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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

Corgi

Banned
job hunting would be so much better if recruiters weren't so shitty at their jobs.

1.5 weeks after face to face.

me: "Have you heard any feedback from the company?"

recruiter: "Nope."

me: " ...Could you give them a ring/email?"

recruiter: "I found another opportunity, do you have the skills that aren't on your resume?"


And the other kid of recruiters are even worse. Those indian firms that work for pyramid or some other places, that don't even bother reading your resume, just throw any job that hits any keywords at you "If you are comfortable reply back".
 
job hunting would be so much better if recruiters weren't so shitty at their jobs.

1.5 weeks after face to face.

me: "Have you heard any feedback from the company?"

recruiter: "Nope."

me: " ...Could you give them a ring/email?"

recruiter: "I found another opportunity, do you have the skills that aren't on your resume?"


And the other kid of recruiters are even worse. Those indian firms that work for pyramid or some other places, that don't even bother reading your resume, just throw any job that hits any keywords at you "If you are comfortable reply back".

Job recruiters are more hit than miss. I found my previous job through one, but it took wading through tons of idiocy to reach that point. Like, I'm pretty sure they fucked up something on their side because I had a job lined up, with the employer practically begging me to work for them, and a week later I got nothing.

As someone mentioned, yes, I get waves of recruiters coming in sporadically. When I had my first resume out (it was shit), I got lots of hits and calls. Now after cleaning it up, taking out the shitty objective, I barely get a whisper from Creative Circle and the like. Hell, I threw my resume at other recruiting agencies but they haven't called me yet.
 

midramble

Pizza, Bourbon, and Thanos
i'm glad to hear Superman pose helped you. After trying it myself awhile back when job hunting I'm a true believer now.

Re: Your job offer typically they expect to hear back immediately or as close to immediately as possible. Once they give you the offer that's when you can say you need a day or two to think about it. Usually the job offer will have a 5 day window or so in which you can accept or decline it after which the offer will be withdrawn.

It's been af ew days since the email so I would call them back. Get the terms of the offer then say you need a day or two to think about it. If you haven't heard back from the full time job by then, well at that point accept the part time job offer. If you get offered full time work shortly after, quit the part time job. It kind of sucks that you may have to go that route (taking the part time job only to quit a week or two later), but in the end full time is what you need. The flip side is you may never hear from that full time job interview you had ever again. So you can't turn down potential work.

How hard is it to get a job at SCEA if you don't mind my asking? I recently applied for a SysAdmin position at their San Mateo office but the LinkedIn page showed that the competition was pretty intense and, despite attempts to contact them further, I've received no response.

At the same time I am on my 3rd interview tomorrow at the EA games HQ in redwood. A good chunk of this, and any other position application I guess, was some networking and getting to know some of the QA guys down in Emeryville.

So I guess my other question would be, what are some good ways to network with people at SCEA. I figure being located more in the south bay and frequenting the shops and whatnot will help, but I was wondering if you had any inside advice. Meeting other military members in a company has ended up helping my network as well.
 

Hayvic

Member
I don't want to rub it into the face of anyone who's looking and having a hard time but my job hunt couldn't have gone easier. Two months prior to graduation I got contacted by a recruiter via Linkedin who had an interesting offer (update your linkedin!) I took him up on it and a skype interview later I got invited by the company. After two rounds I was hired and I could start immediately after my graduation. Again I don't want to rub it in. I realize fully how well things have gone for me. Just want to show that there are some good recruiters out there. Good luck everyone.
 

Magnus

Member
I don't want to rub it into the face of anyone who's looking and having a hard time but my job hunt couldn't have gone easier. Two months prior to graduation I got contacted by a recruiter via Linkedin who had an interesting offer (update your linkedin!) I took him up on it and a skype interview later I got invited by the company. After two rounds I was hired and I could start immediately after my graduation. Again I don't want to rub it in. I realize fully how well things have gone for me. Just want to show that there are some good recruiters out there. Good luck everyone.

This is great, congrats! Which field are you in? I'm guessing STEM, haha. I doubt any recruiters would be contacted those of us in Arts, Communications, etc. pre-graduation. I could be wrong.

