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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

scitek

Member
This wait is going to kill me. I spent all weekend second-guessing every answer I gave in that interview Friday. My dad seems to think the manager wouldn't have spent an hour talking with me if he wasn't keen on hiring me, so I guess we'll see.

EDIT: They just got back to me. I have to make a sample trailer using assets they'll provide. Sounds like I passed the interview process. I guess it all comes down to this.
 
So at the museum I volunteer at they put out a call internally for resumes. They currently have candidates from last time hiring happened and now they opened the floor to volunteers. As this is an internal job hunt I have a much better chance than if this went public. However I don't have much experience. I graduated in 2014 with a history degree and have been working odd jobs since then including a gas station, a warehouse, and an insurance agency. Currently haven't had a job for three months. They posted 3 positions and the only one I qualify for is this one

The Development Coordinator, a title change may be to “Giving Specialist/Coordinator”, will be working on growing our current membership base. This base has been slipping in the past few years, however our attendance has been soaring. We need someone who has transferable skills that can help build this program and develop activities to engage membership. There are other situations that this position is involved, but membership is a key component to the job.

That's all I have to go off of. Since they're only looking at internal candidates I'm not worried about my resume so much as the cover letter which is where I'm going to make my case. That said I have no clue what to say. Wondering if anyone had any ideas.
 
The only interview I have is an automatic one for ups package handler. On glass door it looks like it could be a group tour. Also, I have to drive 70 miles round trip. :/
This wait is going to kill me. I spent all weekend second-guessing every answer I gave in that interview Friday. My dad seems to think the manager wouldn't have spent an hour talking with me if he wasn't keen on hiring me, so I guess we'll see.

EDIT: They just got back to me. I have to make a sample trailer using assets they'll provide. Sounds like I passed the interview process. I guess it all comes down to this.
Grats. Good luck on the sample trailer. :)
 
I have a video interview with my local library's IT team on Wednesday. Never done one with a video interview. I guess have whatever is behind me look nice (clean basically) and wear something nice. I assume at least the top half anyways? Funny, yesterday I was getting kind of depressed about no one getting back to me, so this feels good. Hell, I went through 6 different fucking tests to be able to even finish submitting the application for this job.
 
Has anyone ever made "fake" samples of work for the purpose of an interview?. An upcoming interview would like me to take in some campaign materials from a previous job but tbh those weren't the best so I'm thinking of making some from scratch...👀
 

zoukka

Member
Has anyone ever made "fake" samples of work for the purpose of an interview?. An upcoming interview would like me to take in some campaign materials from a previous job but tbh those weren't the best so I'm thinking of making some from scratch...👀

I wouldn't lie about my portfolio, but if you can make good examples of what you can do, then just say you did them in your own time for your portfolio!
 
Has anyone ever made "fake" samples of work for the purpose of an interview?. An upcoming interview would like me to take in some campaign materials from a previous job but tbh those weren't the best so I'm thinking of making some from scratch...👀

Yeah, that's called doing work on spec (i.e., not for actual use by a brand, etc.). Totally accepted in most industries.
 

RazMaTaz

Banned
I thought id way in with a few tips and tricks that has landed me a job quite easily (i am primarily from the UK so it could still be applicable else where).

* Your career choice - If you are applying for a job that is very niche (car design as an example), then you may want to start considering other career aspects. Look what is trending in the market at the moment and grind yourself to be well versed in that subject. Reason I say this is because I finished a degree related to property a few years back and it led to no jobs at all. I didnt want to waste time so i swapped career paths and did a masters in Computer Science. Upon completion, i managed to land my first role. To put things into perspective, I have had 3 interviews, 2 jobs I have secured. In relation to property, i had zero interviews for a year even though I got a first in my degree and had experience. Having a friend who I studied property with aswell, she is struggling so much, leading to her work only being contractual compared to permanent. Yes contracters do make more but thats only if you got regular work, unfortunately this is not the case.

* Your CV - Your CV should comprise of a summary, your academic certifications, your soft skills, technical skills, and your interpersonal skills. While your CV gives you a background of you, your cover letter should be specific to the job you are applying to. Sometimes the smallest of mistakes can cost you even being acknowledged by the interviewer so make sure you get your CV checked by someone. Can be from a freelance.

* Get a LinkedIn Account - Many companies are opting to getting info from their potential employees from LinkedIn. If you have "visual" skills such as making a game, video, this is the best place to put it, as compared to a CV with a "link". It doesnt look very pleasing on a CV, where as on a Linked In page, it does.

