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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

entremet

Member
LinkedIn continues to impress.

Got two recruitment emails today. I'm fine where I'm at, but they're nice to get. Bone up your profiles, brehs.

Best,
 

scitek

Member
I sent an email to the recruiter saying I'm just checking in after a week and asking if he knows yet what's next. Every email in my inbox scares me now.
 
Hey gaf I'm trying to get into digital marketing more specifically social media marketing I'm having a hard time creating a portfolio any info as to how to get my foot in the door is much appreciated thanks
 

entremet

Member
How would you bone up your profile?

Go on private mode
Check out profiles of people in your field
Take screenshots of those profiles so you don't have visit them again--You can save these Evernote or OneNote. That's what I do.
Take notes on how they present, write, and sell themselves on LinkedIn.

I'm not talking about plagiarism, but seeing a few profiles should give an idea on how to better improve yours.

Do you have a regular or premium account?

Premium.
 

gwailo

Banned
One thing I would suggest is showing how you have/did contribute positively to your current/former employers. Like don't just say "I use Excel to create tables" say something like "employed Excel to create reports that highlighted gaps in our sales process that increased total revenue by 6% in the second quarter 2016". If you just want to list skills or software you can use, there are spaces on the profile you can do that - but a lot of other people will also have those skills - you really need to separate yourself from the pack.
 

entremet

Member
Hey gaf I'm trying to get into digital marketing more specifically social media marketing I'm having a hard time creating a portfolio any info as to how to get my foot in the door is much appreciated thanks

Work for free or volunteer. Many non-profits would love these services.

That's how most people build their portfolios.

Also are you on social media now--Do you have a blog? YT channel? etc. You need a place where you can show thought leadership.
 
So after roughly 800 days of job-searching, I seem to have a new job, having gone through an interview and an assessment center these last few days. It's been hard, hellishly painful, and this new job has nothing to do with my experience and degrees, the pay is significantly lower, but I received the email today. It's not an offer yet, as they want to do a background check etc. first, which will not be a problem, as there's nothing shady in my past.

Yet I welcomed the news in sadness and iciness, and I haven't allowed myself to feel happy. I've had so many "negative" emotions, after going from rejection to rejection and from hardship to hardship these last 2,5 years. I've been left feeling like a piece of trash for so long, it's hard to feel any better now.
 

scitek

Member
No response today. I'm moving on. If they get back to me I'll just be pleasantly surprised. I saw Bungie has an opening on their video production team, so I went ahead and applied there.
 

entremet

Member
So after roughly 800 days of job-searching, I seem to have a new job, having gone through an interview and an assessment center these last few days. It's been hard, hellishly painful, and this new job has nothing to do with my experience and degrees, the pay is significantly lower, but I received the email today. It's not an offer yet, as they want to do a background check etc. first, which will not be a problem, as there's nothing shady in my past.

Yet I welcomed the news in sadness and iciness, and I haven't allowed myself to feel happy. I've had so many "negative" emotions, after going from rejection to rejection and from hardship to hardship these last 2,5 years. I've been left feeling like a piece of trash for so long, it's hard to feel any better now.

You were out of the job market for 2.5 years--not even part time work?

If so, wow. Health issues?
 

Charcoal

Member
So I'm trying to get a part time job at my college, and I have a quick question, gaf. There's 3 jobs that I want to apply for, should I apply for one at a time and wait for a response, or submit my resume to all three at once and hope for the best?
 
So I'm trying to get a part time job at my college, and I have a quick question, gaf. There's 3 jobs that I want to apply for, should I apply for one at a time and wait for a response, or submit my resume to all three at once and hope for the best?

All at once. Its always better to have multiple options than relying on one job that may fall through. If that happens the other places may have hired someone else before you can get in.
 
So after roughly 800 days of job-searching, I seem to have a new job, having gone through an interview and an assessment center these last few days. It's been hard, hellishly painful, and this new job has nothing to do with my experience and degrees, the pay is significantly lower, but I received the email today. It's not an offer yet, as they want to do a background check etc. first, which will not be a problem, as there's nothing shady in my past.

Yet I welcomed the news in sadness and iciness, and I haven't allowed myself to feel happy. I've had so many "negative" emotions, after going from rejection to rejection and from hardship to hardship these last 2,5 years. I've been left feeling like a piece of trash for so long, it's hard to feel any better now.

Well if anything when you keep trying to get back onto your desired career path it will look a lot better now that you're employed. Even if it's not the job you wanted, remember it's not forever and you can keep working towards your goal.

I have some good memories and friends leftover from jobs that I hated to be honest. Make the best of it.
 