On the other hand, the recruiter experience has been great for me now that I've graduated (from multiple post-secondary institutions/programs) and have several years of experience under my belt. A friend connected me with a recruiter, as a job came her way that she didn't want, but thought I'd be an ideal fit.

The initial job didn't turn out to be a match, but the second she brought me has resulted in two great interviews and a job offer. Just turned out to happen at the same time as 2 other job offers….can't complain. Just need to make some tough decisions.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
The waiting is the worst.

Tell me about it, I finally got a call from the job I have been wanting for months. Had a fantastic interview where I was told I was going to be hired. Did my background check paperwork last Thursday and still waiting on a call back. I fell like I'm going to come out of my skin.
 

Downhome

Member
For those following along with me and the state job I'm working on trying to get - I called twice, left a voice mail both times, never heard back. The last time I called was last Wednesday. Today I couldn't take it so I called once more, but just to ask the lady at the front desk if they had hired anyone yet. She said nope, the job was very much still available! That was enough to give me just a tiny bit more hope. My last unemployment payment comes this week, so I NEED something ASAP. We are to the wire here.

Well, just an hour or so later I get a call and it's from the head lady in HR that I've interviewed with not once but twice now. She said they haven't spoken to anyone else about the position but she has been so busy with the department that she didn't have time to call me back until today. She thanked me for the voice messages saying it kept reminding her to get on it, and today she finally did after she heard word that I had called and asked the front desk person if it was still open or not.

She told me she wants me to come back for a THIRD interview. The first one was with her, the second one was with her and the other lady that already does the job at night I would be doing during the day, and this third interview will be with her and the department board director.

So nervous, so freakin' nervous, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Just to follow up on this...

I went to my third interview today for the job with the state today. The head of HR wasn't there, nor was the director, but they had me meet with the assistant HR lady. She said something very important came up that the two of them needed to take care of and she brought me into her office. She pretty much just wanted to meet with me, get to know me, and explain more in depth about the job. She was asking how I felt about the position and the work and I of course said I was excited and very eager to get to work.

I wasn't sure what she was going to do or say, but in the end she said they were thrilled they found me and can't wait to work with me. She then wrote down a few bits of information they needed (drivers license, SS card, 10 year driving record, a voided check to set up automatic draft for pay, and so on) and handed it to me and said to go ahead and gather everything and I'll likely be called to come in next Tuesday to fill out all of the paperwork, start training, and then on October 5th I'd start the state training that everyone has to go through at the start, then after there I'd be going through a week or two of training on the job site, and then after that the real work will begin.

She said the head HR lady will call me back later today to talk to me about more details of everything such as benefits, how they work, and of course to discuss pay.

I'm so thrilled. I LITERALLY just got my final unemployment payment yesterday. I can't believe this, it's truly amazing to me.

I don't think I have mentioned this yet, but the job is working for a state organization working with people with disabilities and special needs. I will be trained at a local factory and then my job will be being in control of a training/class room at the site, and I will be in charge of teaching, guiding and mentoring people with mental disabilities on how to perform the job, how to stay on top of everything from their work life to even their home life if it affects their job. Most of the clients would have high-functioning autism, Asperger's syndrome, and things along those lines. In addition, I will be in charge (hand in hand with the other lady on site that does the same thing on another shift) of going out into the community and going to their homes and evaluating individuals to make sure that they are able to perform the jobs as required. It is an amazing program that does so much good for the local community and I'm thrilled and excited to be a part of it!

It's a job where I will feel like what I'm doing with my life matters, will have purpose, instead of feeling like I'm wasting away in an office or in yet another retail environment. Add to that the full state government benefits and I'm just blown away. I'm not even entirely sure of what the final pay will be. I really don't care, it'll be enough for me I'm sure and the benefits are icing on the cake.

Thanks for all the help and words of encouragement guys. It truly means a lot to me!
 

KingSlime

Member
Tell me about it, I finally got a call from the job I have been wanting for months. Had a fantastic interview where I was told I was going to be hired. Did my background check paperwork last Thursday and still waiting on a call back. I fell like I'm going to come out of my skin.