* Portfolio - If you are applying for a job, you want to impress. If you are applying for a gaming job for example, maybe show off your previous work in Unity 3D, and so forth. This can be your hobby work, uni work, and actual real work experience.

* Go Freelance - if your skill set is like programming, art, or similar, then why not go freelance to gain experience.

* Don't be nervous - Nervousness can be one key killer for an interview. The more you go to interviews, the less nervous you tend to be anyways. Make it a habit to practice with friends, and family. If you are nervous, ask them if you can use the toilet, wash your face, breathe, the interviewer is just a human, just like you, he/she breathes like you, talks like u, and was once like you too. You will go back with a better perspective.

* Research - If you got an interview date, then make sure you research the company, what they do, their revenue, their history.

* Do you know you? - One of the ice breakers at an interview is "so tell me about yourself". This is the golden opportunity to shine, in explaining your passions, your aspirations for the job, how your past experience makes this the perfect challenge. Always conclude with saying "....and thats why i want to work for this prestigious company".

* Do you have any questions - After the interview, the interviewer will ask if you have questions. I tend to side step this by saying "well firstly, i want to thank you for the opportunity, and I am genuinely very passionate about this role......" (sugar coat your skills to them). Then ask your questions, like what you expect to be doing in the first 6 months.

* Write a thank you letter - Upon completion of the interview, write a thank you letter expressing their time and commitment. Express again why you are perfect for the job.

* Not successful - Its not end of the world if you are not successful. Its also worth talking to the interviewer asking for feedback of why you were unsuccessful, and use that as an advantage point to learn.
 

scitek

Member
The only interview I have is an automatic one for ups package handler. On glass door it looks like it could be a group tour. Also, I have to drive 70 miles round trip. :/

Grats. Good luck on the sample trailer. :)

Thank you! I spent a few hours editing last night, and I think I might be done. It's a job that would require me to regularly turn over projects in a day, so I feel like spending all week on it when I've specifically been told they are judging me on efficiency would be counter-productive.

And I found out, if this goes well, NEXT come the in-person interviews.
 
Looks like I landed a CCTV security job for 10/hr. Better than nothing. :) filled out the app and got an interview and offer on the spot.
Thank you! I spent a few hours editing last night, and I think I might be done. It's a job that would require me to regularly turn over projects in a day, so I feel like spending all week on it when I've specifically been told they are judging me on efficiency would be counter-productive.

And I found out, if this goes well, NEXT come the in-person interviews.
Yer welcome homie! That's a good idea. Oh you haven't done in person interviews?
 
Has anyone ever made "fake" samples of work for the purpose of an interview?. An upcoming interview would like me to take in some campaign materials from a previous job but tbh those weren't the best so I'm thinking of making some from scratch...👀

I assume you mean a personal project? What field are you in? Definitely create your own projects to show them that you understand and can do the work.
 
I was contacted by a headhunter service yesterday, and they interviewed me today over skype. When they asked me 'Why would you want to leave your job' I honestly replied with "How much time do you have for me to explain?" I spent the next two hours explaining in detail all the issues I had with my job.

Did I do right, or did I blow it?
 
Two hours sounds a bit over the top... And in general I would say it's bad form to slag of on your former employer no matter how justified it is.
Then again the headhunter probably doesn't care he is just looking for new soldiers of fortune to hire out.
 
I was contacted by a headhunter service yesterday, and they interviewed me today over skype. When they asked me 'Why would you want to leave your job' I honestly replied with "How much time do you have for me to explain?" I spent the next two hours explaining in detail all the issues I had with my job.

Did I do right, or did I blow it?

Honestly, after that, I would never call you back. I wouldn't trust you to handle yourself and answer questions succinctly in an interview. Get that shit under control. I get it, you hate your job, and probably think that the detail is necessary. I bet 95% of it isn't.

Brevity is the soul of wit, and all that.
 
I was contacted by a headhunter service yesterday, and they interviewed me today over skype. When they asked me 'Why would you want to leave your job' I honestly replied with "How much time do you have for me to explain?" I spent the next two hours explaining in detail all the issues I had with my job.

Did I do right, or did I blow it?

yes, you quite possibly did blow it, I'm sorry to say.

You really shouldn't bad mouth your co-workers/former colleagues/ employers, etc. When they ask why you want to leave "you want to stretch yourself more, you want new challenges, etc." And keep it to a sentence. The minute you say that you want to leave for negative reasons, they'll want details and that's the trap.

