profit organisation and I'd be able to pick up valuable experience for my domain as well as broaden my general skills.

Hope it pans out. I know I'll find a good place eventually no matter what, but after 5 months, I'm ready to leave my role of home caretaker behind a bit. xD
 

Corgi

Banned
that feel when 2 job openings 4 candidates and you don't get the job. That coin flip.


Keep the train moving!
 

Pastry

Banned
I have a huge second round interview with the Director of Marketing tomorrow. Super nervous but I'm spending all day getting myself prepared, really want this job.
 
I did an employment course recently and aced all its projects, but couldn't hold a placement because it drained me and made my depression worse.

I rarely have any energy, and just applying for the jobs they had us apply for (placement was only temporary unless they really liked us and I never made a sale) was draining. I hated it. I'd stopped applying on my own a few years back, once I started reviewing and feeling like garbage.

Now this:

I received a very unexpected letter today, from an automotive company I used to work for during college. That was years ago, when I did two nights of midnights per week on their assembly line and hated it. The money was great, but I only got work half the time, because I was just a fill in for people who wanted to go home or stayed home, and I was the lowest support worker on the totem pole.

I'm a slow person, and always have been. I put a lot of effort into the job and didn't slack, but I couldn't keep up with their 30 second time limits on most jobs. I got in shit a lot for being slow, but couldn't help it. If I ran to the parts, they'd yell at me too.

There were two easy jobs I got really good at and could finish in about 10 seconds, but only those two. The others were too convoluted for a klutz like me.

This was back when I felt better, but I hated how mind-numbing it was.

They laid me off after less than a year, and said I just wasn't working out. Then, two years later, they were hiring f/t and my Dad forced me to try again. They didn't hire me, though, as I failed the practice session in the interview, where I had to do a test job. I was too slow (most people did much more than me) and got in trouble for trying to speed up by putting two parts (nut and bolt or washer) on together.

Now, I got a letter saying that since I was in the student program, they want to know if I would like to join a supplemental full-time workforce at $20/hr with minimal benefits. I really don't want to work there again, and don't think I could work full-time like I am, but I feel like I shouldn't pass it up and my Dad will kill me if I do.

However, it just says to write my name/cellphone number and home number there, then mail it in. So, there'll be another interview that I'll likely fail. Likely just a waste of time.
 

Ophelion

Member
I'm in kind of an awkward position right now.

So, I do currently have a job and I make...Ok money doing it. But I really dislike the company I'm working for. It's insurance related and...anyone whose been anywhere near that world can probably tell you how shady that is. Even companies on the up and up like the one I'm at do some despicable stuff. Also, there is like 0 chance of upward mobility in the company I'm working for. My boss quit a few month's back and they just gave me all her responsibilities and a $1/hr raise and never replaced her position.

Anyway, I'm being offered a potential position with NoA (not testing, something else.) Same pay all that, but like most NoA positions, it's temporary: 9 months on, 3 off sort of deal with no guarantee they'll rehire you obviously. BUT all my friends who work for Nintendo rave about what a good work environment it is and how much they love working there and being fulfilled with one's work environment sounds like such a novel thing...and I know the odds of transitioning from temp NoA to proper staff are astronomically small, but it would get me working in the industry and I would have a greater than 0% chance of having upward mobility.

Anyway, is the sacrifice of a little stability worth it to work somewhere that doesn't make your skin crawl? I'm leaning yes, but I was just wondering what some other people thought about it.
 

Guesong

Member
Anyway, is the sacrifice of a little stability worth it to work somewhere that doesn't make your skin crawl? I'm leaning yes, but I was just wondering what some other people thought about it.

The whole reason why I quit my job 5 months ago is because I couldn't stand doing what I was doing. You only have one life, why should you spend it doing something you loathe at any time?

Of course, it always depend on your financial situation, but if you think you can work with being a temp (and there's always a better chance of going temp --> perm than nothing --> perm), go for it.
 

Downhome

Member
For those following along with me and the state job I'm working on trying to get - I called twice, left a voice mail both times, never heard back. The last time I called was last Wednesday. Today I couldn't take it so I called once more, but just to ask the lady at the front desk if they had hired anyone yet. She said nope, the job was very much still available! That was enough to give me just a tiny bit more hope. My last unemployment payment comes this week, so I NEED something ASAP. We are to the wire here.

Well, just an hour or so later I get a call and it's from the head lady in HR that I've interviewed with not once but twice now. She said they haven't spoken to anyone else about the position but she has been so busy with the department that she didn't have time to call me back until today. She thanked me for the voice messages saying it kept reminding her to get on it, and today she finally did after she heard word that I had called and asked the front desk person if it was still open or not.

She told me she wants me to come back for a THIRD interview. The first one was with her, the second one was with her and the other lady that already does the job at night I would be doing during the day, and this third interview will be with her and the department board director.

So nervous, so freakin' nervous, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
 
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