I'm in a very similar boat. Went for my first interview the other week, then a second interview a week ago Monday, at which point they said they are happy to offer me the job. Some following up in the meantime about reference checks, and I am waiting to have my formal offer from HR. Last I have heard from them was last Thursday. Though, one of my primary references was out of the office until this Monday, so I am assuming they held off to speak with him until then. Feels nervous though man. Does this sound like a normal timeline? Should I follow up at all?
 
Well, i just got 3 e-mails in the course of an hour that i didn´t get the jobs i applied for.

The worst thing though is, that in one it was saying something along the lines like. "Hey thanks for applying, the company really liked your application and was forwarded past the first round" - at which point i´m hyped, only to read further - "but lol sorry"

ugh.
 

sub_o

Member
Tell me about it, I finally got a call from the job I have been wanting for months. Had a fantastic interview where I was told I was going to be hired. Did my background check paperwork last Thursday and still waiting on a call back. I fell like I'm going to come out of my skin.

I finally got mine few days ago. The recruiter promised me that I will get the news in a week, but somehow she was not in office (probably due to emergency or something scheduled in advance). She phoned me after 2 weeks and give me an offer that falls within my range. And considering that I'm a foreigner here, exchange rates mean that I will be earning more than my peers back in my hometown.

I like bad news more than no news. A straightforward "You're not qualified", is way better than no news.

It's a great hi-tech company, while I don't want to say much about it, it has a working X-ray machine at the office. But, it's a tech German company. It also has great benefits and employee's welfare.

Also during interview I had great chemistry with everyone. I didn't prepare a lot for the interview, just the bare necessity, be honest and humble, I say I don't know when I don't know, and I say what I know when I know, don't overuse jargons, and just say things as it is. I tried to make the whole interview as light-hearted as possible, joked about how I have no sense of rhythm while playing guitar.

Also I have website that shows my portfolios, so probably that helped in getting shortlisted.

Now I just want to work hard for the people there. They give me vibes of capable but very kind people. Kinda feel indebted.
 

Hindle

Banned
It does slowly destroy you if you let it. The thing is, you have to keep looking no matter what, because as soon as you stop, depression sets in and you'll spend a while not doing anything.

My advice is to do sessions, take a day of from looking, and maybe take up running. All these will help you in the fight.
 

?oe?oe

Member
I had some bad experiences. I had an interview with a PA once for a job in an industry I enjoyed and the position fitted me perfectly. The interview went for about 45 minutes, it was for a Marketing Officer position and they needed someone to help get their company to the next step. I asked if they had any strategies and they had nothing, so I detailed what we needed to do (not exactly, just plan wise, I had contacts I could use etc). She was really impressed and she said she would organised a second interview with the director a couple days later and send me an email that night.

I didn't get that email. So I emailed her, got no response. I called and the receptionist said she'll pass on the details. A week later after going through their blog, I find out the PA who interviewed me was leaving the company. Never heard from them again.

What's strange though is their facebook likes decreased from like 8000 to 7200 in that period. Just strange.
 

Apt101

Member
This thread reminds me of a friend. He spent months trying to get an IT job, any IT job. He ekpt being told he was overqualified, or didn't have enough education, etc. He's good, I've worked with him, graduated from a technical school and knows his stuff.

Anyway, he finally lands a series of interviews with a company that deals mostly in cloud tech. After the fourth interview, the final in a grueling process, he's hired. They pay for his moving expenses and all. He flies out happy as can be and begins to get settled. In five days they lay him off, saying it was a budgeting mistake. But, they offer him 20% less pay to stay on in the same role. He didn't have a choice. Now he's beating the streets looking for a new job while still working there.
 
Applied for a dream job opportunity about 6 wks ago and found out that I have an interview Tom @ 10am. It's for a Lab technician in an academic setting. Dream job as it's relevant to my primary degree, well paid and in my home town. These jobs never come up. Nervous as its a panel interview of 4 people. They want lab experience but I only have experience through my degree and MSc, no industry experience. I also forget a lot of what I covered during my degree so shitting myself regarding any technical questions that will come up.
Would be so sweet if I got this!
 

JoeNut

Member
So just a little positive for people who are down, i have just got a great job, been here since last week and really enjoying it. i applied through Monster (it's probably only english) and the company got back to me direct, big pay rise and company car.