I found during a prolonged period between full-time jobs that the minute you put a downer on the interviewer (in any way), or put the interviewer on the back foot (through an unexpected answer that makes them feel bad), you've lost.

As above posters have said, keep it brief. Waffling is another no no. Waffling negatively is insta-death.

The headhunter might continue with the process, but I'd bet not. Don't feel too bad, but learn from this moving forward.

tl;dr never complain about anything during an interview
 
I was contacted by a headhunter service yesterday, and they interviewed me today over skype. When they asked me 'Why would you want to leave your job' I honestly replied with "How much time do you have for me to explain?" I spent the next two hours explaining in detail all the issues I had with my job.

Did I do right, or did I blow it?
Ouch. Never bad mouth current or previous wmployer. Turn negatives in to positives, such as "I have no regrets during my tenure as I've broadened my experience, increased my skill sets etc.."

I'm sorry to say but you may have blown it. Hopefully not
 
Any of you guys do AutoCAD work? Do you have any suggestions on familiarizing one's self with more recent versions?

I've been out of CAD positions for years, due to circumstances, and I want to get back in. Unfortunately my lack of experience with versions newer than 2006 is a resume liability.
 

MC Safety

Member
I was contacted by a headhunter service yesterday, and they interviewed me today over skype. When they asked me 'Why would you want to leave your job' I honestly replied with "How much time do you have for me to explain?" I spent the next two hours explaining in detail all the issues I had with my job.

Did I do right, or did I blow it?

They listened to you rant for two hours? You should not be talking that long, or in that sort of detail, about your issues with your last employer.

I would imagine no headhunter worth a nickel would have listened for that long. And I can't envision a scenario in which you get a call back.

I would chalk this up to experience and move on.
 

Tuck

Member
I was contacted by a headhunter service yesterday, and they interviewed me today over skype. When they asked me 'Why would you want to leave your job' I honestly replied with "How much time do you have for me to explain?" I spent the next two hours explaining in detail all the issues I had with my job.

Did I do right, or did I blow it?

Uh, you should never bad mouth your current or former employer.
 
I was contacted by a headhunter service yesterday, and they interviewed me today over skype. When they asked me 'Why would you want to leave your job' I honestly replied with "How much time do you have for me to explain?" I spent the next two hours explaining in detail all the issues I had with my job.

Did I do right, or did I blow it?

Jesus dude. When they ask you this question, they're looking for an answer more akin to "I'd like to continue to expand my skill set in X direction" or "I feel like I've learned a ton here and want to continue to learn elsewhere." What you did was a huge no-no.
 
I assume you mean a personal project? What field are you in? Definitely create your own projects to show them that you understand and can do the work.

Digital Marketing. They want to see evidence of email marketing campaigns, however previous ones I did for my old job weren't the best and I was sort of held back from what I was capable of there. I've done some mockups and was going to pass them off as what I've done in my previous job, but I think I'll just be truthful.
 

Mr. F

Banned
What are people's positions on 'settling'?

I've been finding myself advancing further in application processes with positions I feel somewhat conflicted about, while the positions I'm excited for have been total dead ends. Generally speaking it's been a slow summer for hiring in my profession due to recruiters/teams being on holiday...

I'm trying to weigh working for something I'm not that excited about versus putting the time in to better my portfolio for the stuff I am excited for. Risk being prolonged unemployment, but for whatever reason I'm really nervous about 'losing time' in getting more experience in the field I'm gunning for. I also figure it's kind of a bad look to peace out of a job a few months in if something better happens to come along...

this sucks.
 

scitek

Member
What are people's positions on 'settling'?

I've been finding myself advancing further in application processes with positions I feel somewhat conflicted about, while the positions I'm excited for have been total dead ends. Generally speaking it's been a slow summer for hiring in my profession due to recruiters/teams being on holiday...

I'm trying to weigh working for something I'm not that excited about versus putting the time in to better my portfolio for the stuff I am excited for. Risk being prolonged unemployment, but for whatever reason I'm really nervous about 'losing time' in getting more experience in the field I'm gunning for. I also figure it's kind of a bad look to peace out of a job a few months in if something better happens to come along...

this sucks.

I don't think it's a bad look if you do it once, or if the reason you're doing it is because you keep leaving for what's clearly a better opportunity. Take me for example - I was at a job for 15 months, but left because I went from TV market 92 to 14. That's a huge jump and no one would hold it against me. Now, I could soon be leaving my current job after just 6 months, but this time it would be for an opportunity that most people I know wouldn't be able to turn down.