So that company just emailed me telling me I won't be considered for the position I interviewed for last week. Not surprising since I completely bombed the whole thing. Ugh.
 

gaugebozo

Member
Man, companies with their asshole auto-responses for denying someone a job without explaining why can suck the big one... Two denies in one day, and neither explained jack about why I wasn't a good fit. Sucks even more that one of them seemed almost like a done deal because the telephone conference with their recruiter went extremely well in my opinion. I've been waiting for weeks for a response from them due to vacations, and now, nothing. I fucking hate it when they demand the most super advanced and detailed perfect resume and cover letter, but they're all allowed to just send shit mails back that tell you nothing on how to improve or what went wrong... We all spend so damn much time perfecting our resumes for nothing, it seems.

This is terrible, but I hate late/no replies even more. I'm currently waiting for responses from four applications, and the most recent one I applied to was Monday. You spend all this time polishing everything, and they can just ignore it.
 
No response today. I'm moving on. If they get back to me I'll just be pleasantly surprised. I saw Bungie has an opening on their video production team, so I went ahead and applied there.

Make sure you aren't stopping applying for jobs while waiting. It's a bad habit I even did but fixed it.
 

ThornDust

Neo Member
Hey guys. Just graduated last June and I already feel like a piece of trash for not getting a job. :| I graduated from a top university and almost everyone I know already have jobs. Man, it sucks to have a liberal arts degree...
 
Hey guys. Just graduated last June and I already feel like a piece of trash for not getting a job. :| I graduated from a top university and almost everyone I know already have jobs. Man, it sucks to have a liberal arts degree...

Liberal Arts? Is that a two year degree? I don't mean to sound rude, but what is the area of focus with that?
 
Hey guys. Just graduated last June and I already feel like a piece of trash for not getting a job. :| I graduated from a top university and almost everyone I know already have jobs. Man, it sucks to have a liberal arts degree...

Degree doesn't mean nothing, experience is the most important so try and get a foot in the door. Did you do internships while in school? Try to get some of those and slowly build that experience. What is your field?
 
Nearly at the finish line for landing a nice entry-level position. Background check information has been sent. I'm taking a drug test on Monday.

Will heavy student loan debt screw me out of a job where I'm NOT going to be handling money? It's the final thing that I'm truly concerned about (I don't take drugs nor do I have any arrest or crim convictions).
 

malfcn

Member
I am at the point of searching again. Things were briefly better, but same rut.

I am a manager and we just had a lot of turn over due to the last manager. Half the people are good, half are bad. They are opening up another location soon. So we are in store manager limbo, and staffing two locations while being told to train new people and cut hours.

I never get anything done because payroll is cut and coverage is minimum. Or, I have to deal with customer and partner complaints and constantly do paperwork. I don't feel productive when I have plenty of things to do and can't do them because of other things.
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
You were right. It's one of those jobs where you're selling Direct TV subs to people in Walmart and other stores. Had my second interview with them this week. I told them no once they finally got up front about everything. Going to report them to Glassdoor since they're being incredibly vague and misleading.
They say they pay $35k-$40k w+ commission when in reality it's $26,000 + commission, no vacation time, and you get holidays off if the retailer is closed.

This is one of these "event marketing" jobs. Ignore any job/company website that uses that term. They make it very hard to find entry level jobs because searching for the term "entry level" typically will result in a lot of jobs like that coming up.
 

ThornDust

Neo Member
Liberal Arts? Is that a two year degree? I don't mean to sound rude, but what is the area of focus with that?

Degree doesn't mean nothing, experience is the most important so try and get a foot in the door. Did you do internships while in school? Try to get some of those and slowly build that experience. What is your field?

It's a 4-year degree and my field is social sciences haha Yeah, I did internships while in school... I thought more about this and I think the reason why employers don't hire me is because of the way I am during interviews? I toned down my nerves and I rarely stutter now but I still need tips. :| *sigh*
 

Crosseyes

Banned
Ugh. I got fired recently and at least my job search has gone quite well, already one interview gone through that lined up perfectly with my experience.

Downside is my old employer has gone full antagonistic and is denying me my unemployment. I didn't dislike anyone there that I really worked with but disputing my claim after firing me for quality and performance reasons that I very much worked hard to try and improve really pisses me off.

How badly this could effect me and my wife if I do stay unemployed for a long period feels so personal and aggravating. Makes me wish a shooter would pay their management a visit. Cunts.
 
Ugh. I got fired recently and at least my job search has gone quite well, already one interview gone through that lined up perfectly with my experience.

Downside is my old employer has gone full antagonistic and is denying me my unemployment. I didn't dislike anyone there that I really worked with but disputing my claim after firing me for quality and performance reasons that I very much worked hard to try and improve really pisses me off.

How badly this could effect me and my wife if I do stay unemployed for a long period feels so personal and aggravating. Makes me wish a shooter would pay their management a visit. Cunts.

bruh.......just no.......
 

jwk94

Member
Ugh. I got fired recently and at least my job search has gone quite well, already one interview gone through that lined up perfectly with my experience.