I really think having a well put together CV helped me, and i'd advise anyone who is just mailing out CV's to anyone and everyone to get a second opinion on what your CV looks like and how it can be improved.
 

oni_saru

Member
I'd accept the part-time job for now, but if the full-time job comes back with a job offer then tell the company that offered you the part-time job that something better for yourself came up.

i'm glad to hear Superman pose helped you. After trying it myself awhile back when job hunting I'm a true believer now.

Re: Your job offer ...

Thank you two for the advice. I did respond to the email on Tuesday letting them know I was interested in accepting. I got a call from the HR person with great news this morning! One thing I forgot to mention was that both the part time and full time positions i applied to were with the same company just different team and different building. It's a research position. The part time was for data collection and the full time was for research assistant.

Well today when I get the call, turns out that I was approved for the full time. So in the call they asked me to choose which one I wanted to get. The lady told me they were still working on the offer for me. However she said that in case I was not okay with the payment offer for the full time, that I could stay accept the part time one. She said it was a good thing that I got accepted to both.

So now I'm just waiting for the full time offer. I kind of feel bad about the part time one since I really liked the team that interviewed me. However ultimately the full time benefits me the most.
 

Magnus

Member
When you guys send out resumes from email does it matter if it's an rtf file or docx?

I always go PDF. Can't possibly risk the mucking around of your carefully formatted resume by any intermediate parties or filtering software between you and the ultimate hiring manager/director.

Even if they just open it up with a different program or a different version of Word, you risk things looking different on their screen than you intended.

PDF locks it in, and everyone's got Acrobat, Reader or whatever.
 

Garruson

Member
I just finished my previous 4 month long job after being promoted 3 times, had a day break, decided to get another job, wrote my cv that day handed it into the store, got an interview the day after that, went to the interview, got the job on the spot!

3 jobs applied for, 3 jobs got
3 interviews had, 3 jobs got

100% bitches!
 

Blablurn

Member
Got my first job interview ever next tuesday. Any special advice? I know the general facts so far. Maybe anyone got some super help? :D
 

Garruson

Member
Got my first job interview ever next tuesday. Any special advice? I know the general facts so far. Maybe anyone got some super help? :D

My general rule of thumb is if they don't wear suits whilst working don't wear a suit to the interview.

Be enthusiastic and talk to the person, give a firm handshake, be prepared to ask your own questions etc.
 

Downhome

Member
My orientation is Tuesday at 10am, I can't wait. The HR lady still hasn't called me back to discuss all of the details of benefits and everything, but that's fine. I'll know soon enough.

I just stumbled upon this article about the unemployed...

http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/22/news/economy/long-term-umemployment-survey/

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
More than 20% of workers laid off in the last five years haven't found new jobs, according to a Rutgers University survey released Monday.

That's about the same proportion of people who said they had been laid off in that time, and it illustrates how difficult the recovery has been for the unemployed.

Among laid-off Americans who say they've found a new job, 46% said it came with a pay cut and 44% reported a drop in status.

The survey also found increasing pessimism among the unemployed. Thirty-six percent said the economy will never fully recover from the recession, up from 29% last January, when they were asked the same question. Likewise, 40% said that the availability of good jobs for those who want to work will never return to pre-recession levels, up from 34%.

One in three unemployed respondents said they've been looking for a job for more than seven months. The survey defines long-term unemployed as someone who has been looking for a job for more than six months.

The Rutgers team talked to 1,153 workers, about a quarter of whom were unemployed for more than six months, between July 24 and early August.

The results also paint a demographic picture of the unemployed.

The typical out of work person is likely to be a southern white male between 18 and 29 with a high school degree who makes less than $30,000.

A typical long-term unemployed person is also likely a white male with a high school degree from the South who makes less than $30,000 a year. But the long term unemployed tend to be older, normally between 45 and 59.

Also this, since it goes along with the title of this thread...

The unemployed psyche: Job searching for so long crushed my soul

My wife and I just bought our first house last September. When the owner of the retail establishment I managed decided to close the doors back in April, leaving me without a job, it scared the crap out of me. Well, not so much at first really to be honest. I had two opportunities at the very start that were presented to me from people we worked with and knew through the store. I wont go into details, but lets just say that both ended up screwing me in a huge way, scams pretty much and taking advantage of me since they knew I would likely be all in since I was losing my job and needed something very quickly. It led to me trusting people even less than I already do. I hope, in time, I can repair what they did to my trust of others.