As long as it makes sense, or you only do it once, so it doesn't appear to be a trend, I think you're fine.

In the meantime, though, you need a job. I say take what you can get, then work on finding what you REALLY want in your own time. I'd still be stuck in market 92 if I had settled like a LOT of people I know.
 
Digital Marketing. They want to see evidence of email marketing campaigns, however previous ones I did for my old job weren't the best and I was sort of held back from what I was capable of there. I've done some mockups and was going to pass them off as what I've done in my previous job, but I think I'll just be truthful.
Yes definitely be truthful, no need to lie because if anything showing that you created your own personal projects helps. It shows that you are passionate about what you do. I am not far away from what you do as well. I do UI/UX Design but also have worked with digital marketing designing email templates, ad banners,etc. Do you have an online portfolio by any chance and where are you located at if you don't mind me asking?
 

daemonic

Banned
What are people's positions on 'settling'?

I've been finding myself advancing further in application processes with positions I feel somewhat conflicted about, while the positions I'm excited for have been total dead ends. Generally speaking it's been a slow summer for hiring in my profession due to recruiters/teams being on holiday...

I'm trying to weigh working for something I'm not that excited about versus putting the time in to better my portfolio for the stuff I am excited for. Risk being prolonged unemployment, but for whatever reason I'm really nervous about 'losing time' in getting more experience in the field I'm gunning for. I also figure it's kind of a bad look to peace out of a job a few months in if something better happens to come along...

this sucks.

It depends how much time off you can afford to take. I left my last job in January and it took approximately 7 months to find a position that was actually worth getting excited for. There were numerous ones throughout that period but I wasn't willing to settle until the 8 month mark. Fortunately I didn't have to resort to that but it came pretty close.
 

Ogodei

Member
So at the museum I volunteer at they put out a call internally for resumes. They currently have candidates from last time hiring happened and now they opened the floor to volunteers. As this is an internal job hunt I have a much better chance than if this went public. However I don't have much experience. I graduated in 2014 with a history degree and have been working odd jobs since then including a gas station, a warehouse, and an insurance agency. Currently haven't had a job for three months. They posted 3 positions and the only one I qualify for is this one



That's all I have to go off of. Since they're only looking at internal candidates I'm not worried about my resume so much as the cover letter which is where I'm going to make my case. That said I have no clue what to say. Wondering if anyone had any ideas.

Development = fundraising. That's the field i work in now. How healthy it is depends on whether the organization is desperate to raise money or is in a stable situation. The former leads to a hellish environment that's worse than high pressure sales: make your quota or you're out on the street. Better-established places still have the pressure of needing to keep the money flowing, but it's much lower pressures because there are established procedures for getting the money in and it's about taking a slower look at how to improve those procedures and build up organizational presence.

You could spin the gas station thing as front-end retail experience working with the public. That's what I did too (although I also got a Master's degree which partially focused in non-profit work).
 

MZZB

Neo Member
Any of you guys do AutoCAD work? Do you have any suggestions on familiarizing one's self with more recent versions?

I've been out of CAD positions for years, due to circumstances, and I want to get back in. Unfortunately my lack of experience with versions newer than 2006 is a resume liability.

The latest version I work in is Autocad 2014 and it is basically still the same, you can even change to use the old layout.

They don't really add or change the formula.
Worst thing, just watch a tutorial of a newer autocad to familiarise yourself again.
 

GusBus

Member
Hi GAF, I'm joining the huddled masses. I graduated college in May, did some traveling, and am now looking for work in NYC. How bout that humanities degree... :(
Actively applying to stuff in the publishing industry as well as paralegal jobs.

Real talk: it's astounding how many brilliant people here are working in the service industry. There's so much human capital "wasted" as baristas or bartenders, simply because these folks didn't feel like getting an MBA, a law degree, or learning to code. That's everyone's choice of course (hell, I'm one of those people), but still, the real world hits you like a brick when you realize the almighty dollar rules all.
 

N.Domixis

Banned
I have applied to a second place an once again got interviewed. Seems like I can get interviews but I can't get the job because I probably suck at them.
 
I have applied to a second place an once again got interviewed. Seems like I can get interviews but I can't get the job because I probably suck at them.

Sometimes someone might have just had more experience or a better fit for other reasons, I wouldn't say it is automatically because of bad interview skills. Get used to it and most importantly keep applying no matter what.
 

scitek

Member
After 4 (four!) Phone interviews spanning a month, 3 of which were an hour long, and a sample project proving I can do the job, am I crazy for thinking it would take something disastrous happening during tomorrow's in-person interviews to not get an offer?
 

vainya

Neo Member
I have applied to a second place an once again got interviewed. Seems like I can get interviews but I can't get the job because I probably suck at them.