Downside is my old employer has gone full antagonistic and is denying me my unemployment. I didn't dislike anyone there that I really worked with but disputing my claim after firing me for quality and performance reasons that I very much worked hard to try and improve really pisses me off.

How badly this could effect me and my wife if I do stay unemployed for a long period feels so personal and aggravating. Makes me wish a shooter would pay their management a visit. Cunts.

What's unemployment?
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
I was looking at some "assistant brand manager" jobs on indeed.com which I applied to a lot around a year ago. Oddly, it seems almost all the same companies I saw before are still listed. Smuckers, Energizer, Hillshire. Hillshire and Time even has some sponsored posts. (For the same job, "Assistant brand manager")

I really find it hard to believe that the turnover rate or demand is so high for these college grad level jobs. Looking up the Hillshire job on linkedin, it has 103 applicants. Time's has 255. So if anything these jobs have an excess of supply. Most business roles I see only have around 15-50 applicants on average.

So why are they all still looking a year later??? No one was qualified for a borderline entry level job out of 255+ applicants? Energizer which only makes batteries needs dozens of assistant brand managers? They only have two brands! Are these just fake posts for non-existent roles?
 
Was told by one friend to put my resume up on indeed to get a job. Even applied for a few ones on there. Nada. Just getting emails about "job potentials for people with 5 years of experience in micro biology" and shit.

Other friend tells me he posted his resume to the website and got emails within the hour and had a job by the end of the day, and he kept getting emails from people wanting him to work for em.. :/
 

Sylas

Member
I was looking at some "assistant brand manager" jobs on indeed.com which I applied to a lot around a year ago. Oddly, it seems almost all the same companies I saw before are still listed. Smuckers, Energizer, Hillshire. Hillshire and Time even has some sponsored posts. (For the same job, "Assistant brand manager")

I really find it hard to believe that the turnover rate or demand is so high for these college grad level jobs. Looking up the Hillshire job on linkedin, it has 103 applicants. Time's has 255. So if anything these jobs have an excess of supply. Most business roles I see only have around 15-50 applicants on average.

So why are they all still looking a year later??? No one was qualified for a borderline entry level job out of 255+ applicants? Energizer which only makes batteries needs dozens of assistant brand managers? They only have two brands! Are these just fake posts for non-existent roles?

High turnover rate. Not necessarily a bad thing--some of those roles (especially at the places you listed) can lead to better jobs at other places.
 
Was told by one friend to put my resume up on indeed to get a job. Even applied for a few ones on there. Nada. Just getting emails about "job potentials for people with 5 years of experience in micro biology" and shit.

Other friend tells me he posted his resume to the website and got emails within the hour and had a job by the end of the day, and he kept getting emails from people wanting him to work for em.. :/

You may have to, you know, put forth some effort instead of just putting a resume up and applying for "a few" jobs. Don't compare your situation to your friend, as there could be tons of other factors. Put in that work, son.
 

Aegus

Member
So was asked by my previous BD manager to put forward my name for an analyst role similar to my current role with the new company he's with. I put forward my expectation of salary and notice period date and then didn't hear anything for a few weeks.

During that time my current company has approached me to be with a staff position and the likelihood of promotion to a consultant level position.

And now company #1 has came back asking for my availability for an interview.

Part of me says I should go for the interview and see what happens, the other part says stay where I am. This would be the 2nd time I've left my current company to see if the grass is greener.

I do good work where I am and I know my shit.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
So I volunteer for Hillary, is it a good idea to add that experience under volunteering to my LinkedIn?. I'm a software developer. I'm thinking it's a good idea but only worried about adding it since it is politics.
 
I have some good news! I have a provisional offer with the HMRC on condition I pass pre-employment checks. Has anyone else been through the process and can tell me how long i'll have to wait to get a formal offer?

Thank you to everybody and their advice!
 

Minamu

Member
Seems most people at my work want to quit, or already have, for various reasons. Odd feeling and mood at the office today.

Got a response from a company today that I've applied to before. They had an old position still up (or back up again, not sure) and I just wanted to let them know that I'm still interested. The response I got was that yes, they are looking for several candidates and there's no need for me to send my resume back in again. But they will not be considering me for the position anyway. Sucks :( Lack of experience (I assume is the problem) is an impossible hump to get over, it seems.
 
So that company just emailed me telling me I won't be considered for the position I interviewed for last week. Not surprising since I completely bombed the whole thing. Ugh.

Me too, but I didn't bomb the interview (interview went for hours, and they liked my background). They found someone who fits the company better according to the recruiter. Anyway back to the grind, but I have one coming up soon. This one is even better than the last. Hopefully I impress them too and this time competition is not as crazy as the last :/
Keep at it everyone, I'm sure we'll all find something soon!
 