But yeah, finding a new job wasn't as easy as I thought it would be and it scared me, and my wife. As the weeks came and went, then the months, even we felt the pressure and the stress of not being able to find a new job. It affected every aspect of our lives, but thank God we were able to keep that in check and not let it destroy us. I can't imagine what people feel, what they go through, as the months turns into years. I don't understand how people can go on, even live a life, not being able to find work. How some people just "give up" and drop out of the workforce all together. What do people do? Friends? Family? Assistance? I just can't understand that. I was out of work for just over five months and I was ready to go freakin' insane.

It's a shame that we as a people allow employment define us as it does, to truly control all aspects of our lives in a way. Then when you find a job, that one thing of working again, it can make all other aspects of life seem better. It's really sick when you think about it, how that job affects us all in such a great way. I'm thrilled I have found work, but a part of me is sick at how happy that one thing made me and how it seemed to solve so many problems at the drop of a hat. Then to think that it can all go to crap once again, the process could start all over, if I or anyone else who currently has a job, gets stuck in that same "looking for work" situation once again. Blah.

It goes without saying why it's so important, but still, a part of me just thinks it's sad. It's even harder for those who seemingly have less options than others.

Stay strong everyone, try to keep as positive outlook as possible. In the long run we're all in this together.
 

Magnus

Member
Someone grant me the patience as I wait for a big call this morning. I'm so excited, nervous and antsy. But mostly, excited.
 

Loxley

Member
So, I'm applying a for a basic sales position right now for my local Best Buy, and they make you write a cover letter during the application process. A freaking cover letter for an entry level retail job at Best Buy. What a messed-up world we live in.

For all I know they've always required you to do this, but it strikes me as baffling.
 

nikos

Member
Reading this thread reminded me what it's like trying to find a job. Landed this position at the end of May and I'm pretty much on my last legs here. I'm either going to get fired or quit, whichever comes first. I've already mentally checked out.

Seemed like a decent place at first. Then I realized that my boss is playing us all like it's The Sims. Non-stop monitoring and micromanaging. Security cameras everywhere, fingerprint scans at the doors, people always looking over your shoulders, no phones allowed at the desk, no headphones etc. She's also very condescending towards employees. Should have realized she couldn't care less about us from the beginning, as she doesn't offer health insurance and has us work 9-6, with one hour unpaid lunch, so that we still get eight hours per day in.

Just thinking about this has me wanting to walk out today. I've already started a new job hunt a couple of days ago.

Sorry about that rant, not sure if it belongs here.
 

flyover

Member
Someone grant me the patience as I wait for a big call this morning. I'm so excited, nervous and antsy. But mostly, excited.
Good luck! It sounds like you did well, so be proud, no matter what happens.

So, I'm applying a for a basic sales position right now for my local Best Buy, and they make you write a cover letter during the application process. A freaking cover letter for an entry level retail job at Best Buy. What a messed-up world we live in.
That is insane.
 

DyTonic

Banned
I'm annoyed why is that an interview can go so well, but you have to wait two weeks for a response. It's like corporate world is a different ball game as oppose to regular 9-5. I know I am qualified for it and the salary I told him 40k-48k which is entry level in my opinion, I make 35k without my degree.

I also am not sure about another job offer I have where they aren't hiring, but instead want to hear about my technical skills are create a job around them.
 

ATF487

Member
Just got a call saying that I'm going to get a job offer for an internal position I interviewed for last Friday, but I might get boned on the salary. Although it's a much better role with more responsibility (and one where my skills could actually translate out of my industry), I'm technically already in the same pay level. I thought I was applying for a job in a pay level above my current one but apparently they made an error in the job posting. It sounds right though since all the other jobs for that higher pay level require 4 years of experience and this job only requires 2.