I have this problem too, I am qualified on paper and then never hear anything after an in person interview. Sometimes this can be because you are being profiled (As a minority I have been there) or someone is more experienced or they just decided not to hire you or anyone else (I've been there too).

Remember, the people interviewing you are people too. It comes with the territory and has nothing to do with your interviewing skills most of the time at least.
 

scitek

Member
The interviews went well, and they liked my trailer! The best thing is how easy the guy who would be my boss was talk to. We joked around a lot, and none of it was stressful. I was asked such hard-hitting questions as, "What was your process for making that trailer?", and, "What are your favorite movies?"



Now I wait.
 
The interviews went well, and they liked my trailer! The best thing is how easy the guy who would be my boss was talk to. We joked around a lot, and none of it was stressful. I was asked such hard-hitting questions as, "What was your process for making that trailer?", and, "What are your favorite movies?"



Now I wait.

What was your answer for favorite movies?
 

Rommel

Junior Member
If anyone is a software developer the company I just started working for can not hire them fast enough. I'm not a hiring manager but if your qualified for the position I could likely get it in front of one.

We are hiring in Utah and San Francisco.

A few of the job titles being hired...

Senior Software Architect
Senior Software Developer
Senior Software Engineer
Senior Technical Product Manager
Software Developer
Software Development Lead, Salesforce Applications
Software Tester
Principal UX Designer
Intern- Software Developer
Intern - Web UI Developer

And many more.

Shoot me a PM if you are interested and I'll send you the link to the careers site. Always up for helping a fellow Gaffer :)
 
So, I was just let go of my job as an RN at a busy unit at a big hospital. I only worked a month there. They told me wasn't a good fit for their unit. They say I am not being fired, and they'll give me another paycheck afterwards. Basically, I worked too slowly for them and needed too much help, and they needed nurses that were more independent.

Honestly, I wanted to quit there anyways. But it just so much more depressing when they do it for you.

Even more honestly, I have no idea what to do. The whole thing put a big damper in my plans for the future.

I still live with my parents, so there's that.
 

scitek

Member
Well, it appears the job posting has been removed from the company's site. There were 3 open positions, and I haven't been contacted yet, so I don't know what to make of that.

Edit: they didn't get back to me today, which I think could be a good sign. Better than being told no right away, at least!
 
Yes definitely be truthful, no need to lie because if anything showing that you created your own personal projects helps. It shows that you are passionate about what you do. I am not far away from what you do as well. I do UI/UX Design but also have worked with digital marketing designing email templates, ad banners,etc. Do you have an online portfolio by any chance and where are you located at if you don't mind me asking?

I've been in teams working closely with UI/UX designers in the past for mobile applications, no idea how you guys do what you do but I've picked up a bit of the language hah. I don't have an online portfolio at the moment, I don't have that much experience but I'll definitely make one in the future. I'm in London.

Welp, I totally bombed an interview today. I was so nervous I was choking on even the most basic of questions. I feel like a complete idiot.

I know that feel. It sucks. I had mine today and couldn't get a "feel" of the interviewer, they seemed so serious I couldn't really tell what they were thinking lol, made me more nervous than usual. Thing is, I prepared a ton but when I'm put on the spot I don't say everything I want to say? it frustrates me so much.
 

entremet

Member
So, I was just let go of my job as an RN at a busy unit at a big hospital. I only worked a month there. They told me wasn't a good fit for their unit. They say I am not being fired, and they'll give me another paycheck afterwards. Basically, I worked too slowly for them and needed too much help, and they needed nurses that were more independent.

Honestly, I wanted to quit there anyways. But it just so much more depressing when they do it for you.

Even more honestly, I have no idea what to do. The whole thing put a big damper in my plans for the future.

I still live with my parents, so there's that.
They are letting you save face, but that sounds like a termination.

If you're an RN it means you a very high demand job. You'll be fine. Dust yourself off and start applying. It seems they didn't care to train and onboard you properly. Was that your first nursing job?

Don't give into the doubts. Learn from it path experience and be better next time.
 
Hi guys,

In your experience is a long wait time after interview a good thing? I emailed the job to confirm I was still in the running and they said they wanted to finish the interview to assure final scoring - do companies typically score as they go or will they wait for all interviews to finish and then score them?
 
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