Degree doesn't mean nothing, experience is the most important so try and get a foot in the door. Did you do internships while in school? Try to get some of those and slowly build that experience. What is your field?

Before I joined the work force, not getting internships during my time in school was the worst decision I have ever made. I was working part time in school, but that had nothing to do with my degree or career. I advise everyone who is currently in school to do as many internships as you can. This will help you a lot!
 
Was told by one friend to put my resume up on indeed to get a job. Even applied for a few ones on there. Nada. Just getting emails about "job potentials for people with 5 years of experience in micro biology" and shit.

Other friend tells me he posted his resume to the website and got emails within the hour and had a job by the end of the day, and he kept getting emails from people wanting him to work for em.. :/

Did he have tons of experience? It can be a lot easier for people who are experienced, sometimes it even takes a little luck and perfect timing. The key is to remain positive and persistent and keep applying. Try some internships to get the foot in the door too, linkedIn, Meetups and work on personal projects if your field makes sense for that. Go all out and maximize your chances is what I am trying to say.
 

scitek

Member
I think I just got as much of an answer as I can expect.

Just noticed the company relisted the job on Friday with 3 positions still open. After a month-long process, they couldn't even send me a fuck off email?
 
I think I just got as much of an answer as I can expect.

Just noticed the company relisted the job on Friday with 3 positions still open. After a month-long process, they couldn't even send me a fuck off email?

Yeah they really don't care. The competition is fierce out there, only way to find out more is by emailing them yourself to see if the positions been filled. That's what I did to find out the interviews I've been to and usually they tell me right away if they went with someone else.
 

scitek

Member
Yeah they really don't care. The competition is fierce out there, only way to find out more is by emailing them yourself to see if the positions been filled. That's what I did to find out the interviews I've been to and usually they tell me right away if they went with someone else.

Well, I know it hasn't been filled, they reposted the same number of openings they've always had.

They had taken the posting down the week before last, but now it's back

EDIT: Speaking to my old boss, it may have just expired and they reposted it. There may still be hope.
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Should I maintain any hope of being hired by a company (former employer) when within a few hours of applying for a job they tell me that I didn't get the job but they were impressed enough they will consider me for other positions at the company if I am interested in possibly being hired for another positions?

During the interview they did emphasize that they wanted to fill at least 10 positions in a few weeks tops.
 

SOLDIER

Member
The Digital Court Reporter job is still going well, but I'm constantly thinking about what I want to do with a long-term career. Unfortunately I'm no closer to that answer than I was earlier.

One suggestion I got was to list out the things I would want out of a long-term job. After giving it some thought, I came up with some ideal (and hopefully realistic) perks I would want:

At least $50k USD or more, with potential for raises/promotions

2. Extended sitting versus standing: I'm flat-footed and would much prefer not being up on my feet all day

3. Not high volume, an office job where I can occasionally check the Internet/e-mail/decompress instead of being in a high-volume environment that drains me mentally

4. Creativity/Problem solving: basically a chance to put my own spin into the job, to work around a problem using my own methods. Something that makes me feel like I matter instead of just being a cog in a machine

5. A consistent schedule; no sudden calls for overtime or shift work. The one thing I would like consistency on is knowing when I clock in and out at all times

In short, something close to what I'm doing now, but with less repetition and an ability to come up with creative solutions/ideas on my own rather than having to follow a specific routine.

I don't know if I'm still shooting too high or not. If anyone's got any ideas please share them, I really want to narrow things down.
 

Magnus

Member
Reneging on a job offer, or leaving after 2-3 weeks is pretty much the worst, right?
I have an offer, but it's for a role that's not ideal for me and is low-paying to boot. I'm currently interviewing for others where the pay and role accountabilities should be better, and I'm feeling very confident about them. (but no offers there yet, of course)

You get people telling you "you'd be stupid not to take an offer if you don't have another one - just leave when you get the better offer!", but that doesn't account for burning bridges and tarnishing your reputation.

IUNNO

I'm not suffering/starving, so I'm not in a hurry to lock in any old job - I really want the next job to be a well-measured and well-considered decision and a place I stay for at least two years. I've rushed headlong into jobs before and it hasn't turned out well.
 
I'm in need of a part-time right now, and what I don't get is why they can't have a dedicated website that houses applicant information. This way, they need only send to the company the person is applying for. Constantly redoing these applications and inserting previous job information is killer.
 

scitek

Member
Well I did not get the job.

I guess I can reveal that it was with Nintendo. I'm pretty bummed, not only about being turned down, but by the fact I'm stuck at a job I absolutely hate.

Oh well, onwards and upwards.
 
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