It's just annoying because I got a "promotion" where I was recognized for being different than some of the other kids they bring in, but it didn't change my role really, and the monetary increase was only 20 bucks a week (and would have been given to me anyway, only as a cost of living increase instead.) The pay grades have salary ranges and I'm close to the minimum end of it. Currently I'm thinking that it might be hard to get a decent increase without moving up a level, so my earlier promotion could hurt me more than it helped. I think long term it'd be better for me to take the job, even if they lock me into my current salary for another two years, but I'd be bummed considering how much more work I'd be doing

Sorry if this sounds insensitive, I'm happy to be employed and well regarded (for reasons I'm not sure I understand) but I've had a harder time saving any money after I moved apartments :(
 

Pastry

Banned
Just got an e-mail didn't get the job I had interviewed for. Honestly feel like I'm never going to get my career started :/ bleh
 

Pastry

Banned
Honestly how did you feel the interview went?

I think it was a pretty good interview, it was strange though because it was absolutely identical to the previous interview I had with HR. The only reason I can think I wasn't considered was because I've never used any ERP systems but HR had previously said they were willing to train.
 

DyTonic

Banned
Tbh I take it upon myself to research softwares(crm,erp,wms)) etc before I go in or just have that knowledge so I can throw it out there. I don't want myself to be clueless and last interview, I told the IT director I knew of SAP and each modules etc.. I guess making myself seem aware is best.

They probably had a best candidate, but it pisses me off when they lead you on.
 

Liberty4all

Banned
How hard is it to get a job at SCEA if you don't mind my asking? I recently applied for a SysAdmin position at their San Mateo office but the LinkedIn page showed that the competition was pretty intense and, despite attempts to contact them further, I've received no response.

At the same time I am on my 3rd interview tomorrow at the EA games HQ in redwood. A good chunk of this, and any other position application I guess, was some networking and getting to know some of the QA guys down in Emeryville.

So I guess my other question would be, what are some good ways to network with people at SCEA. I figure being located more in the south bay and frequenting the shops and whatnot will help, but I was wondering if you had any inside advice. Meeting other military members in a company has ended up helping my network as well.

As a PlayStation MVP, I don't actually work "for" SCEA although I do work "with" them.. The MVP program consists of enthusiast roles. MVP's hold alot of different community type roles mostly on the PlayStation forums. I suppose my niche is somewhat unique in that I communicate GAF issues/concerns to SCEA Community Management at SCEA as well as some management at both SCEE and SCEC.

As for working at SCEA itself, I get the impression that there is a lot of competition for positions with the company. Networking might be a good start, I'd also keep a sharp eye on their LinkedIn page for updated job postings.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
Well ladies and gents, i'll be subbing to this thread and reading through it over the next few weeks. Making a big move from PA to CA, need to start the job searching process. Yuck.

So far I entered my resume on a few sites online (Monster, Indeed, Careerbuilder) and with a few staffing agencies for IT work in San Francisco. Anyone in the SF area have any advice on additional resources?
 

Ultimadrago

Member
I've recently gotten into the job hunting game myself and it's just as the title said. Just got the no-go from a job I was interested in and interviewed for last week. The interview went well too. The interviewer even told me it was a great interview before I departed! But for some reason I knew I wasn't going to get it after that.

I just came from one this morning as well, but it didn't go so hot. The interviewer was rather rude as she not only asked me if I had applied to other places, but also if they called me back. "None of your fucking business, cunt." (is what I thought). I found roundabouts to the questioning, but it hardly spared me. Anyways, back to applying.
 

wario

Member
Well ladies and gents, i'll be subbing to this thread and reading through it over the next few weeks. Making a big move from PA to CA, need to start the job searching process. Yuck.

So far I entered my resume on a few sites online (Monster, Indeed, Careerbuilder) and with a few staffing agencies for IT work in San Francisco. Anyone in the SF area have any advice on additional resources?

I live in the bay area and currently looking for work in the tech industry.

of all the job search websites i put profiles on, my resume has gotten the most hits on http://www.dice.com/

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/ and http://www.indeed.com/ are also good places to search for jobs.
 

DyTonic

Banned
Nothing is wrong with checking Craigslist, just keep in mind the pay is always below industry average. Indeed is what I mostly use tbh, or just companies I know of already.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
Nothing is wrong with checking Craigslist, just keep in mind the pay is always below industry average. Indeed is what I mostly use tbh, or just companies I know of already.
I've used indeed to no avail. There's a lot of scams on Craig's but I usually always gets reply back and you're correct about them being lower than industry standards.
 

flyover

Member
I live in the bay area and currently looking for work in the tech industry.

of all the job search websites i put profiles on, my resume has gotten the most hits on http://www.dice.com/
Dunno how it is in other areas (or for other tech positions), but in Chicago, recruiters are crawling over each other to contact developers. If you have a couple of the skills to make it through their tech keyword meat grinder, you're likely to get at least a few emails a week.

Unfortunately, it's often for the same position. I think I've had a dozen separate recruiters ask me if I'm interested in joining an exciting team working with groundbreaking technologies at... Sears.
 

Mupod

Member
Dunno how it is in other areas (or for other tech positions), but in Chicago, recruiters are crawling over each other to contact developers. If you have a couple of the skills to make it through their tech keyword meat grinder, you're likely to get at least a few emails a week.

Unfortunately, it's often for the same position. I think I've had a dozen separate recruiters ask me if I'm interested in joining an exciting team working with groundbreaking technologies at... Sears.

With an entirely networking/windows server-focused resume I was getting people hounding me for software developer jobs (toronto). I even got called in for an interview, given an outline for a position that sounded like your typical helpdesk kind of job, then when I got there they started asking me all kinds of programming questions. Turns out their recruiter was just completely clueless and was sending random nonsense out to anyone with a resume that looked vaguely computer related.

Like, shit, gimme HER job, I'll do it better.
 

Downhome

Member
So, I'm applying a for a basic sales position right now for my local Best Buy, and they make you write a cover letter during the application process. A freaking cover letter for an entry level retail job at Best Buy. What a messed-up world we live in.

For all I know they've always required you to do this, but it strikes me as baffling.

Man, that sort of thing ticks me off.

Places like that, retail, they seem to put you through more crap than even what way better jobs and places do. It's insane. I get pissed off just thinking about it.

Let me ask you guys a question, if you even have an answer for this one...

For a job with full state benefits - insurance, retirement, vacation, sick days, and all of that good stuff, is there a way to get a ballpark of what all of that can amount to in order to get a true concept of what your "pay" will be? Is there some sort of standard or is it just all depending upon this and that?
 

Koppai

Member
I had a really good interview and the two people seemed impressed with me and my resume. I did not even feel nervous and they even mentioned that I was the only one they called because of my resume. And the first person they called. I hope they choose me for the position, I really need to get a good job to start working my way up in again. Also my dog just had to go to the vet as he escaped the other day and got injured :(

"The typical out of work person is likely to be a southern white male between 18 and 29 with a high school degree who makes less than $30,000.

A typical long-term unemployed person is also likely a white male with a high school degree from the South who makes less than $30,000 a year. But the long term unemployed tend to be older, normally between 45 and 59."

Wow so I'm a statistic according to this article. At my last job I made a bit over $2000 a month before taxes and benefits. But I fucked that job up so I guess I deserve to struggle.
 
Nothing is wrong with checking Craigslist, just keep in mind the pay is always below industry average. Indeed is what I mostly use tbh, or just companies I know of already.

I've seen some pretty high pay on craigslist, i guess it depends. They have a weird code email that makes me wonder if my emails are reaching the companies,when you click reply and then there is an email that looks unusual with numbers. Is it ok if i just send my resume or should i type some text in?
 

Corgi

Banned
lol wtf, 15min phone interview on monday, job on tuesday. If I didn't know people that worked at this place, i'd call bullshit.


Wonder what I should be talking about/asking in a 15min interview... thats barely time for introductions.

Also not great that i dont even really know what the job is. All i got was a vague "java developer" and typical requirements and skills.
 
lol wtf, 15min phone interview on monday, job on tuesday. If I didn't know people that worked at this place, i'd call bullshit.


Wonder what I should be talking about/asking in a 15min interview... thats barely time for introductions.

Also not great that i dont even really know what the job is. All i got was a vague "java developer" and typical requirements and skills.

You should be happy it wont take long,some have insane 1-2 hour interviews. I am sure they will tell you what the specifics are in the interview.
 
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